Augie Posted Wednesday at 03:39 PM Posted Wednesday at 03:39 PM 59 minutes ago, BigDingus said: And his current one cakes on a mountain of makeup & looks even more fake. We can all take on a variety of looks. I’ll try to be a little less superficial and say that Hailee came off as a very likable, genuine and funny person on that Hot Wings clip promoting her new movie. She is an actual person, not just some model on a poster in a teenage boy’s bedroom. But I guess that’s not a very hot take. 🤷♂️ Quote
JP51 Posted Wednesday at 03:56 PM Posted Wednesday at 03:56 PM (edited) 44 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I don’t know if this was already said or not but the Bills 4 SB appearances mostly happened not because the Bills were dominant but because the AFC was incredibly weak during that era I feel like this was a bit of both... but to your point there really was no one in the AFC that dominated like the Bills in those years... but there were a lot of pretenders... Raiders, Oilers, Dolphins, Chiefs, Broncos, none of them were epic teams.... Steelers were another good team but greatness not so much... Edited Wednesday at 03:57 PM by JP51 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted Wednesday at 04:10 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:10 PM 10 minutes ago, JP51 said: I feel like this was a bit of both... but to your point there really was no one in the AFC that dominated like the Bills in those years... but there were a lot of pretenders... Raiders, Oilers, Dolphins, Chiefs, Broncos, none of them were epic teams.... Steelers were another good team but greatness not so much... That’s what I’m saying though look at the Bills roster and they weren’t particularly strong on defensive line, and their secondary . The offensive line was solid but very finesse and when they went against big physical teams of the NFC they got smacked around. Kelly while beloved was a turnover machine at times. Their special teams were average with the exception of Steve Christie 1 Quote
DrBob806 Posted Wednesday at 04:28 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:28 PM (edited) My hot take is the Bills will struggle to win 10 games this season, but still win the crappy AFC East Edited Wednesday at 04:29 PM by DrBob806 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted Wednesday at 04:47 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:47 PM 1 hour ago, Augie said: We can all take on a variety of looks. I’ll try to be a little less superficial and say that Hailee came off as a very likable, genuine and funny person on that Hot Wings clip promoting her new movie. She is an actual person, not just some model on a poster in a teenage boy’s bedroom. But I guess that’s not a very hot take. 🤷♂️ Talented singer and actress wears makeup while promoting film... why is that critical? Lots of women wear makeup, especially so when they know they're going to be on camera. 1 Quote
Nihilarian Posted Wednesday at 05:08 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:08 PM 2 hours ago, Gregg said: Maybe the Giants game. The Redskins just physically kicked the Bills asses, and the Cowboys were the better team at that point. I don't think he would have gotten wins over the Redskins and Cowboys. So maybe 1-3 in those games. What many Bills fans didn't see was that in the AFC Championship game against Denver that year, the Bills won 10-7. So many Buffalo injuries to the Bills players were what caused them to look so bad in that SB. Heck, during that AFC game, the Bill's O line was so banged up that TE Pete Metzelaars was forced to play tackle because everyone else was out injured. Not to mention, I think that was the year that the NFL cut down the time between the Championship game and Super Bowl to one week. Not only that, Buffalo's defense was just terrible that season. The Bills defense ranked second-to-last in total yards given up as Bruce Smith missed most of the season due to injury. Plus, the Redskins were the better team by going 14-2 that year. Then, the jackass Buffalo assistant coach made fun of the Redskins "Hogs'' O line players. Bulletin Board material that caused Marv to fire him. A confluence of bad luck. 1 Quote
JP51 Posted Wednesday at 05:26 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:26 PM 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: That’s what I’m saying though look at the Bills roster and they weren’t particularly strong on defensive line, and their secondary . The offensive line was solid but very finesse and when they went against big physical teams of the NFC they got smacked around. Kelly while beloved was a turnover machine at times. Their special teams were average with the exception of Steve Christie Well I am not sure I totally agree... their nose tackle in Jeff Wright was weak for sure... but you did have one of the best Defensive lineman in the history of football on that line.... Dr Sack and Phil Hansen I wouldnt say were weak. As far as special teams... Steve Christie was clutch and you had maybe one of the best ST gunners in Steve Tasker the league has seen. But very much to your point their OL and NT were not built for the league at the time. Not at all... Quote
gonzo1105 Posted Wednesday at 05:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:35 PM 4 minutes ago, JP51 said: Well I am not sure I totally agree... their nose tackle in Jeff Wright was weak for sure... but you did have one of the best Defensive lineman in the history of football on that line.... Dr Sack and Phil Hansen I wouldnt say were weak. As far as special teams... Steve Christie was clutch and you had maybe one of the best ST gunners in Steve Tasker the league has seen. But very much to your point their OL and NT were not built for the league at the time. Not at all... Go look at Phil Hansens careers stats. He played 11 seasons for the Bills and had 61 sacks with Bruce Smith opposite of him. Yes they had Bruce but Hanson was way overrated and yes I realize they played a 3-4 but you would think a guy on the wall of fame would have put up better numbers. Christie wasn’t around until Super Bowl 3. Norwood was a declining kicker and Chris Mohr consistently had one of the worst net punt averages in the NFL year in and year out. Wright was awful. Losing was below average. Their LBs were very good. 1 Quote
KOKBILLS Posted Wednesday at 05:36 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:36 PM My hottest Bills take is simple... If they don't figure out a way to get a WR in this Draft that can be a legitimate field-stretching deep threat... I riot... There are multiple options, but some of these late Day 3 guys are not among them IMHO... My preference is Dont'e Thornton mainly because the upside is just crazy high with that dude... But there are plenty of others... Just don't give me a Justin Shorter-type and tell me it's going to be fine... Quote
The Jokeman Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM 41 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: My hottest Bills take is simple... If they don't figure out a way to get a WR in this Draft that can be a legitimate field-stretching deep threat... I riot... There are multiple options, but some of these late Day 3 guys are not among them IMHO... My preference is Dont'e Thornton mainly because the upside is just crazy high with that dude... But there are plenty of others... Just don't give me a Justin Shorter-type and tell me it's going to be fine... I get the appeal of Thornton but if we don't shore up NT, a second CB to start along Benford than having Thornton isn't going to move the needle to get us past KC in the playoffs. Quote
Gregg Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM 44 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: My hottest Bills take is simple... If they don't figure out a way to get a WR in this Draft that can be a legitimate field-stretching deep threat... I riot... There are multiple options, but some of these late Day 3 guys are not among them IMHO... My preference is Dont'e Thornton mainly because the upside is just crazy high with that dude... But there are plenty of others... Just don't give me a Justin Shorter-type and tell me it's going to be fine... Getting a WR who can stretch the field would definitely be nice and I do expect Beane to draft one but until they fix the defense they will never get to a Super Bowl much less win one. We see it year after year especially in the playoffs. The defense gets exposed by good offenses with good QB's Quote
JP51 Posted Wednesday at 06:40 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:40 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: Go look at Phil Hansens careers stats. He played 11 seasons for the Bills and had 61 sacks with Bruce Smith opposite of him. Yes they had Bruce but Hanson was way overrated and yes I realize they played a 3-4 but you would think a guy on the wall of fame would have put up better numbers. Christie wasn’t around until Super Bowl 3. Norwood was a declining kicker and Chris Mohr consistently had one of the worst net punt averages in the NFL year in and year out. Wright was awful. Losing was below average. Their LBs were very good. Wow, I love this... you know you are down the rabbit hole when you start debating which average punter was better with a 35 year gap in between them with both sides well aware of the particulars LOL Only in Buffalo... ... ok where I agree.... Chris Mohr and Martin were not world beaters... Nor was Phil Hansen... but as I said in my post... he had an 11 year career, I wouldnt call him 'weak"... he had limited talent but was effective and consistent... Jeff Wright... now that was an abominational weakness... Also, the 3-4 4-3 0r really 4-2 makes the comparisons more difficult.... Also agree Norwood was never an NFL caliber kicker and I blame the coaches for that... That being said... the Bills D in the Super Bowl years to me were clearly more talented and equipped than our current Defense... the coaching Walt Corey in particular was an abomination... If you cant take an HOF DE and 5 other pro bowlers and not finish better than dead last in defense its coaching... not that Babich is much better... I hope he develops.... but lets face it Walt didnt even get a similar job in the NFL when he was let go... Now if you are on the our Defense currently is more talented than Bruce, Biscuit,Conlan,Talley, Smith Odomes, Kazoo etc.. that is fine... I just dont agree... ST is probably close enough to being a non factor in terms of its impact... Norwood missing that FG was hard... but he was never capable of kicking over 42 yards consistently anyways... To me it was the coaching... our coaching in the Super Bowl years was vastly inferior to the questionable coaching McD teams... which is where this hot take all started LOL... Edited Wednesday at 06:42 PM by JP51 Quote
Jauronimo Posted Wednesday at 07:15 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:15 PM 3 hours ago, Augie said: We can all take on a variety of looks. I’ll try to be a little less superficial and say that Hailee came off as a very likable, genuine and funny person on that Hot Wings clip promoting her new movie. She is an actual person, not just some model on a poster in a teenage boy’s bedroom. But I guess that’s not a very hot take. 🤷♂️ There is nothing more entertaining than watching dudes dissect and scrutinize the appearances of two women who wouldn't even spit on them for less than $5k. Do not ruin this for me. 2 Quote
transient Posted Wednesday at 07:58 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:58 PM (edited) On 4/12/2025 at 4:02 PM, Einstein said: If a magical genie came to you tomorrow and said: I will grant a lifetime of winning the division, making the playoffs, and “contending” for a SB, but it’s guaranteed that you will never see a Bills Super Bowl win ever. Would you take that deal? So basically McDermott is going to coach the Bills for eternity, then? Edited Wednesday at 08:28 PM by transient 1 Quote
KOKBILLS Posted Wednesday at 08:23 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:23 PM 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I get the appeal of Thornton but if we don't shore up NT, a second CB to start along Benford than having Thornton isn't going to move the needle to get us past KC in the playoffs. I'm not saying to Draft a WR at the expense of the obvious Defensive help we need... Thornton is probably a late Day 2 prospect at best... The highest I've seen him on any board is around 120... Quote
KOKBILLS Posted Wednesday at 09:17 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:17 PM 2 hours ago, Gregg said: Getting a WR who can stretch the field would definitely be nice and I do expect Beane to draft one but until they fix the defense they will never get to a Super Bowl much less win one. We see it year after year especially in the playoffs. The defense gets exposed by good offenses with good QB's We have 10 picks... The guy I like best is ranked by almost everyone as a 4th or 5th Round pick though I think he's probably going to go by the end of Day 2... I really don't care if we Draft 9 Defensive players and only the one WR... But we need the one WR... I'm not sure why anyone assumed one hot take about wanting a speed WR meant I did not want the Defense addressed early and often in this Draft, especially because I was telling folks the Defense was not good enough right here in like week 5 last year... But anyway... 1 Quote
Nihilarian Posted Wednesday at 09:25 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:25 PM My hot take is that the 2025 Buffalo defense will be hard pressed to finish with the #1 ranking in turnover ratio again this season, like they did in 2024. The 2024 Buffalo defense finished 11th in points allowed, 17th in yards allowed, and would have won far fewer games if not for that unreal turnover ratio. Buffalo #29 in first downs allowed? Can that be right? This year's team is desperate for a solid defensive secondary. AFAIK, the team didn't even offer CB Douglas a contract, and they traded away backup CB Elam. Plus, they lack solid proper depth all over the defensive side. It seems like each and every year, the last few seasons, the Buffalo defense falls on its face at the end of the season due to injuries. All I can think of after watching the Philly Eagles demolish the KC Chiefs offense is that "defense wins Championships". Yes, the Eagles did score 40 points against that top ten "Spags" called KC defense. They went 15-2 in 2024 and were owned in that SB by Philly...a thing of beauty! The Buffalo Bills have ten draft picks in the 2025 NFL draft, and I'd be happy to see them spend them all on the defensive side if they could field a top-five defense this season. Quote
Gregg Posted Thursday at 12:37 PM Posted Thursday at 12:37 PM 15 hours ago, KOKBILLS said: We have 10 picks... The guy I like best is ranked by almost everyone as a 4th or 5th Round pick though I think he's probably going to go by the end of Day 2... I really don't care if we Draft 9 Defensive players and only the one WR... But we need the one WR... I'm not sure why anyone assumed one hot take about wanting a speed WR meant I did not want the Defense addressed early and often in this Draft, especially because I was telling folks the Defense was not good enough right here in like week 5 last year... But anyway... I agree with you. The Bills definitely need a WR who can stretch the field and cause problems for the opposing defense. Right now, the Bills don't really have that WR on the roster. As you mentioned fixing the defense has to be priority #1. 1 Quote
DJB Posted Thursday at 07:48 PM Posted Thursday at 07:48 PM Beane isn’t that great of a GM especially at the draft and if it wasn’t for Allen he likely would have been fired already Quote
eball Posted Thursday at 07:51 PM Posted Thursday at 07:51 PM 2 minutes ago, DJB said: Beane isn’t that great of a GM especially at the draft and if it wasn’t for Allen he likely would have been fired already That’s not a hot take, it’s what probably 50% of this board already thinks!!! 1 Quote
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