What’s your hottest Bills take?

[Cash]

10 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Just to recap, as I fought this fight. Warren Moon was better. Dan Marino would have won multiple Super Bowls with this team. Jim wasn't a leader, if he was he wouldn't have partied before the Super Bowls.

 

Yeah, you make a fair point there.  Definitely a ding against Kelly.  But in terms of leadership during the games themselves, I completely stand by my take that Kelly>Marino, at least during the 90s Super Bowl run.  I wasn't around for Marino's burst into the record books, but I was fully around for those Super Bowl years, and IMO Marino was fairly overrated during those years.  (And still really good, just not as good as the hype.)  Marino from that era wasn't insane like Latter Day Aaron Rodgers, but there were some similarities: phenomenally skilled passers, big egos, insisted on doing things their way, and averse to taking blame when things went wrong.

 

For me, probably the biggest anti-Kelly argument boils down to his playoff numbers.  I don't think I ever looked at them directly before they were posted in this thread, and yeah.  Even for the time, those are not great.

[Mikie2times]

20 minutes ago, Cash said:

 

Yeah, you make a fair point there.  Definitely a ding against Kelly.  But in terms of leadership during the games themselves, I completely stand by my take that Kelly>Marino, at least during the 90s Super Bowl run.  I wasn't around for Marino's burst into the record books, but I was fully around for those Super Bowl years, and IMO Marino was fairly overrated during those years.  (And still really good, just not as good as the hype.)  Marino from that era wasn't insane like Latter Day Aaron Rodgers, but there were some similarities: phenomenally skilled passers, big egos, insisted on doing things their way, and averse to taking blame when things went wrong.

 

For me, probably the biggest anti-Kelly argument boils down to his playoff numbers.  I don't think I ever looked at them directly before they were posted in this thread, and yeah.  Even for the time, those are not great.

I agree with all of this and everything you wrote in the other response. If everybody who ever partied and did the wrong thing at the wrong time is no longer capable of leadership we would be pretty directionless. If Norwood's kick or Thurman's fumble goes another way then we probably never even hear about this. Perhaps we laugh at it. Past the partying, look at his battle vs cancer. The dude is tough and resilient and that is exactly who he was on those teams. Those teams, above all else, were tough and resilient teams.

[RoyBatty is alive]

Every year after the draft the Bills PR machine ramps it up and I am CONVINCED ever year one player is destined for greatness, especially due to their work ethic.  Prime example was Kaiir Elam wanting to get on the playbook on his plane ride to Buffalo.  And this year, three time Duke captain Dewayne Carter who to date and shown nothing.  Sad to say the alleged basketball star Keon Coleman looks headed in the same path.

 

So again this year I will think it was the best draft ever only to get reality by mid-season.