What’s your hottest Bills take?

[chris heff]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

I heard it was gonna be in Batavia....

I heard Lancaster 

[Mikie2times]

10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Brandon Beane needs to do less retaining of Drafted players.

 

Guys like Dawson Knox, Terrel Bernard, Greg Rousseau, Ed Oliver, and Tyler Bass for example shouldn't have gotten second contracts - in my opinion.

 

Extensions save us a little in cap space in the moment, but never enough to do something major in the Free Agent and Trade market and prohibits our Cap Space in later years - preventing us from back loading contracts.

 

Before FA opened, everyone discussed the (often unrealistic) things they'd like to see us do. I pointed to the fact that Benford, Shakir, Cook, Rousseau, and Bernard's contracts were coming up and he'd want to do some of those. Multiple people said they shouldn't be a thought. Go all in on guys like DK Metcalf, Myles Garrett (who ended up not available), D.J. Reed, Milton Williams, Jevon Holland, etc. and worry about those guys later.

 

While I knew that wasn't realistic or what I'd do, even I didn't see us retaining 4 of that 5 and maybe all 5 when it's all said and done. To me, guys like Rousseau and Bernard could have been upgraded from or replaced with Draft Picks.

 

Long story short, it feels like far too often Beane is focusing on retaining good to pretty good players at the cost of going out and getting great players.

I agree with this. Not that those guys aren't good players, but by pulling the trigger on the extension you basically lock that position up for a very long time. So do these players meet a standard in which we shouldn't be looking to improve further? No. They don't. To me it's pretty obvious most are B level. Further, when we extend this early while we gain some cap savings, we also make decisions without all the information available. Like paying Knox #1 TE money not knowing we would draft a TE right around the corner. We extend Diggs not knowing he will go off the deep end and then get crushed by dead cap. For anybody that says the strategy Beane is using is "correct" they're completely full of crap. I don't know that it's incorrect either, but to come to any conclusion you would have to study the make up of all the NFL rosters and have some method of evaluating if acquisition via trade or FA leads to worse result.

 

Just look at the Eagles all pros from this year:

 

RB Saquon Barkley= Free Agent

LB Zack Baun = Free Agent

WR A.J. Brown = Trade

DT Jalen Carter = Draft

T Lane Johnson = Draft

T Jordan Mailata = Draft

 

Now does this tell us anything even remotely conclusive? Hell no. But to think our infatuation with internal signings somehow is correct is not right either. 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I agree with this. Not that those guys aren't good players, but by pulling the trigger on the extension you basically lock that position up for a very long time. So do these players meet a standard in which we shouldn't be looking to improve further? No. They don't. To me it's pretty obvious most are B level. Further, when we extend this early while we gain some cap savings, we also make decisions without all the information available. Like paying Knox #1 TE money not knowing we would draft a TE right around the corner. We extend Diggs not knowing he will go off the deep end and then get crushed by dead cap. For anybody that says the strategy Beane is using is "correct" they're completely full of crap. I don't know that it's incorrect either, but to come to any conclusion you would have to study the make up of all the NFL rosters and have some method of evaluating if acquisition via trade or FA leads to worse result.

 

Just look at the Eagles all pros from this year:

 

RB Saquon Barkley= Free Agent

LB Zack Baun = Free Agent

WR A.J. Brown = Trade

DT Jalen Carter = Draft

T Lane Johnson = Draft

T Jordan Mailata = Draft

 

Now does this tell us anything even remotely conclusive? Hell no. But to think our infatuation with internal signings somehow is correct is not right either. 

 

I honestly don't think it is strategy primarily that is wrong. I think it is talent evaluation. I just don't think the Bills are great at spotting who is a really good players vs who is a special player.

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I honestly don't think it is strategy primarily that is wrong. I think it is talent evaluation. I just don't think the Bills are great at spotting who is a really good players vs who is a special player.

I don't know that it's right and I don't know that its wrong. But it's fairly common for people around here to know and to know to a certainty. To me, it's way more complicated. 

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Fetou said:

No team will never win a championship with Pegula ownership. 

Love the optimism as both a Bills and Sabres fan.

[Thrivefourfive]

Kelly held his own. That wasn’t an easy locker room. Nobody ever questioned who the Bills quarterback was, and tried to kick him out the door and rebuild with a big draft day splash. He was used up when he retired, but it says a lot I think that the Bills were at home in the playoffs and a decent favorite for his very last game. The game as a mess and ended his career, but I think he gets some nice bonus points for that, and not having two abysmal seasons end his career, which seriously could’ve happened in Buffalo. We’ll see with how Josh’s career.. Jimbo was.. kinda George Washingtonesque doing is a favorite and walking away. We had one Todd Collins season and then were right back with Johnson/Flutie/Defense. 

[pennstate10]

Followed by 20 yrs wondering in the wilderness.

 

We weren't "right back" with Johnson/Flutie.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Love the optimism as both a Bills and Sabres fan.

 

Considering he/she used a double negative...

[Doc Brown]

14 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Considering he/she used a double negative...

Nothing gets by you Doc.

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Nothing gets by you Doc.

 

Wasn't sure it was sarcasm.

[Doc Brown]

Just now, Doc said:

 

Wasn't sure it was sarcasm.

It would be kind of crazy if they both won it the same year.  A parade in both February and June of 2026 sounds like a lot of fun.

[Doc]

57 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It would be kind of crazy if they both won it the same year.  A parade in both February and June of 2026 sounds like a lot of fun.

 

I'd be happy with the Sabres making the playoffs first...

[BillsPride12]

1 hour ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Kelly held his own. That wasn’t an easy locker room. Nobody ever questioned who the Bills quarterback was, and tried to kick him out the door and rebuild with a big draft day splash. He was used up when he retired, but it says a lot I think that the Bills were at home in the playoffs and a decent favorite for his very last game. The game as a mess and ended his career, but I think he gets some nice bonus points for that, and not having two abysmal seasons end his career, which seriously could’ve happened in Buffalo. We’ll see with how Josh’s career.. Jimbo was.. kinda George Washingtonesque doing is a favorite and walking away. We had one Todd Collins season and then were right back with Johnson/Flutie/Defense. 

Yeah I mean the Kelly is a bum takes are asinine.  If you want to argue he was "overrated" that's fair game because there are some Bills fan that probably do overrate his overall career but the people that act like he was just a guy surrounded by a talented team are nuts.  Kelly played a pivotal role in the success of those Super Bowl Bills teams and is a legit Hall of Famer and was a big star in the NFL in the late 80s and early 90s.  I think time and narrative causes people to get things twisted.  Now that Josh Allen has arrived and surpassed Jimbo some are going back only viewing Kelly's career in a negative light.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, dancing_joker said:

People who go to the airport to cheer on the bills after a loss are losers

 

People who judge people they have never met are losers.  

 

 

I mean, it’s not Charles Manson territory here. 

[BillsFanForever19]

4 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

He has deals lined up to move Cook and a mystery (valuable) player + draft capital this year and next

 

He has deals lined up? According to whom?

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I honestly don't think it is strategy primarily that is wrong. I think it is talent evaluation. I just don't think the Bills are great at spotting who is a really good players vs who is a special player.

 

Well said.

 

My thing isn't that he should let everyone walk. Just that he needs to be more judicious about the extensions he hands out. For every one to two that I would do, he does three or four. Cut back a little bit and he could afford to get better improvements and maybe someone who is a truly special player - as opposed to gambling on guys that he thinks can be more in our building than they've shown to be (like Palmer and Hoecht this year).

Edited Sunday at 10:06 PM by BillsFanForever19

[Fetou]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Considering he/she used a double negative...

Let fate take the wheel, or keyboard

[stevewin]

My timely hot non-Bills sports take is the Masters Butler cabin "ceremony" sucks.  Nothing drains the fun/excitement/celebration out of a just-happened championship win like that does

Edited Sunday at 11:48 PM by stevewin

[Thrivefourfive]

1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He has deals lined up? According to whom?

it’s a…. Hot Take.

 

am I not doing this right? I see posters getting all bent out of shape here 🤣 It’s a good thing, I guess, that we’re not all desensitized by Cowturd or Skip. I guess we’re dumb here too 🤣🤣

4 minutes ago, stevewin said:

My timely hot non-Bills sports take is the Masters Butler cabin "ceremony" sucks.  Nothing drains the fun/excitement/celebration out of a just-happened championship win like that does

They should let Live From present the Jacket. Nantz and the Chairman.. boooorrrriiiinnnggg

[BillsFanForever19]

13 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

it’s a…. Hot Take.

 

am I not doing this right? I see posters getting all bent out of shape here 🤣 It’s a good thing, I guess, that we’re not all desensitized by Cowturd or Skip. I guess we’re dumb here too 🤣🤣

They should let Live From present the Jacket. Nantz and the Chairman.. boooorrrriiiinnnggg

 

A Hot Take is a personal opinion. If you said "I think he'll trade Cook", that'd be a take. You stated flat out he has things lined up.