Bills player mentioned on a Joe Rogan podcast with Ron White.

[Coldfronts]

Ron was talking about how he got help with his drinking problems at an ayahuasca clinic somewhere in South America. It was staffed with professionals trained to handle people who have bad trips during the therapy. He mentioned—without naming names—a huge Bills player who had a rough trip and went totally off the rails. Wonder who it was?

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Edited yesterday at 01:33 PM by Coldfronts

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Coldfronts said:

Ron was talking about how he got help with his drinking problems at an ayahuasca clinic somewhere in South America. It was staffed with professionals trained to handle people who have bad trips during the therapy. He mentioned—without naming names—a huge Bills player who had a rough trip and went totally off the rails. Wonder who it was?

Skip to the 43:00 Mark

I'm pretty sure I've seen photos of Jordan Poyer on those retreats when he was with the Bills. 

[Dillenger4]

It was Von Miller. Poyer was therfe too with his Mom - but Miller was there and had a bad experience. Just google it dude... old news.

[colin]

Miller shoulda been travelling to medical clinics getting better peds and stem cells and the like for his knee.

 

Sad!

[Logic]

Ayahausca (and other hallucinogens) can have the tendency to either show you exactly who you are without pulling any punches, or shatter your ego and lay bare the trappings of materialism and one's cultivated identity, or both. For a guy with some domestic abuse allegations against him and with an ego and a cultivated identity as strong as Miller's, I could see things being...rather terrifying.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

56 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'm pretty sure I've seen photos of Jordan Poyer on those retreats when he was with the Bills. 

 

He still does them. His instagram is interesting. Not in bad way, just interesting sometimes.

[Royale with Cheese]

I once had a bad high where I was paranoid and thought I was peeing my pants all night.  I was freaking out that people were going to make fun of me so I kept going to the bathroom to clean up....dry each time.  It was crazy lol....I really did think I was peeing my pants.

[T.E.]

It still blows my mind that people take vacations to a different continent to use drugs that make you violently ill. I also think the supposed therapeutic aspects of ayahuasca are significantly played up by people who don't want to feel stupid for taking vacations to a different continent to use drugs that make you violently ill.

[Pete]

Just now, T.E. said:

It still blows my mind that people take vacations to a different continent to use drugs that make you violently ill. I also think the supposed therapeutic aspects of ayahuasca are significantly played up by people who don't want to feel stupid for taking vacations to a different continent to use drugs that make you violently ill.

It blows my mind that the “land of the free” does not offer these alternative medicine.  It’s a shame that you have to go to another country for that freedom.  People kick heroin, and/or they deal with all bad ***** in their subconscious, and get healed from the trip.  As a basic rule, the worst the experience, the more ***** the person is working out 

40 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

It was Von Miller. Poyer was therfe too with his Mom - but Miller was there and had a bad experience. Just google it dude... old news.

Interesting.  Is Von huge?  Ron White, and Rogan are big.  So when Ron referenced “huge Bills player” I was guessing OL or DL

[JP51]

I am in the "You can pour me some old whiskey river my friend but I'll never smoke weed with Willie again" crowd... just dont like the loss of control and paranoia that comes with that stuff... I get why people like it but it doesnt work for me... I would be one of those paranoid heart palpitating bad trip dudes...   

[Logic]

6 minutes ago, T.E. said:

It still blows my mind that people take vacations to a different continent to use drugs that make you violently ill. I also think the supposed therapeutic aspects of ayahuasca are significantly played up by people who don't want to feel stupid for taking vacations to a different continent to use drugs that make you violently ill.

Respectfully, have you taken ayahuasca?

[T.E.]

8 minutes ago, Logic said:

Respectfully, have you taken ayahuasca?

No. If ever take a trip to South America, I'm going to enjoy myself and have fun, not puke and sh*t my brains out in some hut in the middle of nowhere while having the worst trip imaginable.

[Logic]

1 minute ago, T.E. said:

No. If ever take a trip to South America, I'm going to enjoy myself and have fun, not puke and sh*t my brains out in some hut in the middle of nowhere while having the worst trip imaginable.

I will just say that, from my perspective, the language you're using to describe ayahausca ("drugs that make you violently ill", "supposed therapeutic aspects of ayahuasca are significantly played up by people who don't want to feel stupid") is quite dismissive of the substance without acknowledging its centuries of use, sacred status among indigenous peoples, well-demonstrated therapeutic benefits, and the fact that its primary psychoactive component -- DMT -- exists naturally within the brain anyway. Your words are also quite dismissive of the MANY people who have derived benefit from taking it.

Alas, its your prerogative to feel about it however you want. Just as its the prerogative of thousands of Americans to attempt to improve themselves mentally, emotionally, or spiritually by utilizing a powerful psychoactive substance with centuries of history behind it.

 

[BuffaloMatt]

SOOOOOOO.... how about that draft? Am I right? I miss football ....

[WotAGuy]

52 minutes ago, Logic said:

I will just say that, from my perspective, the language you're using to describe ayahausca ("drugs that make you violently ill", "supposed therapeutic aspects of ayahuasca are significantly played up by people who don't want to feel stupid") is quite dismissive of the substance without acknowledging its centuries of use, sacred status among indigenous peoples, well-demonstrated therapeutic benefits, and the fact that its primary psychoactive component -- DMT -- exists naturally within the brain anyway. Your words are also quite dismissive of the MANY people who have derived benefit from taking it.

Alas, its your prerogative to feel about it however you want. Just as its the prerogative of thousands of Americans to attempt to improve themselves mentally, emotionally, or spiritually by utilizing a powerful psychoactive substance with centuries of history behind it.

 

Tell me you can score me some without telling me you can score me some. 🤣

[Logic]

2 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Tell me you can score me some without telling me you can score me some. 🤣

Amazingly, it was the first psychedelic substance I ever tried.

In high school, before it was even a trendy South American healing retreat destination, back when it felt like it was only known to Terrence McKenna fans and frequenters of erowid.org.....I happened to know a guy who brewed it. He brought it to my house in a red solo cup with foil over the top of it. It tasted like sludgy vinegar death.

Suffice to say my 17 year old brain was NOT prepared for what hit me.

[TBBills Fan]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

Ayahausca (and other hallucinogens) can have the tendency to either show you exactly who you are without pulling any punches, or shatter your ego and lay bare the trappings of materialism and one's cultivated identity, or both. For a guy with some domestic abuse allegations against him and with an ego and a cultivated identity as strong as Miller's, I could see things being...rather terrifying.

Spoken like a man who has lifted the veil a time or two!

 

I'd go down the rabbit hole with you!

[MJS]

Zay Jones?

 

Edit: Oh, I see it was Von Miller.

Edited yesterday at 04:10 PM by MJS

[boyst]

2 hours ago, Logic said:

Ayahausca (and other hallucinogens) can have the tendency to either show you exactly who you are without pulling any punches, or shatter your ego and lay bare the trappings of materialism and one's cultivated identity, or both. For a guy with some domestic abuse allegations against him and with an ego and a cultivated identity as strong as Miller's, I could see things being...rather terrifying.

I have heard horror stories of Ayahuasca. A friend regularlymgoes because it benefits him. But he has told stories of bad bad things. He's an elite level mountain climber former special forces. The guy has a fierce chill calmness that I've never seen. He has ice in his veins and a sheer willpower beyond anyone else I've ever met. Ayahuasca to him takes him to a plane of complete peace. This is why I believe that he was elite for the SF (Seal and CIA detached) and climber. 

[JerseyBills]

I want to try it, I'm terrified but I've heard some unbelievable stories, I could use it rn