Bond out on bond

[RyanC883]

interesting the Bills were heavy on the guy prior to this: 

 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2025/04/11/isaiah-bond-arrest-warrant-may-change-interest-from-buffalo-bills/83044024007/

 

 

[Gugny]

21 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Sorry I missed the press release

The real Bob Chandler wouldn’t have dropped the ball like this. 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

19 hours ago, Gugny said:

Probably?

 

It’s a league full of thugs, rapists, sexual deviants and woman abusers. 
 

Our favorite team’s home stadium STILL celebrates a woman abuser/murderer. 
 

And that is even after an ownership change … AND a change to a female owner. 
 

It’s a scummy league from top to bottom. 
 

 

It's posts like this that make me so proud of you !

[BillsFanForever19]

5 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'm hopeful the Bills pick him up in the 5th

 

Keep hoping. Nobody's touching a guy with an official criminal charge of SA. Again, this isn't an accusation situation. This is a full blown, DA signing off on an arrest warrant for one of the most heinous acts a human can commit and for a charge that's notoriously hard to get a DA to sign off on. No team is going to put their support behind someone who has been formally charged with that kind of crime. No one would touch Araiza with a ten foot pole on the mere possibility that a criminal charge for that COULD come down. Bond HAS been criminally charged. That's game over. No team is going to attach their name and their brand behind someone like that. 

 

It's one thing to say "i've seen the accusations, but I believe he's innocent and it's unlikely he'll be charged". It's another to say "I believe that law enforcement and the district attorney have it wrong and we'll be behind him the whole way through the trial". Ain't no way. If you thought the PR was bad for us Drafting Araiza, that's nothing in comparison to having to explain why you Drafted someone who has been officially criminally charged. That kind of charge isn't coming down unless there's a serious case that they think is winnable. And on top of all of that, the league isn't going to let him see the field until the legal stuff has been cleared up. Which could take years.

 

Even if he paid off the accuser - the damage is already done with him being charged. Teams and the public know that there was enough there for charges to be filed. In comparison to a situation like Araiza where as bad as things looked, criminal charges were never filed.

Edited Friday at 10:06 PM by BillsFanForever19

[MikePJ76]

3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Keep hoping. Nobody's touching a guy with an official criminal charge of SA. Again, this isn't an accusation situation. This is a full blown, DA signing off on an arrest warrant for one of the most heinous acts a human can commit and for a charge that's notoriously hard to get a DA to sign off on. No team is going to put their support behind someone who has been formally charged with that kind of crime. No one would touch Araiza with a ten foot pole on the mere possibility that a criminal charge for that COULD come down. Bond HAS been criminally charged. That's game over. No team is going to attach their name and their brand behind someone like that. 

 

It's one thing to say "i've seen the accusations, but I believe he's innocent and it's unlikely he'll be charged". It's another to say "I believe that law enforcement and the district attorney have it wrong and we'll be behind him the whole way through the trial". Ain't no way. If you thought the PR was bad for us Drafting Araiza, that's nothing in comparison to having to explain why you Drafted someone who has been officially criminally charged. That kind of charge isn't coming down unless there's a serious case that they think is winnable. And on top of all of that, the league isn't going to let him see the field until the legal stuff has been cleared up. Which could take years.

 

Even if he paid off the accuser - the damage is already done with him being charged. Teams and the public know that there was enough there for charges to be filed. In comparison to a situation like Araiza where as bad as things looked, criminal charges were never filed.

Anyone who saw the police report and what the woman said would never draft this guy.

 

but someone will because someone always does

[MikePJ76]

6 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

What are these other allegations?  If this is something in addition to other allegations, that would be very damaging.  Like. I think could drop him to UDFA territory.  One arrest for a domestic indecent might not, but if it's a pattern, or escalating behavior, I think that would.  Even for KC.  

He wasn’t arrested for a domestic incident, he raped a girl he was trying to hook up with on Instagram, then after when she told him that was wrong and she said no he offered her a thousand dollars and asked her to sign an nda.

 

he held her down with his hand over her mouth and raped her while she was saying no.

[TheWeatherMan]

This guy has got “Chief” written all over him.  

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:

Anyone who saw the police report and what the woman said would never draft this guy.

 

but someone will because someone always does

 

Do they? When was the last time someone came into the Draft officially criminally charged with Rape? Again, we're not talking an allegation. We're talking about someone who was investigated and the DA proceeded with charges. I would be floored if anyone Drafted him. 

[Low Positive]

On 4/11/2025 at 10:31 PM, TheWeatherMan said:

This guy has got “Chief” written all over him.  

Chiefs? The Bengals took Joe Mixon when no one else would. They also signed Pac Man Jones AFTER the Vegas incident. They rostered Chris Henry until the end. They took Jermaine Burton in the last draft. Mike Brown views guys with criminal records as good "value." Bond will be a Cincinnati Bengal. I would put money on that. 

Edited yesterday at 06:56 PM by Low Positive
Chris Henry, not Chris Jones.

[GASabresIUFan]

11 hours ago, Prospector said:

How in the world did they pass up on Henry Ruggs?!

He'll be up for parole in 2026.  Maybe KC can fix that oversight then.

[eball]

19 hours ago, Gugny said:

I have never hid from the hypocrisy of it. 
 

It’s an entertainment league. It entertains me. 
 

Hollywood is also full of scum and most of us still watch movies/TV. 

 

Looking past horrible behavior is just what our society has taught us … especially if it entertains us. 
 

🤷‍♂️

So…should we take back all awards and recognition of any significant accomplishment in the sporting world (or otherwise) if the recipient later commits a crime or does something horrible, even when that bad act has nothing to do with the award or accomplishment?

 

It seems like that’s what you’re suggesting. If the Bills went and took OJ’s name down from their ring of fame it would only draw more attention to it.  His sports achievements are what they are (which is legendary).

 

It was a huge mistake the way MLB treated Pete Rose, and because of that treatment the story lived on for much longer get than it ever should have. 
 

I’m not comparing gambling with murder but there are some parallels. 
 

[Doc Brown]

20 minutes ago, eball said:

It seems like that’s what you’re suggesting. If the Bills went and took OJ’s name down from their ring of fame it would only draw more attention to it.  His sports achievements are what they are (which is legendary).

Let it draw more attention.  It's the right thing to do.  

 

3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Do they? When was the last time someone came into the Draft officially criminally charged with Rape? Again, we're not talking an allegation. We're talking about someone who was investigated and the DA proceeded with charges. I would be floored if anyone Drafted him. 

Where was it reported the DA proceeded with charges?  You only need a judge to sign off on an arrest warrant I thought.

Edited Saturday at 06:19 AM by Doc Brown

[Doc Brown]

On 4/10/2025 at 8:10 PM, Gugny said:

Does anyone really think this matters to one GM in the NFL?  

Of course it did.  At least all the one's who had interest in him.  Breathing a sigh of relief now that this happened before the draft.

[BillsFanForever19]

40 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Let it draw more attention.  It's the right thing to do.  

 

Where was it reported the DA proceeded with charges?  You only need a judge to sign off on an arrest warrant I thought.

 

If there's a warrant out for you and you've needed to post bond - you've been charged.

 

Though you're right, a DA could step in and not pursue the charges. But if he turned himself in, that means they investigated and saw enough there to arrest him and charge him.

 

Cops aren't going to go through the process of going to a Judge for a warrant and the Judge isn't going to sign off on the warrant unless there's evidence.

 

Either way, as opposed to most allegations that you see with athletes - this one is a criminal charge by Police.

Edited Saturday at 06:48 AM by BillsFanForever19

[Doc Brown]

9 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Keep hoping. Nobody's touching a guy with an official criminal charge of SA. Again, this isn't an accusation situation. This is a full blown, DA signing off on an arrest warrant for one of the most heinous acts a human can commit and for a charge that's notoriously hard to get a DA to sign off on. 

 

23 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

If there's a warrant out for you and you've needed to post bond - you've been charged.

 

Though you're right, a DA could step in and not pursue the charges. But if he turned himself in, that means they investigated and saw enough there to arrest him and charge him.

 

Cops aren't going to go through the process of going to a Judge for a warrant and the Judge isn't going to sign off on the warrant unless there's evidence.

 

Either way, as opposed to most allegations that you see with athletes - this one is a criminal charge by Police.

These two things don't align then as the DA doesn't have to sign off on an arrest warrant.  A judge can issue an arrest warrant with probable cause.

[BillsFanForever19]

56 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

 

These two things don't align then as the DA doesn't have to sign off on an arrest warrant.  A judge can issue an arrest warrant with probable cause.

 

Yes, I did say you were right - didn't I?

 

When it comes to this kind of charge though, it's highly unlikely the Police see enough to pursue a warrant and a Judge signs off on it and the DA doesn't go forward. Especially since the cops met her at the hospital where she was being checked. They have messages from him apologizing for what he did, saying "alcohol makes me do things", messages of him asking her to sign an NDA and offering her money that she refused. No way it doesn't go forward.

 

Usually, an allegation comes out, it's investigated and then it's announced there will be no criminal charges. It's clear the Police investigated, pursued a warrant, and charged him. That wouldn't happen without evidence - that they have.

 

That makes this a much bigger deal than even Araiza's was. And we all know how that went. Even after being released, not a single team in the league would touch him until there was no doubt that he wouldn't be arrested for that kind of charge. That's already happened for Bond.

Edited Saturday at 08:25 AM by BillsFanForever19

[Doc Brown]

50 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Yes, I did say you were right - didn't I?

 

When it comes to this kind of charge though, it's highly unlikely the Police see enough to pursue a warrant and a Judge signs off on it and the DA doesn't go forward. Especially since the cops met her at the hospital where she was being checked. They have messages from him apologizing for what he did, saying "alcohol makes me do things", messages of him asking her to sign an NDA and offering her money that she refused. No way it doesn't go forward.

 

Usually, an allegation comes out, it's investigated and then it's announced there will be no criminal charges. It's clear the Police investigated, pursued a warrant, and charged him. That wouldn't happen without evidence - that they have.

 

That makes this a much bigger deal than even Araiza's was. And we all know how that went. Even after being released, not a single team in the league would touch him until there was no doubt that he wouldn't be arrested for that kind of charge. That's already happened for Bond.

You confused me more.  Lol.  Got you now though.  I know that less evidence is required for an arrest before the district attorney decides whether there's enough evidence for the case to possibly go to trial.  This is especially true of rape cases.  I do agree though that his arrest alone will pry prevent him from being drafted.

[eball]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Let it draw more attention.  It's the right thing to do.  

if you’re living your life in a puritan manner and taking this stand without hypocrisy, more power to you. 
 

I guess we shouldn’t call Michael Jackson the King of Pop or recognize his musical talent and contributions to music either. 
 

[Gugny]

7 hours ago, eball said:

So…should we take back all awards and recognition of any significant accomplishment in the sporting world (or otherwise) if the recipient later commits a crime or does something horrible, even when that bad act has nothing to do with the award or accomplishment?

 

It seems like that’s what you’re suggesting. If the Bills went and took OJ’s name down from their ring of fame it would only draw more attention to it.  His sports achievements are what they are (which is legendary).

 

It was a huge mistake the way MLB treated Pete Rose, and because of that treatment the story lived on for much longer get than it ever should have. 
 

I’m not comparing gambling with murder but there are some parallels. 
 

Comparing gambling on a game to ending two people’s lives is kind of silly. 
 

I am not comparing the OJ Simpson topic to any other athlete in any other sport. 
 

I am also not suggesting that the NFL/HOF remove him from the Hall or erase him from any record books. 
 

This is specific to the Buffalo Bill and their stadium. 
 

Ralph Wilson failed. 
The Pegulas have failed. 
 

That’s all I’m saying. 
 

Inwill never feel differently about it. 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, eball said:

if you’re living your life in a puritan manner and taking this stand without hypocrisy, more power to you. 
 

I guess we shouldn’t call Michael Jackson the King of Pop or recognize his musical talent and contributions to music either. 
 

No.  My motivation is more selfish for removing OJ's name from the Wall of Fame when we switch stadiums.  I'm sick of the debate.