harmonkillebrew Posted Thursday at 02:25 PM Posted Thursday at 02:25 PM Addresses two needs at once. We're the perfect team to employ him full-time at CB and as a complementary piece at WR. If he drops past Cleveland, what would it take? 1st, both 2nds, next years 1st? I don't think Beane would ever pull off this kind of move, but fun to think about. 2 5 1 1 14 2 Quote
Gregg Posted Thursday at 02:32 PM Posted Thursday at 02:32 PM He is probably going to go in the top 5. Beane won't be able to trade that high up. If a player falls on the board that Beane likes then maybe he can move into the low 20's, but I doubt much more than that. 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted Thursday at 02:34 PM Posted Thursday at 02:34 PM I don't think he would make it past 4 (NE) Giants pick at 3 is worth 2200 Pats* pick at 4 is worth 1800 So to get to 3 from 30 (620 points) would probably take 1, both 2, next years one and maybe a 4 or 5th? That seems like a lot for a CB I'd consider a move like that for a guy like Carter but to give up that much for a CB/WR is wayy to much IMO. 1 Quote
Augie Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Well, one advantage would be we wouldn’t have to spend much time worrying about the draft for the next couple years. 🤷♂️ 2 1 6 Quote
Logic Posted Thursday at 02:40 PM Posted Thursday at 02:40 PM As much as I'd love to add an elite WR1 who could also play key 3rd downs at corner... I don't think there's any universe where the Bills have the ammo or desire or ability to trade from 30 all the way up to 3. It seems ESPECIALLY ill-advised given their additional needs on the DL, at CB, and S. If I thought it could reasonably be accomplished, I'd be all for it, but I just can't imagine it being done, nor can I imagine Beane even considering it. 1 2 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted Thursday at 02:49 PM Posted Thursday at 02:49 PM man the offseason is slow 3 1 1 1 Quote
JP51 Posted Thursday at 02:51 PM Posted Thursday at 02:51 PM 9 minutes ago, Logic said: As much as I'd love to add an elite WR1 who could also play key 3rd downs at corner... I don't think there's any universe where the Bills have the ammo or desire or ability to trade from 30 all the way up to 3. It seems ESPECIALLY ill-advised given their additional needs on the DL, at CB, and S. If I thought it could reasonably be accomplished, I'd be all for it, but I just can't imagine it being done, nor can I imagine Beane even considering it. Nice notion, but we moved up about the same amount for Allen... and that cost was big, I cannot see doing it for a cb/Wr especially with our needs.. the cost of failure would be astronomical... 1 Quote
wppete Posted Thursday at 02:53 PM Posted Thursday at 02:53 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: man the offseason is slow Its getting nuts!!! We are a couple of weeks away. Like clock work every year, the madness kicks in at the beginning of April. Edited Thursday at 02:55 PM by wppete Quote
nosejob Posted Thursday at 02:58 PM Posted Thursday at 02:58 PM Trade up for Travis Hunter? Someone is a day drinker. Sounds like a cry for help.... 2 1 1 Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted Thursday at 03:02 PM Posted Thursday at 03:02 PM We don’t have enough draft capital to get to pick 2. Would have to get somebody like Dallas to trade us pick 12 first Cook and pick 30. Then with pick 12 we’d have to package both our 2nd rounders and next years 1st. Ask it’d be Cook, pick 30, pick 56, pick 62 and next years 1st. Not worth it for a non-QB no matter how good he is. Quote
SoTier Posted Thursday at 03:26 PM Posted Thursday at 03:26 PM (edited) 36 minutes ago, JP51 said: Nice notion, but we moved up about the same amount for Allen... and that cost was big, I cannot see doing it for a cb/Wr especially with our needs.. the cost of failure would be astronomical... The Bills first rounder in 2018 was #12, which gave them about twice the trade value points than they have at #30. They gave up #12 plus #53 and #56 to move up to #7. That's 5 spots. The Bills would be moving up about 25 spots. Not realistic. Hunter is likely to go in the top five, which is about 200 or more trade value points higher than #7. The Bills would have to give up their 2025 first and both seconds plus their 2026 first plus possibly other picks or players. I don't think that Hunter is worth nearly that much. I'm not sure that even Abdul Carter is worth that much draft capital. Edited Thursday at 03:27 PM by SoTier 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted Thursday at 03:30 PM Posted Thursday at 03:30 PM 3 minutes ago, SoTier said: The Bills first rounder in 2018 was #12, which gave them about twice the trade value points than they have at #30. They gave up #12 plus #53 and #56 to move up to #7. That's 5 spots. The Bills would be moving up about 25 spots. Not realistic. Hunter is likely to go in the top five, which is about 200 or more trade value points higher than #7. The Bills would have to give up their 2025 first and both seconds plus their 2026 first plus possibly other picks or players. I don't think that Hunter is worth nearly that much. I'm not sure that even Abdul Carter is worth that much draft capital. The Bills started at 21. They traded up to 12 with Cincinnati before the draft. 1 Quote
US Egg Posted Thursday at 03:35 PM Posted Thursday at 03:35 PM 1 hour ago, harmonkillebrew said: I don't think Beane would ever pull off this kind of move, but fun to think about. 4 Quote
JP51 Posted Thursday at 03:36 PM Posted Thursday at 03:36 PM (edited) 29 minutes ago, SoTier said: The Bills first rounder in 2018 was #12, which gave them about twice the trade value points than they have at #30. They gave up #12 plus #53 and #56 to move up to #7. That's 5 spots. Hunter is likely to go in the top five, which is about 200 or more trade value points higher than #7. The Bills would have to give up their 2025 first and both seconds plus their 2026 first plus possibly other picks or players. I don't think that Hunter is worth nearly that much. I'm not sure that even Abdul Carter is worth that much draft capital. Bills moved from 21 to 7 so 14 spots... Trade 21 with the Bengals that sent Cordy Glenn over to Cinci to move to 12 then 2 second round picks to move from 12 to 7. This move from 30 to say 5 (25 SPOTS) would cost much much more than a starting tackle and 2 2nd rders. But in the end we are saying the same thing I think... just an immense amount of capital to move up for one play... no way I am doing this Edited Thursday at 03:56 PM by JP51 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted Thursday at 03:39 PM Posted Thursday at 03:39 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, harmonkillebrew said: Addresses two needs at once. We're the perfect team to employ him full-time at CB and as a complementary piece at WR. If he drops past Cleveland, what would it take? 1st, both 2nds, next years 1st? I don't think Beane would ever pull off this kind of move, but fun to think about. You would have to trade the equivalent of "Josh Allen" to get him...in other words, the kind of draft package that would be for a major QB move. To get what? A WR for a team that runs an offense that isn't going to feature a feed the ball Alpha receiver? Or a CB in a draft where there will be very good DB prospects gettable at or near our pick without giving up a bounty? No disrespect bud, but there isn't anything about this that makes sense. In fact, if the Bills were going to gut their draft capital this year and next at the very least, Abdul Carter would be a more logical target, and even then it would cost so much that its still not realistic. So I would mark this down as essentially impossible. Edited Thursday at 03:42 PM by Alphadawg7 1 1 Quote
We Billieve #1 Posted Thursday at 03:41 PM Posted Thursday at 03:41 PM 1 hour ago, harmonkillebrew said: Addresses two needs at once. We're the perfect team to employ him full-time at CB and as a complementary piece at WR. If he drops past Cleveland, what would it take? 1st, both 2nds, next years 1st? I don't think Beane would ever pull off this kind of move, but fun to think about. That's giving up way too much... D-line help is a priority, then CB, the WR... The Bills have 3 picks in the top 62, there's no way Beane is giving up that much draft capitol for one player. Quote
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