Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted Wednesday at 03:26 PM Posted Wednesday at 03:26 PM This means it will be more expensive to finance a house as mortgage rates increase, credit card rates, too This is not going to end well. Enjoy the prosperity while you can Yup 2
sherpa Posted Wednesday at 09:39 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:39 PM 6 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: This means it will be more expensive to finance a house as mortgage rates increase, credit card rates, too This is not going to end well. Enjoy the prosperity while you can Yup Pure nonsense, as always. The bond market, also known as the fixed income market is just fine. 1 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Wednesday at 09:42 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:42 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, sherpa said: Pure nonsense, as always. The bond market, also known as the fixed income market is just fine. When was the last time a 30 year T bill promised 5%? Make a case as to why it's nonsense. You're clearly interested. Can't make that excuse. Gasparino is Fox senior business reporter. Not exactly a liberal. https://www.mediaite.com/news/foxs-gasparino-argues-trump-didnt-outsmart-the-world-and-tariff-drop-was-forced-by-bond-selloff-those-markets-were-imploding-last-night/ Edited Wednesday at 09:46 PM by Joe Ferguson forever 1
4th&long Posted Wednesday at 09:55 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:55 PM 13 minutes ago, sherpa said: Pure nonsense, as always. The bond market, also known as the fixed income market is just fine. 2
The Frankish Reich Posted Wednesday at 10:00 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:00 PM Bessent was freaking out, coming out every morning to try to sell calm while the financial world around him was descending into chaos. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Wednesday at 10:02 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:02 PM He changed his mind. Wasn't gonna work for him
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Wednesday at 11:00 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:00 PM I doubt the maga's will read this far on the fox reporter piece e but holy shite. This is some of what he said. the rest is as bed. If you have a mass sale of bonds, that means people are losing confidence in the US economy, on the ability to do deals with us; and from what I understand, this is what forced the hand of this 90-day reprieve. Now, is it a good thing? Are people coming to the table? Yeah, but if, you know, if you read between the lines and not even what what Scott Bessent said, we have no deals, right? There’s nobody that is really there saying, “This is what we’re gonna do,” and they paused it anyway. So, my thing is, well, I’ll give you this: there is some “Art of the Deal” here. And, by the way, brilliant move by putting China in the corner, but that’s a whole separate thing because remember, that’s a very difficult negotiation. Everybody else is a lot easier. They do want to deal with us — whether they want to be, you know, forced into really bad trade deals on their end is a whole other negotiating story 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Wednesday at 11:03 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:03 PM (edited) 1 minute ago, Westside said: So much rage!!! 👆 regret that much of America is stupid? you bet. Edited Wednesday at 11:04 PM by Joe Ferguson forever
daz28 Posted Wednesday at 11:29 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:29 PM 20 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I doubt the maga's will read this far on the fox reporter piece e but holy shite. This is some of what he said. the rest is as bed. If you have a mass sale of bonds, that means people are losing confidence in the US economy, on the ability to do deals with us; and from what I understand, this is what forced the hand of this 90-day reprieve. Now, is it a good thing? Are people coming to the table? Yeah, but if, you know, if you read between the lines and not even what what Scott Bessent said, we have no deals, right? There’s nobody that is really there saying, “This is what we’re gonna do,” and they paused it anyway. So, my thing is, well, I’ll give you this: there is some “Art of the Deal” here. And, by the way, brilliant move by putting China in the corner, but that’s a whole separate thing because remember, that’s a very difficult negotiation. Everybody else is a lot easier. They do want to deal with us — whether they want to be, you know, forced into really bad trade deals on their end is a whole other negotiating story Any "deal" they make is worth the same as the "peace in our time" pact. The guy ripped up HIS OWN trade deal with Canada and Mexico(USMCA). His own words on USMCA after signing it: Trump praised the USMCA in 2020 as the “best agreement we’ve ever made” "I will say that we just ended a nightmare known as NAFTA. (Applause.) They took our — they took our jobs for a long time. They took it for a long time. And we now have a brand-new U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement. It’s a whole different ballgame, and it’s going to be great for this plant. It’s going to be incredible for Michigan and for every place else in our country. The USMCA is the fairest, most balanced, and beneficial trade agreement we have ever signed into law. It’s the best agreement we’ve ever made, and we have others coming. And, by the way, the China deal, two weeks ago, was just signed. And that’s going to bring $250 billion into our country." Then in February of this year: “I mean, who can blame them if they made these great deals with the United States, took advantage of the United States on manufacturing?” Trump said Monday. “On just about anything, every aspect you can imagine, they took advantage.” He continued, “I look at some of these agreements, I’d read them at night, and I’d say, ‘Who would ever sign a thing like this?’ So the tariffs will go forward, yes, and we’re gonna make up a lot of territory. All we want is reciprocal. We want reciprocity.” Who would ever sign anything like that? Uh, you did El Presidente. ....but Biden is senile. 1 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted Wednesday at 11:34 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 11:34 PM 1 hour ago, sherpa said: Pure nonsense, as always. The bond market, also known as the fixed income market is just fine. 2
daz28 Posted Wednesday at 11:46 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:46 PM 11 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: To think I used to like Joe and Maria.
sherpa Posted Wednesday at 11:55 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:55 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: When was the last time a 30 year T bill promised 5%? Make a case as to why it's nonsense. You're clearly interested. Can't make that excuse. Gasparino is Fox senior business reporter. Not exactly a liberal. https://www.mediaite.com/news/foxs-gasparino-argues-trump-didnt-outsmart-the-world-and-tariff-drop-was-forced-by-bond-selloff-those-markets-were-imploding-last-night/ False premise, as always. Your link suggests nothing of a 5% 30 gov bill. By the way, I'm not sure you are familiar with this subject, but you posted it. You might want to educate yourself on the difference between a bill and a bond. Show me a 30 year fixed yield of a reasonable provider, (not junk), let alone the US gov, that is 5% per your claim. I'd buy it today. Edited Thursday at 12:12 AM by sherpa 1
4th&long Posted Thursday at 12:24 AM Posted Thursday at 12:24 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, sherpa said: Pure nonsense, as always. The bond market, also known as the fixed income market is just fine. All the news channels including fox News are talking about the bond markets and this ass hat comes in here with this take. He's not a pilot and definitely not a wine maker. I can't believe people feel for his *****. This mother ***** is almost as bad as billsrednecknc. Edited Thursday at 12:25 AM by 4th&long
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Thursday at 02:34 AM Posted Thursday at 02:34 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, sherpa said: False premise, as always. Your link suggests nothing of a 5% 30 gov bill. By the way, I'm not sure you are familiar with this subject, but you posted it. You might want to educate yourself on the difference between a bill and a bond. Show me a 30 year fixed yield of a reasonable provider, (not junk), let alone the US gov, that is 5% per your claim. I'd buy it today. it's 4.72 right now dude. pull the trigger. you are so full of shite. it hit 5 overnight before trump balked. https://ycharts.com/indicators/30_year_treasury_rate here's a helpful site for you to invest https://www.treasurydirect.gov/marketable-securities/treasury-bonds/ bill vs bond. educate me "captain" https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/033115/what-are-differences-between-treasury-bond-and-treasury-note-and-treasury-bill-tbill.asp Edited Thursday at 03:05 AM by Joe Ferguson forever
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Thursday at 02:53 AM Posted Thursday at 02:53 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: She's so much smarter than these rubes. Prophets are rarely appreciated or recognized. It's in the bible. Perhaps one of the maga fanatics here can quote chapter and verse. Edited Thursday at 02:59 AM by Joe Ferguson forever
Big Blitz Posted Thursday at 03:07 AM Posted Thursday at 03:07 AM 13 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: She's so much smarter than these rubes. Prophets are rarely appreciated or recognized. It's in the bible. Perhaps one of the maga fanatics here can quote chapter and verse. Sure thing. Yes. Yes it is.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Thursday at 03:12 AM Posted Thursday at 03:12 AM Just now, Big Blitz said: Sure thing. uh huh. Strategic tariffs. Not 10% around the globe, 25% on cars. 100+ % and growing on China. You're an idiot. I'd much rather her doing the dealing than your moronic, obese, mentally ill (narcissistic personality disorder) cult leader. He's not winning. He showed today that he's losing. If you can't see that, good luck winning personally. 3 hours ago, daz28 said: Any "deal" they make is worth the same as the "peace in our time" pact. The guy ripped up HIS OWN trade deal with Canada and Mexico(USMCA). His own words on USMCA after signing it: Trump praised the USMCA in 2020 as the “best agreement we’ve ever made” "I will say that we just ended a nightmare known as NAFTA. (Applause.) They took our — they took our jobs for a long time. They took it for a long time. And we now have a brand-new U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement. It’s a whole different ballgame, and it’s going to be great for this plant. It’s going to be incredible for Michigan and for every place else in our country. The USMCA is the fairest, most balanced, and beneficial trade agreement we have ever signed into law. It’s the best agreement we’ve ever made, and we have others coming. And, by the way, the China deal, two weeks ago, was just signed. And that’s going to bring $250 billion into our country." Then in February of this year: “I mean, who can blame them if they made these great deals with the United States, took advantage of the United States on manufacturing?” Trump said Monday. “On just about anything, every aspect you can imagine, they took advantage.” He continued, “I look at some of these agreements, I’d read them at night, and I’d say, ‘Who would ever sign a thing like this?’ So the tariffs will go forward, yes, and we’re gonna make up a lot of territory. All we want is reciprocal. We want reciprocity.” Who would ever sign anything like that? Uh, you did El Presidente. ....but Biden is senile. No man. He's just a liar. He's good enough at it that idiots on this board believe and defend him.
Big Blitz Posted Thursday at 03:19 AM Posted Thursday at 03:19 AM 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: uh huh. Strategic tariffs. Not 10% around the globe, 25% on cars. 100+ % and growing on China. You're an idiot. I'd much rather her doing the dealing than your moronic, obese, mentally ill (narcissistic personality disorder) cult leader. He's not winning. He showed today that he's losing. If you can't see that, good luck winning personally. No man. He's just a liar. He's good enough at it that idiots on this board believe and defend him. When it’s solely about politics and power not the American people…. Your former party of the working man. It’s now the party of college “educated” women and the CCP.
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