GunnerBill Posted Friday at 03:32 PM Posted Friday at 03:32 PM 4 minutes ago, LEBills said: You are a bigger fan of Barron than I. But if it was true the Bills wanted McDuffie and got jumped by the Chiefs, that would have shown a willingness to take a guy outside their usual type. Yea my intel is the Bills were not taking McDuffie. 1 Quote
LEBills Posted Friday at 03:39 PM Posted Friday at 03:39 PM (edited) 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea my intel is the Bills were not taking McDuffie. well that’s a bit more disappointing that Elam was always the guy lol Edited Friday at 03:39 PM by LEBills 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Friday at 03:46 PM Posted Friday at 03:46 PM (edited) 14 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Agreed. I am guessing if they trade up it's probably for Golden. IMO, if they stay put, they are taking a corner. Actually a trade up for Golden if he makes the Rams pick costs our first fourth and our last 6th. I'd be in on that. I think in real life might cost a 4th and a 5th but by the chart a 4th and our final pick of the draft late 6th does it. Edited Friday at 03:46 PM by GunnerBill 2 Quote
Motorin' Posted Friday at 03:46 PM Posted Friday at 03:46 PM 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea my intel is the Bills were not taking McDuffie. I was a lot higher on Kyler Gordon then Elam. And it's a shame Beane traded up. So many starting CB's came out of rounds 2-4 in that draft. 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Friday at 03:49 PM Posted Friday at 03:49 PM Just now, Motorin' said: I was a lot higher on Kyler Gordon then Elam. And it's a shame Beane traded up. So many starting CB's came out of rounds 2-4 in that draft. So was I. I was higher on Gordon even than McDuffie and while McDuffie is an outstanding player, Gordon has developed into a stud himself. I had Elam as CB7. 2 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted Friday at 04:04 PM Posted Friday at 04:04 PM 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea my intel is the Bills were not taking McDuffie. Mine too. They liked him but saw him as more of a slot in their scheme. 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted Friday at 04:19 PM Posted Friday at 04:19 PM 38 minutes ago, LEBills said: well that’s a bit more disappointing that Elam was always the guy lol It kinda makes it better that, if true Elam was our guy, that KC in fact, did not "jump us." But jeez, what a scouting fail if Elam was their guy all along. Quote
H2o Posted Friday at 04:26 PM Posted Friday at 04:26 PM 43 minutes ago, LEBills said: well that’s a bit more disappointing that Elam was always the guy lol 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: It kinda makes it better that, if true Elam was our guy, that KC in fact, did not "jump us." But jeez, what a scouting fail if Elam was their guy all along. Yeah, it seems the Bills draft more on traits and a certain profile than they do the tape. If this is the case, and we're looking to go CB early, don't be surprised if our pick is Darien Porter of Iowa St. 1 Quote
CNYfan Posted Friday at 04:51 PM Posted Friday at 04:51 PM With the 19th Pick in the TSW Second Mock Draft The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Jadhae Barron CB Texas Strong, good size, good eyes, good read and react, assignment obedient and rarely out of position, good feel for zone. Thought about the saftey from SC to pair with Winfield, Jr for a super duo but went with the high floor rather than the ceiling risk. The Denver Broncos @LEBills are on the clock 5 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted Friday at 05:04 PM Posted Friday at 05:04 PM 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: So was I. I was higher on Gordon even than McDuffie and while McDuffie is an outstanding player, Gordon has developed into a stud himself. I had Elam as CB7. I was obviously unhappy with trading up for a first round corner, but I had seen Elam play against a superb Alabama team and he looked like a great player. I really thought that he would be a star on the Bills and have no idea what happened. 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted Friday at 05:12 PM Posted Friday at 05:12 PM 5 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I was obviously unhappy with trading up for a first round corner, but I had seen Elam play against a superb Alabama team and he looked like a great player. I really thought that he would be a star on the Bills and have no idea what happened. I think once he got beat out by Christian Benford, his career in Buffalo was over. It's hard to overcome being the chosen one the team traded up in the first to get and get beat out by a 6th round pick from Villanova. It's the old Heath Shuler-Gus Ferrotte situation. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted Friday at 05:17 PM Posted Friday at 05:17 PM 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think once he got beat out by Christian Benford, his career in Buffalo was over. It's hard to overcome being the chosen one the team traded up in the first to get and get beat out by a 6th round pick from Villanova. It's the old Heath Shuler-Gus Ferrotte situation. He was good his sophomore season and took a big step back in his junior year. He was always grabby, even in man coverage but you can get away with that more in college. He was drafted on his traits and the ability for him to learn the Bills system. He failed to do so 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Friday at 05:35 PM Posted Friday at 05:35 PM 28 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I was obviously unhappy with trading up for a first round corner, but I had seen Elam play against a superb Alabama team and he looked like a great player. I really thought that he would be a star on the Bills and have no idea what happened. I think his transitions always made him a real clunky scheme fit. He is just not quick enough to change from backpedal to close and vice versa. I think there are and were other issues too but that was the biggest one. 2 Quote
HappyDays Posted Friday at 05:42 PM Posted Friday at 05:42 PM 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think his transitions always made him a real clunky scheme fit. He is just not quick enough to change from backpedal to close and vice versa. I think there are and were other issues too but that was the biggest one. This is why I love Hairston's fit for our scheme. His transitions look so fluid on film. 1 1 Quote
Virgil Posted Friday at 06:01 PM Author Posted Friday at 06:01 PM The Bills have an offer to trade up to #20. The poll indicates wanting to stay at 30. To me, the players we would have wanted to trade up for are gone, and everyone left is in the same tier, so 30 will get us someone. Figured I'd at least put it out there. @LEBills Don't wait responses to make your pick. Proceed currently as if the Bills aren't interested. 1 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted Friday at 06:06 PM Posted Friday at 06:06 PM 22 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is why I love Hairston's fit for our scheme. His transitions look so fluid on film. Me too. I'm all in on Hairston. As I mentioned in an early comment, I'm starting to feel about Hairston, how I felt about Brian Thomas last year. I also really like Grant. Those are my 2 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted Friday at 06:07 PM Posted Friday at 06:07 PM 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: The Bills have an offer to trade up to #20. The poll indicates wanting to stay at 30. To me, the players we would have wanted to trade up for are gone, and everyone left is in the same tier, so 30 will get us someone. Figured I'd at least put it out there. @LEBills Don't wait responses to make your pick. Proceed currently as if the Bills aren't interested. Nope doesn’t make sense from a player and a draft pick perspective. You’d have to give up one of the 2nds and I don’t think the Bills will do that 2 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Friday at 06:08 PM Posted Friday at 06:08 PM Just now, gonzo1105 said: Nope doesn’t make sense from a player and a draft pick perspective. You’d have to give up one of the 2nds and I don’t think the Bills will do that Where I am too. The Rams is the highest I'd consider going. 1 Quote
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted Friday at 06:11 PM Posted Friday at 06:11 PM Stick w where we are, good players available but nothing worth going up for and the price to do so. JMO 1 Quote
Virgil Posted Friday at 07:13 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:13 PM Trade incoming and already approved. May take me a min to update the main page. Quote
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