TSW Mock Draft 2.0 - Completed

[gonzo1105]

The only thing worse is taking Alfred Collins after Kenneth Grant. Sure we’ll stop the run but QBs will have all day to sit back there with no pass rush 

[BillsShredder83]

On 4/9/2025 at 11:31 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

With the 4th pick in the NFL Draft the New England Patriots select:

 

Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise St.

 

I normally dislike taking a RB this high. But as pointed out in mock draft 1.0 there are 3 blue chip players in this draft. Hunter and Carter are gone so we will snag the third one.

 

While we do have Rhamondre Stevenson, he was benched several times last year for fumble issues. He coughed up the ball 7 times last year. We can't have that. 

 

Jeanty is an elite runner who can split wide and is a dynamic playmaker. Our new coach is very used to having a dominant run game and this will help take some of the pressure off Maye in year two. Both by improving the run game and providing him with a playmaking target in the pass game. 

 

 

@BigdaddyinOrlandorepresenting the Jacksonville Jaguars are on the clock 

 

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"Jeanty is an elite runner who can split wide and is a dynamic playmaker. "

Anybody smarter than me know whats up with his work in receiving game?  Looks like he had a stellar 2nd year catching the rock.... but reverted back to the mean this last season?

 

Different coach or scheme this year?  Did he show bad hands and they moved away from it?  He had good hands, but they ran him into the ground so much rushing that they let another RB spell him on "3rd and Pass"?

 

[GunnerBill]

19 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

 

Anybody smarter than me know whats up with his work in receiving game?  Looks like he had a stellar 2nd year catching the rock.... but reverted back to the mean this last season?

 

Different coach or scheme this year?  Did he show bad hands and they moved away from it?  He had good hands, but they ran him into the ground so much rushing that they let another RB spell him on "3rd and Pass"?

 

 

They were trying to get him the NCAA rushing record. Actively. So if he was out there they were running him rather than using him more multi functionally as they did the previous year. Which meant teams knew he was running at them and he still ran at them for 7ypc. Impressive.

[BillsShredder83]

On 4/11/2025 at 2:01 PM, Virgil said:

The Bills have an offer to trade up to #20.  The poll indicates wanting to stay at 30.

 

To me, the players we would have wanted to trade up for are gone, and everyone left is in the same tier, so 30 will get us someone.  

 

Figured I'd at least put it out there.

 

@LEBills Don't wait responses to make your pick.  Proceed currently as if the Bills aren't interested.  

Shouldve went after Golden ughhhhhh

[Virgil]

Just a heads up, I will be away from my laptop until later tonight, and won't be around when the poll ends.  Whoever wins the poll at 7p with be the selection, and the draft can continue.  I will update the main page once I get home later.  

 

@Bill from NYC @Big Blitz.  I'm aware that I have a pick myself after you two.

[Bill from NYC]

7 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Just a heads up, I will be away from my laptop until later tonight, and won't be around when the poll ends.  Whoever wins the poll at 7p with be the selection, and the draft can continue.  I will update the main page once I get home later.  

 

@Bill from NYC @Big Blitz.  I'm aware that I have a pick myself after you two.

Not a prob. I will have my pick promptly after 7 PM.

[Allen2Moulds]

I don't like any of the choices at 56. This mock, pushes the desire to trade up. In both rounds. I just listened to Marino, and he said both of our 2nds could get us back in the 1st. Imagine leaving the draft with either Grant or Harmon, and Hairston. Todd McShay thinks that Hairston is the 2nd best athlete in the draft,after Travis Hunter. Elite athlete with instincts. 

Edited Monday at 07:01 PM by Allen2Moulds

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 hour ago, Allen2Moulds said:

I don't like any of the choices at 56. This mock, pushes the desire to trade up. In both rounds. I just listened to Marino, and he said both of our 2nds could get us back in the 1st. Imagine leaving the draft with either Grant or Harmon, and Hairston. Todd McShay thinks that Hairston is the 2nd best athlete in the draft,after Travis Hunter. Elite athlete with instincts. 

Buffalo News today took Hairston in the 1st round.  Said you guessed it, theres a lot of NT and CB's are short supply as one of the reasons

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Buffalo News today took Hairston in the 1st round.  Said you guessed it, theres a lot of NT and CB's are short supply as one of the reasons

 

First, I don’t pretend to know anything about the guy, but the last two weaknesses from NFL.COM might push him down some:

 

Declares hips a little prematurely. 

Inconsistent in locating the football downfield.

Will have trouble checking stronger wideouts.

Massive liability in run support.

Below-average open-field tackler after the catch.

[MrEpsYtown]

Been saying it awhile, but unless they make other additions, it’s going to be a corner. Maybe I’m wrong, but this regime is not clever about all this. I just hope they pick the right one. 

[BillsFanForever19]

19 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Been saying it awhile, but unless they make other additions, it’s going to be a corner. Maybe I’m wrong, but this regime is not clever about all this. I just hope they pick the right one. 

 

If this Draft played out, Beane is definitely moving up.

 

With Revel, Amos, Porter, Thomas, and Morrison on the board at 30 - I could see him thinking he can wait and one of them will fall to 56. But if it fell this way where they all go between 36-54, I think he'd definitely move up before the well went dry.

[QLBillsFan]

34 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Been saying it awhile, but unless they make other additions, it’s going to be a corner. Maybe I’m wrong, but this regime is not clever about all this. I just hope they pick the right one. 

The mocks we do and see really show the dilemma the Bills face at 30. CB early is likely the move based on it’s the biggest need for an immediate perceived lack of high end depth at CB vs DT. But hey what does anyone really know with Benford 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Virgil]

Here's the big question, IMO.  

 

Do we feel like we need to walk away with the first 3 rounds with two players who can immediately contribute that have decent grades, or 3 BPAs?

 

To me, DT and DB is a need.  Everything else is depth and competition.  So I am personally okay sacrificing one of our top 3 picks, if that allows us to move up and get that DT and DB we need.  I'd rather that than one of them, and then two "hopeful" starters.

 

At the end of the day, I trust Beane, even if he trades all 3 to move up into the top 10-13 to grab one guy.

[Mike in Horseheads]

32 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Here's the big question, IMO.  

 

Do we feel like we need to walk away with the first 3 rounds with two players who can immediately contribute that have decent grades, or 3 BPAs?

 

To me, DT and DB is a need.  Everything else is depth and competition.  So I am personally okay sacrificing one of our top 3 picks, if that allows us to move up and get that DT and DB we need.  I'd rather that than one of them, and then two "hopeful" starters.

 

At the end of the day, I trust Beane, even if he trades all 3 to move up into the top 10-13 to grab one guy.

We could trade 56 and 62 for 33.  that works on draft pick value 98+84=182   vs 180 for pick 33

[BillsFanForever19]

5 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

The only thing worse is taking Alfred Collins after Kenneth Grant. Sure we’ll stop the run but QBs will have all day to sit back there with no pass rush 

 

The concern to me wouldn't be the Pass Rush, per se. It would be that there would be no time for Pass Rush to be generated bc between Jackson/Ingram/Late Round Pick at Starting CB and some uninspiring combo of 2 from the field of Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin, and Forrest at Safety - that ball is coming out of the hands of the QB lightning fast. Just like last year.

Edited Monday at 09:48 PM by BillsFanForever19

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

If this Draft played out, Beane is definitely moving up.

 

With Revel, Amos, Porter, Thomas, and Morrison on the board at 30 - I could see him thinking he can wait and one of them will fall to 56. But if it fell this way where they all go between 36-54, I think he'd definitely move up before the well went dry.

Agreed! Makes a lot of sense

[BillsFanForever19]

41 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Here's the big question, IMO.  

 

Do we feel like we need to walk away with the first 3 rounds with two players who can immediately contribute that have decent grades, or 3 BPAs?

 

To me, DT and DB is a need.  Everything else is depth and competition.  So I am personally okay sacrificing one of our top 3 picks, if that allows us to move up and get that DT and DB we need.  I'd rather that than one of them, and then two "hopeful" starters.

 

At the end of the day, I trust Beane, even if he trades all 3 to move up into the top 10-13 to grab one guy.

 

You need a 1T and a CB within those top 3 picks. You can go BPA with the other. Don't force a pick if the board doesn't fall right at either position of need. If there isn't value at either need in Round 1, move down (unless there's a BPA that's sticking out like a sore thumb at another position). Then use the extra pick(s) in the move down (on top of the others) to move around Round 2 freely to secure those players of need at their correct value.

 

With the holes we have at those positions and the (lack of) options at those positions in the veteran market - we can't leave Round 2 without addressing both of those spots, in my opinion.

[MrEpsYtown]

49 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Here's the big question, IMO.  

 

Do we feel like we need to walk away with the first 3 rounds with two players who can immediately contribute that have decent grades, or 3 BPAs?

 

To me, DT and DB is a need.  Everything else is depth and competition.  So I am personally okay sacrificing one of our top 3 picks, if that allows us to move up and get that DT and DB we need.  I'd rather that than one of them, and then two "hopeful" starters.

 

At the end of the day, I trust Beane, even if he trades all 3 to move up into the top 10-13 to grab one guy.

The fundamental issue with this regime is that Beane has backed himself into a corner where he has these two big needs. BPA is never going to happen with the current needs on the roster. But there are avenues in which he can fill both of those needs by trading one of those picks. I don’t you can fill both standing pat, maybe you can, but you will be settling for lesser players and maybe reaching. 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

The fundamental issue with this regime is that Beane has backed himself into a corner where he has these two big needs. BPA is never going to happen with the current needs on the roster. But there are avenues in which he can fill both of those needs by trading one of those picks. I don’t you can fill both standing pat, maybe you can, but you will be settling for lesser players and maybe reaching. 

Thibodeaux can probably be had

[nosejob]

18 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

The fundamental issue with this regime is that Beane has backed himself into a corner where he has these two big needs. BPA is never going to happen with the current needs on the roster. But there are avenues in which he can fill both of those needs by trading one of those picks. I don’t you can fill both standing pat, maybe you can, but you will be settling for lesser players and maybe reaching. 

I am perfectly fine with using a future pick from the END of round 1 or 2 to, give us the ability to move up in 2 and gain a 3 or just gain a 3rd.

I guess if we traded 62 for 70 and 88? (JAGS)  give them a 5th?

Edited Monday at 10:18 PM by nosejob