TSW Mock Draft 2.0 - Completed

[Virgil]

33 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Not sure how you are applying those picks in terms of the trades, but the scenario I just laid out with Jax is similar except we wouldn't be trading our first, we would need to stay put and take Grant (as Grant IMHO likely comes off the board quicker than Amos after pick 30 if both are still there).  But we would net both, and still have a pick in the 3rd for essentially the cost of a 4th.  

 

In my mind, a scenario might be using a 4th to move up in the 1st a few spots, to get Grant.  Then use both 2nds to move up and get Amos.  

 

Not saying they should do it, but based off mocks and trade charts, that could get it done.   

[nosejob]

10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Jax sends 36 and 88 (690)

I would gladly send next year's 1st to them for 36 ( from 56 )and 70 instead. Probably still do it for 88. This draft could be a generational one.

30

36

62

70 or 88

109

132

6 core players to supercharge the back 9 for Josh.

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Tremaine Edmunds is still only 15.

Technically true, but in just over 2 weeks (May 2nd), he turns 16.

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, Virgil said:

 

I think that's very doable, but might require more trading than people would like.  

 

Grant looks to go anywhere between 20-30, while Amos could go anywhere from 25-40.

 

To get both, I think we would need to trade our 1st, both 2nd's, and probably a 4th.  

 

To me, I'm okay with that, as everyone else is going to be depth on this team that we hope pan out.  If Amos can start and hold his own, and Grant makes us better up the middle, than we are incrementally better.  

have you considered using a pick from next year ? Getting 3 starters this year from the 1st 3 picks ?

[Virgil]

20 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

have you considered using a pick from next year ? Getting 3 starters this year from the 1st 3 picks ?

I really hope we don’t touch next years picks, as this is an overall weak draft.  If we can get what we need this year without dipping into next year, that would be ideal I think.  

[nosejob]

25 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I really hope we don’t touch next years picks, as this is an overall weak draft.  If we can get what we need this year without dipping into next year, that would be ideal I think.  

To me it's the smart thing to do. I'm afraid he's gonna draft down and we'll watch 3 or more BPAs go by...for like pick 95  or we'll give up a 2 and both fours to go up 3 spots in the first.  Am I having flashbacks? I guess this should be in the Doomsday thread..

[transplantbillsfan]

Did this board seriously just draft 3 DTs in a row?????

[MrEpsYtown]

58 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Did this board seriously just draft 3 DTs in a row?????

Drafted two then traded back. 

[3rdand12]

23 hours ago, Virgil said:

I really hope we don’t touch next years picks, as this is an overall weak draft.  If we can get what we need this year without dipping into next year, that would be ideal I think.  

I am leaning into getting the guys in the room to Consider it.

Especially to get more control of the second round. The meat of the draft is in there for what i feel are needs.

With no 3rd rounder to trade , I just felt Bills would not have the ammo to.

 I would trade next years second and third if that would allow them to draft twice in the second round and get Exactly whom they love and fit. Starters.

Key positions. We know the list of 4.

Trading next years first away would really stretch my limit.

This Draft , McBeanes Team of Wizards and Witches really need to bring on this draft. this might be a busy year on the pones after the 1st 10 picks are in ?

 btw thank for note Virgil and I can agree with you too honestly.

22 hours ago, nosejob said:

To me it's the smart thing to do. I'm afraid he's gonna draft down and we'll watch 3 or more BPAs go by...for like pick 95  or we'll give up a 2 and both fours to go up 3 spots in the first.  Am I having flashbacks? I guess this should be in the Doomsday thread..

We all have flashbacks, we're Bills fans !
Real hesitant to move in the 1st for any player unless its up a spot or two to jump some team who wants what we want.

 

[3rdand12]

17 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Did this board seriously just draft 3 DTs in a row?????

Going to run a HEAVY rotation this year 🤠

 You will thank us later 😋

16 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Drafted two then traded back. 

This😍

 

[nosejob]

37 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

I am leaning into getting the guys in the room to Consider it.

Especially to get more control of the second round. The meat of the draft is in there for what i feel are needs.

With no 3rd rounder to trade , I just felt Bills would not have the ammo to.

 I would trade next years second and third if that would allow them to draft twice in the second round and get Exactly whom they love and fit. Starters.

Key positions. We know the list of 4.

Trading next years first away would really stretch my limit.

This Draft , McBeanes Team of Wizards and Witches really need to bring on this draft. this might be a busy year on the pones after the 1st 10 picks are in ?

 btw thank for note Virgil and I can agree with you too honestly.

We all have flashbacks, we're Bills fans !
Real hesitant to move in the 1st for any player unless its up a spot or two to jump some team who wants what we want.

 

But no need for next 2nd and 3rd. A 29-32 pick next year should get us from 62 to 52 and 82. THEN use  the 5th and 6th rounders to dabble.

We may get a comp if Cook walks or gets traded. Somehow, we'll end up with ammo to get into the first if we need to. Worry about that later. SB! This year we get 30 / 52 / 56 / 82 then 109. Now those 5ths and 6ths can do us some good.

 

edit remember..Seattle has 50-52 and 82-92. They're giving basically a 3rd for a 26 1st. They may need it if Darnold turtles. So win/win

Edited Thursday at 10:22 PM by nosejob

[GunnerBill]

18 minutes ago, nosejob said:

But no need for next 2nd and 3rd. A 29-32 pick next year should get us from 62 to 52 and 82. THEN use  the 5th and 6th rounders to dabble.

We may get a comp if Cook walks or gets traded. Somehow, we'll end up with ammo to get into the first if we need to. Worry about that later. SB! This year we get 30 / 52 / 56 / 82 then 109. Now those 5ths and 6ths can do us some good.

 

edit remember..Seattle has 50-52 and 82-92. They're giving basically a 3rd for a 26 1st. They may need it if Darnold turtles. So win/win

 

Giving up a 1st for an extra day 2 pick this year is nonsensical. You never trade a 1st for anything other than a special player. Whether that is a vet you trade it away for OR a prospect you think is special. Trading it just for more day 2 ammo is a crazy idea.

[nosejob]

11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Giving up a 1st for an extra day 2 pick this year is nonsensical. You never trade a 1st for anything other than a special player. Whether that is a vet you trade it away for OR a prospect you think is special. Trading it just for more day 2 ammo is a crazy idea.

We did it last year and may do it again this year so....As a matter of fact, had we done what I proposed last year maybe WR wouldn't be the need that many feel it is a year after a loaded WR class.

Edited Friday at 09:54 AM by nosejob

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, nosejob said:

We did it last year and may do it again this year so....

 

No we didn't. We traded back out of the first round because when it came to the Bills at 30 they didn't think anything there was worth spending a 1st on.

 

You are talking about a year out devaluing a future asset for two day 2 picks in this draft. Imagine Josh gets hurt week 4 and then 1st rounder next year ends up a top 10 pick?

 

Devaluing a 1st to a 2nd when it is time to use that 1st is one thing. Doing it ahead of time to cash your chips on a couple of day two picks? No NFL GM is ever doing that.

[nosejob]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No we didn't. We traded back out of the first round because when it came to the Bills at 30 they didn't think anything there was worth spending a 1st on.

 

You are talking about a year out devaluing a future asset for two day 2 picks in this draft. Imagine Josh gets hurt week 4 and then 1st rounder next year ends up a top 10 pick?

 

Devaluing a 1st to a 2nd when it is time to use that 1st is one thing. Doing it ahead of time to cash your chips on a couple of day two picks? No NFL GM is ever doing that.

Rather not go there. Trying to enjoy my coffee. Enjoy your lunch. Tea and Crumpets?

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, nosejob said:

Rather not go there. Trying to enjoy my coffee. Enjoy your lunch. Tea and Crumpets?

 

Coffee actually. Very nice too.