Bills and McGovern discussing contract extension?

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

And McGovern is one of those players, just like Morse, who may be cut free a year or two before his career is done. So if he gets an extension this year, I'd guess that he doesn't play out the full contract with the Bills.

Agreed, but he did a dang good job at center last year.  Josh trusts him and having stability at Center is crucial imho.

[mjt328]

56 minutes ago, Gregg said:

I hope so. It seems like I say this every year, but Beane needs to hit a HR in this draft. We have had to many disappointing performances by the defense over the years in the playoffs. Let's hope that changes in 2025. 

 

That's because Beane's drafts are usually singles/doubles instead of homeruns.

 

My worry is that he's once again really backed himself into a corner (pun intended) at the CB and WR positions.  This appears to be an extremely weak year for both.  Meanwhile, the D-Line is loaded this year at both edge rusher and tackle.  It would be a great year to load up on the front.  But sitting at #30, I could unfortunately see us getting desperate, trading up to fill needs, reaching for value, and then settling for left-overs on the DL on Day 3.

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:19 PM by mjt328

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

10 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

“In breaking news the Buffalo Bills have announced a contract extension for second year running back Ray Davis…”

 

15 Million a year!

[Sierra Foothills]

14 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Agreed, but he did a dang good job at center last year.

Smithers? Is that you?

 

11 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

That's because Beane's drafts are usually singles/doubles instead of homeruns.

 

My worry is that he's once again really backed himself into a corner (pun intended) at the CB and WR positions.  This appears to be an extremely weak year for both.  Meanwhile, the D-Line is loaded this year at both edge rusher and tackle.  It would be a great year to load up on the front.  But sitting at #30, I could unfortunately see us getting desperate, trading up to fill needs, reaching for value, and then settling for left-overs on the DL on Day 3.

Beane should just do the honorable thing and resign in disgrace… or commit harakiri.

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:31 PM by Sierra Foothills

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

Does this signal that they don't view SVPG as the future at center?

He has a long road to crack the starting center job anyways

 

15 years ago when the bills were awful sure we can draft a fifth round pick or a six-round pick and we had to play him because we were bad...

 

He's probably third at the center cracking order rn behind McGovern and I think Alec Anderson gets a crack there first of McGovern isn't re-signed 

 

1 hour ago, T master said:

I'd think not, they have always had a back up at the center position on the team and given Kromer's experience one might think that they are getting him ready like McGovern to play to play multiple positions going forward and incase of injury he would be a great depth player to have around .

He doesn't have the length to be a guard.. svgp

 

Alec Anderson who is the most valuable sixth offensive lineman in the NFL last year is the guy getting groomed everywhere.. he has played center guard and tackle 

 

And certainly is going to be given a shot at center if we don't re sign McGovern 

 

That's my prediction 

[Sierra Foothills]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

That's my prediction 

That’s a very solid take.

 

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[Process]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He has a long road to crack the starting center job anyways

 

15 years ago when the bills were awful sure we can draft a fifth round pick or a six-round pick and we had to play him because we were bad...

 

He's probably third at the center cracking order rn behind McGovern and I think Alec Anderson gets a crack there first of McGovern isn't re-signed 

 

He doesn't have the length to be a guard.. svgp

 

Alec Anderson who is the most valuable sixth offensive lineman in the NFL last year is the guy getting groomed everywhere.. he has played center guard and tackle 

 

And certainly is going to be given a shot at center if we don't re sign McGovern 

 

That's my prediction 

My guess is we extend Connor, and Anderson replaces Edwards after this year. 

[Shaw66]

43 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Agreed, but he did a dang good job at center last year.  Josh trusts him and having stability at Center is crucial imho.

Sure, but the assumption is that VPG will grow into a quality starter himself.  It's that kind of building that Beane wants to do, the younger guy grows into the replacement before you need him.  If the Bills extend McGovern without a plan to release him, then it means that they think VPG can't be what they hoped.  

 

I think in Beane's perfect world, VPG forces McGovern out of Buffalo.  If that doesn't happen, it means Beane is looking, again, for a center in the free agent market. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

49 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Smithers? Is that you?

 

Beane should just do the honorable thing and resign in disgrace… or commit harakiri.

 

It's Seppuku.

19 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Sure, but the assumption is that VPG will grow into a quality starter himself.  It's that kind of building that Beane wants to do, the younger guy grows into the replacement before you need him.  If the Bills extend McGovern without a plan to release him, then it means that they think VPG can't be what they hoped.  

 

I think in Beane's perfect world, VPG forces McGovern out of Buffalo.  If that doesn't happen, it means Beane is looking, again, for a center in the free agent market. 

The fact they are talking extension doesn't send a strong signal VPG is on track. 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Why?  Is McGovern getting $15M/year?

 

He is after Barkley reset the market!

[Billzgobowlin]

2 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

 Until they fix the defense, they aren't winning anything except the AFCE.

I remember a time when we had not done that for 20 years in a row. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

2 hours ago, The Cincinnati Kid said:

He was voted by me as my most underrated Bills player in another thread.

An amazing find by Beane and he is only 27. Definitely a player who will be one of the cornerstones of the Line for years to come. Love what he’s done for the running game. Doesn’t seem one dimensional either as the Bills allowed only 8 sacks for the entire year. The O-Line gave Josh the time and rushing attack to propel him to a much deserved MVP award. IDC who you are, no player can do everything alone. 

 

Edited Tuesday at 09:47 PM by ChronicAndKnuckles

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

Does this signal that they don't view SVPG as the future at center?

 

Maybe trying to make a deal with either McGovern or Edwards.  Whichever signs first is here long term, other is gone after this year and then move SVPG into starting role??

[Sierra Foothills]

27 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

It's Seppuku.

But If I said Seppuku, very few people would know what I’m talking about… and it’s my bad joke (dagnabit).

In all seriousness, when we signed MCGovern there were numerous people here  saying that we signed the wrong Connor McGovern.

[mjt328]

1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Beane should just do the honorable thing and resign in disgrace… or commit harakiri.

 

Don't get me wrong.  Brandon Beane is still a Top 5 GM in the NFL.

It's just that he's significantly lower than the top guys Howie Roseman and Brett Veach.  I think he's also a tier below Eric DeCosta and Les Snead.

 

Just like if you were to say Jalen Hurts is a Top 5 QB in the NFL (which is reasonable).

He's still quite a bit below the top guys in Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen.

 

As I've said many times about Beane.  I like him.  I don't want to see him fired.  But I do think he's gotten too comfortable and conservative.

He needs to be more aggressive, and he needs to break a little from his normal draft routine.

 

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, T master said:

I'd think not, they have always had a back up at the center position on the team and given Kromer's experience one might think that they are getting him ready like McGovern to play to play multiple positions going forward and incase of injury he would be a great depth player to have around .

You keep them both.  Bills O line is best it has been overall in a rather long time !

[Sierra Foothills]

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

That's because Beane's drafts are usually singles/doubles instead of home runs.

 

1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Beane should just do the honorable thing and resign in disgrace… or commit harakiri.

 

 

5 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

Don't get me wrong.  Brandon Beane is still a Top 5 GM in the NFL.

It's just that he's significantly lower than the top guys Howie Roseman and Brett Veach.  I think he's also a tier below Eric DeCosta and Les Snead.

 

Just like if you were to say Jalen Hurts is a Top 5 QB in the NFL (which is reasonable).

He's still quite a bit below the top guys in Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen.

 

As I've said many times about Beane.  I like him.  I don't want to see him fired.  But I do think he's gotten too comfortable and conservative.

He needs to be more aggressive, and he needs to break a little from his normal draft routine.

 

Well then, at the very least he should cut off his own thumb.

 

[Buffalo716]

18 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Maybe trying to make a deal with either McGovern or Edwards.  Whichever signs first is here long term, other is gone after this year and then move SVPG into starting role??

I don't get what people are hoping for out of a fifth round short-armed center 

 

We literally have a better one right now... Svgp is squarely a guy who needed development 

 

Why is everybody so eager to throw a fifth round pick out there to play when we have better people on the line

 

Our center is bigger stronger, longer, has NFL experience.. like I wouldn't be trying to get rid of him... And as I said Alec Anderson has played C, G and T .. was the most valuable sixth offensive lineman last year in the NFL

 

He's getting a crack at C or G before svgp rn

[Malazan]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

We literally have a better one right now... Svgp is squarely a guy who needed development 

 

Why is everybody so eager to throw a fifth round pick out there to play when we have better people on the line

 

Our center is bigger stronger, longer, has NFL experience.. like I wouldn't be trying to get rid of him... And as I said Alec Anderson has played C, G and T .. was the most valuable sixth offensive lineman last year in the NFL

 

He's getting a crack at C or G before svgp rn

It's the same reason these dingwings would pick the mystery box over $100,000.  The Mystery Box could be anything! It could even be $100,000!

Edited Tuesday at 10:17 PM by Malazan

[HurlyBurly51]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

Does this signal that they don't view SVPG as the future at center?

No, it signals McGovern has been excellent.