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7 hours ago, julian said:

The numbers are absurd, my favourite record is 50 goals in 39 games lol.

 

Lemieux was the only player who had a legit shot at all Gretzky’s records if not for a bad back and cancer, he was amazing.

 

Another absurd thing? Gretzky AVERAGED 143 points per season over his career.

 

Only 9 other players in the history of the NHL have even had a 143 point season, and only Lemieux with 4 and Esposito with 2 have more than 1 of them outside of Gretzky who had 10. 

 

So essentially only 9 other players could even accomplish a single time what Gretzky averaged over 20 years.  Mind blowing.

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On 4/7/2025 at 7:58 PM, chongli said:

 

Or Cy Young's 749 complete games (the current active leader, Justin Verlander, has just 26)m

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34872477/ranking-most-unbreakable-records-sports-nfl-nba-nhl-mlb

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Baseball pitching has a bunch of records that will never be touched, wins, complete games, total innings, total starts, most shutouts all are untouchable. 

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2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Another absurd thing? Gretzky AVERAGED 143 points per season over his career.

 

Only 9 other players in the history of the NHL have even had a 143 point season, and only Lemieux with 4 and Esposito with 2 have more than 1 of them outside of Gretzky who had 10. 

 

So essentially only 9 other players could even accomplish a single time what Gretzky averaged over 20 years.  Mind blowing.

Wow… the more you dig down on his accomplishments, numbers and records, the more you understand why he truly is the only unarguable GOAT in North American professional team sport.

 

 One can argue maybe if Mario or Orr didn’t have shortened careers they had a legit shot at the GOAT title but those are what ifs.

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I dont think the player is in the league currently and or has just joined that will break the Recieving and Rushing records..  Derek Henry is like 7k away and getting older...  Like Julio Jones and DeAndre are like 8-10k away and are getting much older... I think Watt or Myles garrett for the sack record are the two most likely... but they gonna need to play awhile and at a high level... Von miller is closest current but he needs like 65 sacks to do it... not happening... 

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1 hour ago, JP51 said:

I dont think the player is in the league currently and or has just joined that will break the Recieving and Rushing records..  Derek Henry is like 7k away and getting older...  Like Julio Jones and DeAndre are like 8-10k away and are getting much older... I think Watt or Myles garrett for the sack record are the two most likely... but they gonna need to play awhile and at a high level... Von miller is closest current but he needs like 65 sacks to do it... not happening... 

I actually think Henry has a realistic shot, especially since he knows what he is aiming for as far as yards go. 7 more years with 5 of them being 1200 average and then two more as being secondary back. Obviously it is not a given and he would really have to want that record to stick around that long.

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Fact of the matter is goalie's equipment got bigger, goalies got considerably better, and offenses had to adapt.  

 

Ovechkin has lead the league in goals 9 times.  He missed his first year with a lockout, and had another season affected by Covid.  The guy they named the goal scoring trophy after lead the league 5x.  

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1 hour ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

Fact of the matter is goalie's equipment got bigger, goalies got considerably better,

Underrated factor. In 80s skinny standing goalies looked like 3rd post. Modern giant goalkeepers in bigger equipment look like cover 90% of goal.

And Gretzky had weaker opposition. He played in dynasty full of HOFers against best Canadians players. Russian, European players were added to NHL later. Ovechkin is playing against best World players.

 

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19 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

I actually think Henry has a realistic shot, especially since he knows what he is aiming for as far as yards go. 7 more years with 5 of them being 1200 average and then two more as being secondary back. Obviously it is not a given and he would really have to want that record to stick around that long.

I dunno... its possible, he would need to be ageless like a Frank Gore or Emmitt himself.... 16 years in the league as a Big back is alot... but he was the other one I thought of and then looked and was like, Big power backs can drop off quick... thats a long time for a big man to pound the rock.. but to your point, he is a super freak of nature... the other assumption is that he can stay healthy for 7 more years...  that could derail this as well... but I dont disagree... he does have a chance... a lot needs to go right. 

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Just now, ddaryl said:

all records fall eventually

 

I think Gretsky's overall points record (goals/assists) is going to be really tough to beat. I doubt I see it in my lifetime.

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1 hour ago, JP51 said:

I dunno... its possible, he would need to be ageless like a Frank Gore or Emmitt himself.... 16 years in the league as a Big back is alot... but he was the other one I thought of and then looked and was like, Big power backs can drop off quick... thats a long time for a big man to pound the rock.. but to your point, he is a super freak of nature... the other assumption is that he can stay healthy for 7 more years...  that could derail this as well... but I dont disagree... he does have a chance... a lot needs to go right. 

Along the same line, I am not predicting it as likely but I do think he has more than 10% chance whereas no one else has more than 1% shot. 

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10 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

Along the same line, I am not predicting it as likely but I do think he has more than 10% chance whereas no one else has more than 1% shot. 

Oh I would totally give him a 10% shot... but the last half of his career would need to be special and fortunate... you also made an earlier point about his own desire... Like how much money is enough for you to stop taking the beating you take week after week... 

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1 minute ago, JP51 said:

Oh I would totally give him a 10% shot... but the last half of his career would need to be special and fortunate... you also made an earlier point about his own desire... Like how much money is enough for you to stop taking the beating you take week after week... 

If you watch some of the older RBs they walk like they are invalids, getting put before that happens makes sense to me. 

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3 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

I think Gretsky's overall points record (goals/assists) is going to be really tough to beat. I doubt I see it in my lifetime.


that may be true, but all records do fall eventually.

 

I always laugh when I hear about a record that is never going to be beaten

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On 4/8/2025 at 5:48 AM, chongli said:

 

Nice...I see now. I like the Yankees too.

 

Someone posted a poll here a few weeks ago where you couldn't reply giving three options:

 

a. born in WNY and still live there

b. grew up in WNY and moved out

c. grew up elsewhere and moved to WNY

 

You would be in a fourth option: neither grew up in nor moved to WNY.


I have a couple of friends here in Northern California that liked the 90s Bills and became fans.  They don’t like the Niners.

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