Ovi's record. Smth like that in NFL?

[Gregg]

1 hour ago, CSBill said:

I believe three people transcend their sport; they are more than the "Goats"; they are cultural icons:

• Wayne Gretzky
• Michael Jordon
• Babe Ruth

People from all walks of life know these three. Their participation elevated their sport. There are innumerable great athletes with phenomenal accomplishments, but the people above were known far beyond the court/field.

 

Who else might you nominate for this Transendence category? Brady, Tiger Woods, Richars Petty, Michael Phelps, ? ? ?

 

For football I would include Jim Brown.

[chongli]

20 minutes ago, Artem Lipatov said:

In many countries Tyson is household name for boxing. Ali is legend. But Tyson is more popular. 

In Russia if smb likes to fight he can be called Tyson. 

 

 

Agreed. He is such an icon in Japan, the character in the Street Fighter, Mike Bison, a vicious and menacing boxer who had killed a fighter in the ring, was named after him. He was called "Balrog" in subsequent editions to avoid liability concerns, and the name "M. Bison" was given to another character.

[Royale with Cheese]

Johnny Vander Meer's record....2 consecutive no hitters.  No one will ever throw 3 consecutive.

 

 

 

[Gregg]

How about the Islanders 19 straight playoff series wins. They won 4 Cups from 80-83 and then reached the Finals in 84 when they finally lost to the Oilers in 5 games. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

Cal Ripken’s 2,632 consecutive games played to me is the most unbelievable record in sports. That’s the equivalent of never calling into work sick, never missing time with an injury, deaths in the family etc for 20 years. Never is a long time but I don’t think in our lifetime that this record will ever be broken imo.

[zow2]

Ovi has had a fantastic career as a goal scorer, but as others, like me who were really into hockey during the Wayne Gretzky era he will have no peers.

 

Consider that if you took away every goal that The Great One scored, he would still have the leagues all-time points record.  Scoring goals was a hobby for Gretzky, he was mainly a set up man, and was incredible at it.

 

 

[Big Turk]

14 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

nice record, but Gretzky has no peer, and its not even close

 

I live in the DC area, and Ovi scored a ton by burying a bunch of one timers from the top of the circle on the power play.. like hundreds of goals this way.. a little like Cook scoring a pile of TDs from inside the 10, makes the total TD count kind of misleading

 

The Great One is hundreds of points ahead of anyone else.. total team player.   multiple Stanley Cups , etc etc.  

 

Ovi is kind of like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice, amazing ability to score a ton but ....  

 

The most impressive record is Gretzky's point and assist record. In terms of career points, Gretzky has more assists, 1963,  than the 2nd place player on the list has points(goals + assists) which is Jaromir Jagr at 1921.  That record is absurd and will likely never be broken. That's on top of his 894 goals. Essentially, if Gretzky wanted to score another 300-400 goals, he easily could have. His best talent was not scoring goals, as good as it as he was, it was setting up teammates. Gretzky is almost 1000 points ahead of the 2nd place Jagr in total points.

Edited April 8 by Big Turk

[chongli]

I never understood why assists in the NHL count as one point, but not in the NBA..

[Mat68]

15 hours ago, Artem Lipatov said:

All sports world is impressed now by Ovechkin pass Gretzky's record which was considered as unbeatable forever.

What similar unattainable record in NFL can be broken in foreseeable future?

Bruce Smith's 200 sacks? Emmitt Smith rushing yards? Jerry Rice's receiving yards? 

Jerry Rice career yards or Tds are so far it’s crazy.  Gotta average 1,144.75 yards and 9.85 TDs for 20 years to tie him in both areas.  

[Jauronimo]

I didn't think anyone would even come close to the goal record ever. Gretzky, and the other greats of the time, put up huge numbers in the expansion era during the 80s when scoring was at an all time high.  Goals are harder to come by in the modern league but I guess Ovi was fortunate that he missed the clutch and grab era, not that he wouldn't have been dominant in the "dead puck" years.  The longevity and sustained production that was required to break the record is really the most impressive part.  Ovi is pushing 40 and there has been almost no drop off in his stats over the last 10 years.  Gretzky fell off a cliff in his twilight years as back injuries and age caught up with him. 

[Jauronimo]

9 hours ago, US Egg said:

Gretzky was not flawless….um, okay?

 

That said, Orr is the only player in the argument with Gretzky for who’s the greatest. 

Mario is very much in the conversation. Even Gretzky acknowledges that Mario would have broken many of his records if not for injuries and cancer.  

[Einstein's Dog]

14 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

nice record, but Gretzky has no peer, and its not even close

 

I live in the DC area, and Ovi scored a ton by burying a bunch of one timers from the top of the circle on the power play.. like hundreds of goals this way.. a little like Cook scoring a pile of TDs from inside the 10, makes the total TD count kind of misleading

 

The Cook hate is getting ridiculous (and I'm as disappointed as anyone with Cook).   Scoring inside the 10 is what most RB TD leaders do.   Is D Henry's TD total also misleading?

 

IMO if you wanted to call Cook's TD count misleading would be to say he had a lot that weren't inside the 10, meaning he is not as much of a short yardage specialist as the total would indicate.  But then the recency bias of Cook's fourth down, will not be denied, effort against KC would erase a lot of those thoughts.

 

[warrior9]

15 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

nice record, but Gretzky has no peer, and its not even close

 

I live in the DC area, and Ovi scored a ton by burying a bunch of one timers from the top of the circle on the power play.. like hundreds of goals this way.. a little like Cook scoring a pile of TDs from inside the 10, makes the total TD count kind of misleading

 

The Great One is hundreds of points ahead of anyone else.. total team player.   multiple Stanley Cups , etc etc.  

 

Ovi is kind of like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice, amazing ability to score a ton but ....  

This might be the craziest most lunatic take I've ever seen (next to Cowherd saying Ben Simmons is coming to replace LeBron)

 

It wasn't like he was scoring on open nets? Do one timers effectively make scoring a goal harder? Literally EVERY SINGLE player in the NHL hit's one timers, why don't they all have close to this many goals? 

 

Also , Cook scoring from inside the 10? You mean like literally every other RB in the league? The avg TD from an RB in the NFL is like 8 yards. 

 

Cool he has 100's of powerplay goals.... what about the other 500? This post is absolutely mind numbing.

Edited April 8 by warrior9

[US Egg]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

For football I would include Jim Brown.

If Brown had more than one championship he makes a strong case.
 

Were the conversation who was the greatest regular season player, it be him.

[warrior9]

2 hours ago, CSBill said:

I believe three people transcend their sport; they are more than the "Goats"; they are cultural icons:

• Wayne Gretzky
• Michael Jordon
• Babe Ruth

People from all walks of life know these three. Their participation elevated their sport. There are innumerable great athletes with phenomenal accomplishments, but the people above were known far beyond the court/field.

 

Who else might you nominate for this Transendence category? Brady, Tiger Woods, Richars Petty, Michael Phelps, ? ? ?

You missed Hulk Hogan man. 

 

But 100000% Tiger Woods needs to be on that list. He single handedly grew the sport. Shoot even today if he plays, ratings are higher than any other event. He got a TON of kids into golf (same way Gretzky got kids into hockey). He was an athlete, a competitor, etc and absolutely changed the game and landscape of golf. He is also a global and cultural icon (before his infidelity scandal, obviously).

[US Egg]

17 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

You missed Hulk Hogan man.

He should be on Rushmore with Ali, Ruth and Jordan.

[T master]

15 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

nice record, but Gretzky has no peer, and its not even close

 

I live in the DC area, and Ovi scored a ton by burying a bunch of one timers from the top of the circle on the power play.. like hundreds of goals this way.. a little like Cook scoring a pile of TDs from inside the 10, makes the total TD count kind of misleading

 

The Great One is hundreds of points ahead of anyone else.. total team player.   multiple Stanley Cups , etc etc.  

 

Ovi is kind of like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice, amazing ability to score a ton but ....  

 

The same comparisons have been made about Lebron which couldn't hold MJ's jock strap ...

[US Egg]

6 minutes ago, T master said:

The same comparisons have been made about Lebron which couldn't hold MJ's jock strap ...

James couldn’t play though his tears crying from the nasty hand checking in the Jordan era.

[Artem Lipatov]

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

Jerry Rice career yards or Tds are so far it’s crazy.  Gotta average 1,144.75 yards and 9.85 TDs for 20 years to tie him in both areas

Unbelievable stats. How could Rice make such figures in not-passing era?

I can understand why Emmit's  record is unattainable now (NFL is passing league).

I can understand about Bruce's record ( many of  his sacks would be "roughing the passer" now).

But with all protection to QB and WRs none of them will be close to this record. Rice 22k yards, Julio Jones 13k. How?

[ExiledInIllinois]

Baseball:

White Sox, 2005 World Series... 4 pitchers, 4 complete games, sweep.