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All sports world is impressed now by Ovechkin pass Gretzky's record which was considered as unbeatable forever.

What similar unattainable record in NFL can be broken in foreseeable future?

Bruce Smith's 200 sacks? Emmitt Smith rushing yards? Jerry Rice's receiving yards? 

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nice record, but Gretzky has no peer, and its not even close

 

I live in the DC area, and Ovi scored a ton by burying a bunch of one timers from the top of the circle on the power play.. like hundreds of goals this way.. a little like Cook scoring a pile of TDs from inside the 10, makes the total TD count kind of misleading

 

The Great One is hundreds of points ahead of anyone else.. total team player.   multiple Stanley Cups , etc etc.  

 

Ovi is kind of like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice, amazing ability to score a ton but ....  

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All respect to Ovechkin, but there’s only one Gretzky. His points record will not be eclipsed. As for Bruce, forget about it. Will not happen, even with the increase in passing since the mid 90’s. No one playing currently has a realistic shot at it. Players also are retiring sooner. Ever is a long time , but it won’t be beaten. 

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20 minutes ago, Artem Lipatov said:

All sports world is impressed now by Ovechkin pass Gretzky's record which was considered as unbeatable forever.

What similar unattainable record in NFL can be broken in foreseeable future?

Bruce Smith's 200 sacks? Emmitt Smith rushing yards? Jerry Rice's receiving yards? 

No NFL records are unbreakable. They added a 17th game, and they will likely add an 18th. Not that you would know this because it's baseball, but the most unbreakable record in global sport is Cal Ripken's 2,632 consecutive game streak. In May 1982, Ripken missed the second game of a doubleheader. He didn't miss another game until 1998. They play 162 games a season and he never took a day off for 16 years. 

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40 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

nice record, but Gretzky has no peer, and its not even close

 

I live in the DC area, and Ovi scored a ton by burying a bunch of one timers from the top of the circle on the power play.. like hundreds of goals this way.. a little like Cook scoring a pile of TDs from inside the 10, makes the total TD count kind of misleading

 

The Great One is hundreds of points ahead of anyone else.. total team player.   multiple Stanley Cups , etc etc.  

 

Ovi is kind of like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice, amazing ability to score a ton but ....  

Gretzky also scored a ton against goalies basically using street hockey equipment and played in the free wheeling wide open 80s.   No need to diminish the goal record.  Ovechkin is the greatest goal scorer in NHL history.  Nobody considers him to be in the running for best player ever, obviously, but he has proven to be the best goal scorer.  There is nothing misleading about the goal record.  It is a phenomenal accomplishment.  

 

I think the sacks record is a decent comparison, actually.  If Garrett played at a high level into his late thirties, he could maybe challenge, but that is not likely.

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16 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

No NFL records are unbreakable. They added a 17th game, and they will likely add an 18th. Not that you would know this because it's baseball, but the most unbreakable record in global sport is Cal Ripken's 2,632 consecutive game streak. In May 1982, Ripken missed the second game of a doubleheader. He didn't miss another game until 1998. They play 162 games a season and he never took a day off for 16 years. 

 

And he was criticized for it by some because there were some games where he needed rest or was injured, but selfishly continued playing.

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1 minute ago, chongli said:

 

And he was criticized for it by some because there were some games where he needed rest or was injured, but selfishly continued playing.

People complain no matter what an athlete does. In these days of "load management," the feat is even more impressive. 

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28 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

No NFL records are unbreakable. They added a 17th game, and they will likely add an 18th. Not that you would know this because it's baseball, but the most unbreakable record in global sport is Cal Ripken's 2,632 consecutive game streak. In May 1982, Ripken missed the second game of a doubleheader. He didn't miss another game until 1998. They play 162 games a season and he never took a day off for 16 years. 

 

Or Cy Young's 749 complete games (the current active leader, Justin Verlander, has just 26)m

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34872477/ranking-most-unbreakable-records-sports-nfl-nba-nhl-mlb

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13 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

People complain no matter what an athlete does. In these days of "load management," the feat is even more impressive. 

Fans complain about a player not chasing a championship and going for the money. Kevin Durant chased a championship when he signed with Golden State and fans acted like he was the biggest POS in NBA history.

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3 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

nice record, but Gretzky has no peer, and its not even close

 

I live in the DC area, and Ovi scored a ton by burying a bunch of one timers from the top of the circle on the power play.. like hundreds of goals this way.. a little like Cook scoring a pile of TDs from inside the 10, makes the total TD count kind of misleading

 

The Great One is hundreds of points ahead of anyone else.. total team player.   multiple Stanley Cups , etc etc.  

 

Ovi is kind of like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice, amazing ability to score a ton but ....  

Gretzky is arguably the GOAT for hockey, no disagreement there.

 

But Ovechkins goal record is legit. You make it sound like scoring one timers from the top of the circle is easy- If it were, every team would have a 50 plus goal guy every year.  He has a feel to get open on power plays, and his shot is lethal

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1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:

nice record, but Gretzky has no peer, and its not even close

 

I live in the DC area, and Ovi scored a ton by burying a bunch of one timers from the top of the circle on the power play.. like hundreds of goals this way.. a little like Cook scoring a pile of TDs from inside the 10, makes the total TD count kind of misleading

 

The Great One is hundreds of points ahead of anyone else.. total team player.   multiple Stanley Cups , etc etc.  

 

Ovi is kind of like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice, amazing ability to score a ton but ....  

This means absolutely nothing-who cares how he scored the goals? I have been seeing this argument for days now, that somehow his goals count less because he scored so many from one spot. His jib is to score goals, if everyone knows that’s where he shoots from, how come they can’t stop him? 
 

we have such a weird sports society where we always look to diminish greatness for some reason. Tiger in his prime, this whole LeBron vs Jordan debate, Obi apparently scoring too many power play goals….people just need to appreciate greatness while it’s happening 

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16 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Gretzky is arguably GOAT for hockey, no disagreement there.

 

But Ovechkins goal record is legit. You make it sound like scoring one timers from the top of the circle is easy- If it were, every team would have a 50 plus goal guy every year.  He has a feel to get open on power plays, and his shot is lethal
 

Ovechkin also played in the dead puck era, and it was sooo much easier to score when Wayne was playing

wasn’t the “dead puck era” the early 90’s up until the 2004-2005 lockout?

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Ovi isn’t the greatest goal scorer of all time, he was able to score a lot of goals for a very long time, he’s proven to be the most consistent goal scorer over a long time. It’s an amazing accomplishment but there’s been more skilled goal scorers, even Gretzky recognized many players who were more skilled goal scorers than himself while he was playing.

 

 Heck, Auston Matthews is on pace to break 894 goals in 9 years and be only 36yrs old compared to Ovi doing it at 39yrs of age.

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