Big Turk Posted April 7 Posted April 7 they should all be fired immediately after pressing the button if that happens. 2 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:  I think there are three. The third is Jeanty. I think he's a stud I don't think he's in the Barkley , Henry , territory  30 carries a hundred yards against Penn State kind of dropped his stock slightly in my eyes .. like I don't think he's a guaranteed 10,000 yard rusher in the NFL  And if you're taking a kid top ten you're definitely looking for years of production which is always scary with running backs 1 Quote
mannc Posted April 7 Posted April 7 The Giants are taking Abdul Carter.  They would be idiots to trade out of that pick.  He’s the best edge prospect since Nick Bosa. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 7 Posted April 7 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I think he's a stud I don't think he's in the Barkley , Henry , territory  30 carries a hundred yards against Penn State kind of dropped his stock slightly in my eyes .. like I don't think he's a guaranteed 10,000 yard rusher in the NFL  And if you're taking a kid top ten you're definitely looking for years of production which is always scary with running backs  I take that point to an extent. But this top 10 isn't like many other top 10s. The opportunity cost of a stud running back isn't that high this time because there just aren't that many must have guys in this class. I think it is a decent draft with some good depth in spots. But it lacks top 10/15 types. 2 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted April 7 Posted April 7 3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: I could see Joe Schoen trading down slightly from Pick #3, maybe down the the 8 - 11 spot, get some nice draft capital to acquire more players and take Ashton Jeanty at the 8 - 11 spot. They're kicking themselves for letting Saquon walk last year. This gives them a generational talent at RB and more draft capital to move back up and take a rookie QB to develop if they desire.  JMO This sounds logical, the Eagles will need a new RB when Saquon retires in 5 years.  Giants thinking they can win without a franchise QB is why they’ve sucked since Eli retired.  Keep drafting skill players with top 5 picks, it’s working great for you. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:  I take that point to an extent. But this top 10 isn't like many other top 10s. The opportunity cost of a stud running back isn't that high this time because there just aren't that many must have guys in this class. I think it is a decent draft with some good depth in spots. But it lacks top 10/15 types. I hear you and I think he's super super talented  He has a great build, and I like a shorter running back Quote
Einstein Posted April 7 Posted April 7 4 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: I could see Joe Schoen trading down slightly from Pick #3, maybe down the the 8 - 11 spot, get some nice draft capital to acquire more players and take Ashton Jeanty at the 8 - 11 spot. They're kicking themselves for letting Saquon walk last year. This gives them a generational talent at RB and more draft capital to move back up and take a rookie QB to develop if they desire. Â JMO Â There is ZERO percent chance of this happening. Â Schoen would be chased out of town with *literal* pitchforks, if he drafted a RB after letting Saquan leave and win a SB at a rival. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 7 Posted April 7 30 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I hear you and I think he's super super talented  He has a great build, and I like a shorter running back  Like if someone took him before Hunter, Carter or Ward (who isn't a better prospect but is a Quarterback) I think they'd deserve criticism. But before anyone else.... yea I'd struggle to crab it in this class. 1 Quote
H2o Posted April 7 Posted April 7 I wouldn't do it personally. But do they believe that's what is preventing them making the Playoffs, a RB? Without a marked improvement, I imagine both Schoen and Daboll are gone. It's a big risk to take. Quote
BringBackFergy Posted April 7 Author Posted April 7 4 hours ago, FireChans said: It would be so Giants to pass on QBs for RBs in the top 10 for the second time in 7 years and wonder why they suck so bad. That’s assuming the QB’s you’re referring to are worth a #3 overall selection. Watch what happens. 40 minutes ago, Einstein said:  There is ZERO percent chance of this happening.  Schoen would be chased out of town with *literal* pitchforks, if he drafted a RB after letting Saquan leave and win a SB at a rival. You understand I didn’t say they take Jeanty at #3, right? He can garner good draft capital by moving down 4 or 5 spots and take him at 8-10. Quote
Einstein Posted April 7 Posted April 7 38 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: . You understand I didn’t say they take Jeanty at #3, right? He can garner good draft capital by moving down 4 or 5 spots and take him at 8-10.  I don’t care if they took him with 30th pick. There is zero chance 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted April 7 Posted April 7 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: That’s assuming the QB’s you’re referring to are worth a #3 overall selection. Watch what happens certainly no good QB’s came out of 2018 when they took Barkley lol Quote
FireChans Posted April 7 Posted April 7 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Letting highly drafted RBs walk just to immediately use more high draft resources on replacing said RB is definitely something loser teams (Jets/Giants) would do.  Hint, hint Correct which is why you never draft RBs high. 1 Quote
chongli Posted April 7 Posted April 7 (edited) The title should be tweaked a little to include "hot take" or "draft day prediction" or the like so someone doesn't think the OP has inside information and this has really happened (will happen). Edited April 7 by chongli 1 Quote
FireChans Posted April 7 Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, chongli said: The title should be tweaked a little to include "hot take" or "draft day prediction" or the like so someone doesn't think the OP has inside information and this has really happened (will happen). You should have seen the treatise @BringBackFergy did on Tyrod struggling years ago. The guy is one of the sharpest football minds we have. Quote
BringBackFergy Posted April 7 Author Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, chongli said: The title should be tweaked a little to include "hot take" or "draft day prediction" or the like so someone doesn't think the OP has inside information and this has really happened (will happen). Yeah. Ok. Is it draft day yet?? Ease up.  Just now, FireChans said: You should have seen the treatise @BringBackFergy did on Tyrod struggling years ago. The guy is one of the sharpest football minds we have. Did Tyrod take us to the playoffs after 18 years of stale chips? Yes. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 8 Posted April 8 17 hours ago, FireChans said: It would be so Giants to pass on QBs for RBs in the top 10 for the second time in 7 years and wonder why they suck so bad.  You wouldn't even have to put this into Schoen's small brain. it's likely rattling around in there already like a maraca. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted April 8 Posted April 8 13 hours ago, FireChans said: certainly no good QB’s came out of 2018 when they took Barkley lol What's so bad about that pick is that Eli was horrible the year before (19 Tds 13 INTS). To the point he was benched for Geno Smith.  The owner stepped in and reinstated Eli as starter and then doubled down and had them pick Barkley (who was a great player) instead of drafting a QB. Even if they had swung and missed, that still would have been the right call Quote
MJS Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Can they really be dumb enough to do that AGAIN? That really worked out so well with Barkley, didn't it? Quote
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