Thoughts on Attempting to Obtain 4 2025 2nd Round Draft Picks?

[JP51]

On 4/6/2025 at 12:58 PM, MJS said:

Sounds like a Madden trade

Or a Ditka trade LOL 

[damj]

19 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

 

You could NOT help yourself and give a Ditka of a response eh?

I find Ditka is a perfect answer for most questions... 

 

Who could beat Superman in a fight? 

 

Who's the greatest coach of all time? 

 

Who did you lose your virginity to? 

[Pete]

2 hours ago, JP51 said:

Or a Ditka trade LOL 

lol the gift that kept giving!

 

 2004 me and my friends fantasy football league , very competitive.  My buddy Steve is a Dolphins fan.  It was a keeper league.  He kept Ricky Williams.  Ricky had big seasons in 2002 and 2003. We had our fantasy draft.  Steve was counting on Ricky big in fantasy football and because he’s a Dolphins fan.   
 

A couple days after our draft, and days before opening day, Ricky retires, moves to Australia, does Yoga and smokes Weed.  The Dolphins, and the world are stunned.  Earth shattering to the Dolphins 😂 

 

I call Steve- did you hear about Ricky?” No, what? He quit on the Dolphins, so he can smoke weed and do yoga! 😂 “. “***** ***** *****!”  Ricky retiring sunk the Dolphins, and Steve’s Fantasy Football team.  Double whammy!  😂 

 

 

First Retirement (2004):

Williams announced his retirement in 2004, just days before the start of the Dolphins' training camp. He had a successful 2002 and 2003 season with the Dolphins. 

Reasons for Retirement:

Williams stated that he retired due to a combination of factors, including a desire to find himself, feeling his athletic ability was declining, and the poor play of the Dolphins' quarterbacks. He also mentioned the over-reliance on him by the Dolphins. 
 

 

Ricky Williams does not conform to America's definition of the modern athlete. In 2004, with rumors of another positive marijuana test looming, the Miami Dolphins running back traded adulation and a mansion in South Florida for anonymity and a seven dollars a night tent in Australia. His decision created a media frenzy that dismantled his reputation and branded him as America's Pothead. But while most in the media thought Williams was ruining his life by leaving football, Ricky thought he was saving it.

[Don Otreply]

Concerning the thread title;

 

Does anyone really care? 

[JP51]

30 minutes ago, Pete said:

lol the gift that kept giving!

 

 2004 me and my friends fantasy football league , very competitive.  My buddy Steve is a Dolphins fan.  It was a keeper league.  He kept Ricky Williams.  Ricky had big seasons in 2002 and 2003. We had our fantasy draft.  Steve was counting on Ricky big in fantasy football and because he’s a Dolphins fan.   
 

A couple days after our draft, and days before opening day, Ricky retires, moves to Australia, does Yoga and smokes Weed.  The Dolphins, and the world are stunned.  Earth shattering to the Dolphins 😂 

 

I call Steve- did you hear about Ricky?” No, what? He quit on the Dolphins, so he can smoke weed and do yoga! 😂 “. “***** ***** *****!”  Ricky retiring sunk the Dolphins, and Steve’s Fantasy Football team.  Double whammy!  😂 

 

 

First Retirement (2004):

Williams announced his retirement in 2004, just days before the start of the Dolphins' training camp. He had a successful 2002 and 2003 season with the Dolphins. 

Reasons for Retirement:

Williams stated that he retired due to a combination of factors, including a desire to find himself, feeling his athletic ability was declining, and the poor play of the Dolphins' quarterbacks. He also mentioned the over-reliance on him by the Dolphins. 
 

 

Ricky Williams does not conform to America's definition of the modern athlete. In 2004, with rumors of another positive marijuana test looming, the Miami Dolphins running back traded adulation and a mansion in South Florida for anonymity and a seven dollars a night tent in Australia. His decision created a media frenzy that dismantled his reputation and branded him as America's Pothead. But while most in the media thought Williams was ruining his life by leaving football, Ricky thought he was saving it.

Its funny, I wont say most, but a lot of folks believe that money isnt everything and cant buy you happiness... yets when someone walks the walk he gets ostracized. 

[Pete]

1 hour ago, JP51 said:

Its funny, I wont say most, but a lot of folks believe that money isnt everything and cant buy you happiness... yets when someone walks the walk he gets ostracized. 

Run Ricky Run is an excellent 30 for 30 episode.  Ricky seemed so chill and relaxed, and logical 

[HIT BY SPIKES]

2 hours ago, Pete said:

Run Ricky Run is an excellent 30 for 30 episode.  Ricky seemed so chill and relaxed, and logical 

 

Smoking weed can do that to a person.

[Thrivefourfive]

If you have four 2nd round picks, you’re probably getting guys who belong in the 2nd round 3/4ths the time, at best. Factor in Beane. I’m not sure what to think of Beane having more R2 picks, or even R1 picks. He’ll pick some average 2nd rounders.. and maybe a good one? 

[Ralonzo]

On 4/9/2025 at 6:06 PM, Victory Formation said:

I’d like us to trade #30 and #62 to go as high as we can to take Kenneth Grant. Say what you want but he’d fix our DL.

 

Grant's been trending down in mocks. He could make it to 30 and even if he doesn't there's Tyleik and Collins and West and more. Unless it's a small move for a Harmon if he should make it to 25 or 26, nah. Certainly not worth spending a 1 and a 2.

[Victory Formation]

2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Grant's been trending down in mocks. He could make it to 30 and even if he doesn't there's Tyleik and Collins and West and more. Unless it's a small move for a Harmon if he should make it to 25 or 26, nah. Certainly not worth spending a 1 and a 2.

I love Tyleik Williams if Kenneth Grant and Derrick Harmon are gone. Either of the three would be excellent. I think Grant has Marcell Dareus type of potential.

Edited Friday at 12:52 AM by Victory Formation

[Ralonzo]

1 minute ago, Victory Formation said:

I think Grant has Marcell Dareus type of potential.

That's funny in this thread because Dareus had Ricky Williams type of potential.

[Victory Formation]

3 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

That's funny in this thread because Dareus had Ricky Williams type of potential.

A motivated Marcell Dareus was deadly. I compare Kenneth Grant to Marcell Dareus from a physical standpoint only.

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

 

Smoking weed can do that to a person.

really ?

I might want to check it out lol

 That stuff used to make me anxious.

14 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Grant's been trending down in mocks. He could make it to 30 and even if he doesn't there's Tyleik and Collins and West and more. Unless it's a small move for a Harmon if he should make it to 25 or 26, nah. Certainly not worth spending a 1 and a 2.

There are options if Grant doesn't line up.

 Trading a lil bit never hurt no one.

Just get me a Beast who owns the middle of that line of scrimmage and I will stfu  😉

14 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

I love Tyleik Williams if Kenneth Grant and Derrick Harmon are gone. Either of the three would be excellent. I think Grant has Marcell Dareus type of potential.

thats a loaded opinion

Which Marcel? The Ship Captain Dareus or the Marcel we drafted originally. Cuz that guy is was pretty alright !

[finn]

On 4/6/2025 at 12:55 PM, Virgil said:

For a draft with very few first round talent grades, I would be fine with this.  
 

However, I’m also fine with trading a 2nd and 1st to move up for a defensive game wrecker.  
 

Do you have anyone in mind? 

[JP51]

16 hours ago, Pete said:

Run Ricky Run is an excellent 30 for 30 episode.  Ricky seemed so chill and relaxed, and logical 

He really kind of is... like there is no doubt he walks to the beat of his own drum... but he likes his drum and he doesnt care if you dont LOL...  I just dont think the average person can fathom who would walk away from millions and millions and all of the adulation... but I guess he was never about money and is quite introverted.. so he is happy .... good for him. 

[HIT BY SPIKES]

Should I do the work and actually attach names to a Bills 2025 Draft of four 2nd round picks and whatever is left late after the trades needed to obtain four 2nd round picks?

 

If you push me, I will do it.

 

I work well under pressure.

 

 

[HIT BY SPIKES]

Using this ==>. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

 

Our two 2nd round picks => 56th = 340 points and 62nd = 284 points

 

Our 1st round pick => 30th = 620 points

 

Our two 4th round picks => 109th = 76 points and 132nd = 40 points

 

Our three 6th round picks => 169th = 23.8 points and 170th = 23.4 points and 173rd = 22.2 points`

 

Total points available to attempt to trade for four 2nd round picks = 1,429.4 points

 

2nd round picks range from 580 points (33rd) to 270 points (270th)

 

Therefore we certainly have the resources to obtain four 2nd round picks assuming we find willing trade partners.

[HIT BY SPIKES]

AFTER THE TRADES HIT BY SPIKES 2ND ROUND ONLY MOCK DRAFT 

 

 

OT EMERY JONES JR LSU

 

WR ISAIAH BOND TEXAS

 

DE SHEMAR TURNER TEXAS A & M

 

1DT DEONE WALKER KENTUCKY

[Bill from NYC]

Bad idea because this draft sucks, or at least it appears that way. If anything perhaps we can trade back into 2026 in some way.

Edited Saturday at 10:57 AM by Bill from NYC

[3rdand12]

7 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Bad idea because this draft sucks, or at least it appears that way. If anything perhaps we can trade back into 2026 in some way.

win now Bill. Not the offseason to develop players from the first two rounds.

There are enough impact players at key positions Bills could have access to in those rounds. I might imagine two locks on defense if Beane plays his cards well.

BTW I am not one for trading to 20 in the first. But twenty 7 ? I am going to look hard at that.  (of course those are subjective picks ) 

 Rather add another early second and haul in three starters.