Thoughts on Attempting to Obtain 4 2025 2nd Round Draft Picks?

[MJS]

Just now, Jauronimo said:

I read an article about a guy who started with a paper clip and through a series of trades ended up with a used Dodge Caravan.  Anything is possible.

He stopped with a used Dodge Caravan? He should have kept going.

[Jauronimo]

34 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Whaley traded them Mahomes

Beane was still in Carolina

Whaley was a lame duck GM who had zero authority in that draft.  He was following orders, specifically to defer the QB decision and let the incoming GM pick his own guy in the next draft.  

[HIT BY SPIKES]

3 hours ago, DCofNC said:

He is still one of my all time favorite Bills, he was absolutely awesome when he was here.  He is one big man, there is no denying that, in today’s league he probably would be called an EDGE and be primarily used as a DE or OLB in a 34.  I could see him being an absolute menace if he was used like Parsons etc.  I feel like he was actually quite underrated, his first 6 seasons he had over 100 tackles, injuries got to him, but he was an absolute monster.

 

Yeah it seemed to be one injury after another.

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Whaley was a lame duck GM who had zero authority in that draft.  He was following orders, specifically to defer the QB decision and let the incoming GM pick his own guy in the next draft.  

 

What does that have to do with Beane?

 

Are you trying to claim that Beane gave the order to trade the Mahomes pick from the Panther draft room?

I assume not - which is why i’m confused by your post. My point stands - Beane did not make that decision.

[Jauronimo]

21 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

What does that have to do with Beane?

 

Are you trying to claim that Beane gave the order to trade the Mahomes pick from the Panther draft room?

I assume not - which is why i’m confused by your post. My point stands - Beane did not make that decision.

It has nothing to do with Beane.  Which is why I didn't mention Beane.

 

Your point does not stand because Whaley didn't make the decision.

[Pete]

Four 2nd round picks costs too much IMO.  I like to load up on top 100, and top 150 picks.  I would like a 3rd round pick.   And I’d like to see some picks traded- one of our 4ths, for a 2026 3rd for example 

 

Beane has plenty of ammo.  No way are Bills selecting 169, 170, 173, 177
Round 1: No. 30 overall 

Round 2: No. 56 overall (from Vikings through Texans) 

Round 2: No. 62 overall 

Round 4: No. 109 overall (from Bears) 

Round 4: No. 132 overall 

Round 5: No. 169 overall (Compensatory Selection) 

Round 5: No. 170 overall (from Cowboys; Compensatory Selection) 

Round 5: No. 173 overall (Compensatory Selection) 

Round 6: No. 177 overall (from Giants) 

Round 6: No. 206 overall

 

[Einstein]

50 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

It has nothing to do with Beane.  Which is why I didn't mention Beane.

 

Your point does not stand because Whaley didn't make the decision.

 

Semantics.

 

The point of the post had nothing to do with Whaley. The point of the post was that Beane didn’t make that decision. 

 

Had I known you would be so offended and wanting to defend Whaley’s honor, I would have made that abundantly clear (though i think everyone else understood the point except for you)

[Jauronimo]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

Semantics.

 

The point of the post had nothing to do with Whaley. The point of the post was that Beane didn’t make that decision. 

 

Had I known you would be so offended and wanting to defend Whaley’s honor, I would have made that abundantly clear (though i think everyone else understood the point except for you)

You need to relax.  You're far too emotional about Doug Whaley and you're going to give yourself skin failure. 

 

Doug didn't make any trades.  He carried out orders.

[ganesh]

9 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Whaley traded them Mahomes

Beane was still in Carolina

Sean McDermott traded them Mahomes as he was not ready to get his franchise QB yet. 

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

I'd like to see them trade back enough to get EVERY SINGLE PICK OF THE 5TH ROUND!

 

Watching it on TV would be awesome.  "And with the 116th pick the Bills, yet again, choose..."

[damj]

On 4/6/2025 at 12:51 PM, HIT BY SPIKES said:

My reading for what it is worth is that the 2nd round is particularly deep with plenty of "value" this year.

 

We already pick twice in the 2nd round at #56 and #62.

 

Our 1st round pick at #30 is essence a high 2nd round pick.

 

What do you think if we trade our 1st round pick and our two 4th round picks (#109 and #132) plus our three 5th round picks (#169, #170 and #173) in a series of trades so we end up with four 2nd round picks?

 

That would still leave us with our two 6th round picks (#177 and #206) for flyers.

 

I just think this team's roster is currently too deep for a 4th or 5th round drafted player to make the line up unless he is a specialist of some sort.

 

On the other hand, we may NOT get four 2025 starters from four 2nd round picks but we very well may get 4 starters by 2026.

 

Four 2nd round picks could get the Bills a DT, a OL, a WR....whatever that would either start in 2025 or rotate in enough to become a starter in 2025.

I think we should trade all our picks to move up and draft a RB. 

 

Sincerely, 

Mike Ditka

[billsfan89]

The NFL is the ultimate Quantity over Quality (outside of QB) league. I know it’s easy to look at the Bills roster which doesn’t have many glaring holes and think adding 3-4 higher end prospects will be what the team needs.

 

However, I think the Bills will have 7-9 roster spots where rookies can make the roster but are needed for depth/development.

 

Looking at the roster and I can see the following areas where rookies can make the roster.

 

1- Corner - Probably the teams only glaring need

2- DT- A less glaring need but a need

3- EDGE- AJE and Bosa are free agents need for depth and development.

4- Safety- Hamlin and Forest are on one year deals development is needed.

5- WR- Bills could use more short term pop and depth while also having a player develop.

6- LB - Milano is older and the Bills LB’s frequently banged up more depth here is needed.

7- TE3- A bit niche but the Bills don’t have Morris so they need something behind Knox/Kincaid

8- Punter- Bills punting options aren’t great could use a body here.

9- Offensive line- Team is set 1-9 along the offensive line but they usually carry ten. Always good to cycle in another oline prospect. 

 

I would also argue the Bills could roster a second drafted corner and DT. It’s a roster that in addition to the 4 front line needs at DT/CB/WR/DE has 4-5 depth/development needs at S/LB/DT/CB/TE/OL and a niche need at

punter.

[BillsFanForever19]

I don't see all *that* happening. 

 

But I could see a scenario where they trade out of the 1st Round to the top of the 2nd, pick up another pick, have 3 picks in the 2nd Round - then move up from the 4th into the 3rd with extra picks. Having 3 2nd's and a 3rd, while still having quite a bit in Rounds 4-6.

[HIT BY SPIKES]

3 hours ago, damj said:

I think we should trade all our picks to move up and draft a RB. 

 

Sincerely, 

Mike Ditka

 

You could NOT help yourself and give a Ditka of a response eh?

[HIT BY SPIKES]

1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

I don't see all *that* happening. 

 

But I could see a scenario where they trade out of the 1st Round to the top of the 2nd, pick up another pick, have 3 picks in the 2nd Round - then move up from the 4th into the 3rd with extra picks. Having 3 2nd's and a 3rd, while still having quite a bit in Rounds 4-6.

 

Right!!

 

Get as many picks in this draft's sweet spot however some here think there is a chance of finding that diamond in the rough in the 5th or 6th rounds where I suspect unpolished turds is the reality in those rounds and you know what they say about polishing a turd.

 

 

 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I would keep the 1st rounder and trade every 4th, 5th and 6th rounder to move back into the 3rd round at least.

 

Bills don't have good picks this year and not a single 3rd rounder.

 

4th, 5th and 6th rounders won't even make this roster

[BillsFanForever19]

5 minutes ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:

 

Right!!

 

Get as many picks in this draft's sweet spot however some here think there is a chance of finding that diamond in the rough in the 5th or 6th rounds where I suspect unpolished turds is the reality in those rounds and you know what they say about polishing a turd.

 

 

 

 

That's why OP's idea of giving up like everything above Round 6 on Day 3 doesn't really track with me. 4th's and later don't often become stars. But you never know when you're going to land on a Khalil Shakir, Taron Johnson, Matt Milano, or Christian Benford. So you don't want to just say "F it - take a million of these picks".

 

We'll definitely move around the board as we don't need 10 picks. But we will be leaning on this Draft more than I expected. We didn't do as much as I expected in Free Agency and then the suspensions came in for Hoecht and Ogunjobi. So we won't need 10. But we're not in a position to just be like "take 4 players in the 2nd and call it a day". 

 

That's why if I were to see something like what OP is suggesting - it would make more sense to trade down, pick up an 11th pick, and then move 2 or 3 in Rounds 4 and/or 5 to get back into the 3rd. Still maintaining picks in 4 and 5. You could move up in those Rounds too if there's guys he likes. 

[Victory Formation]

I’d like us to trade #30 and #62 to go as high as we can to take Kenneth Grant. Say what you want but he’d fix our DL.

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I would keep the 1st rounder and trade every 4th, 5th and 6th rounder to move back into the 3rd round at least.

 

Bills don't have good picks this year and not a single 3rd rounder.

 

4th, 5th and 6th rounders won't even make this roster

 

In Year 1 - 5th's are almost never cut outright, 4th's are never cut. Take a look at our past Draft's and you'll see that. It's Round's 6 and 7 that are on the bubble in Year 1.

 

Like I said, we don't need 10 picks. But this idea that we don't need Day 3 picks or more than a few picks because the roster is just stacked is simply not true. On open roster spots for Week 1 alone, there's:

 

1 WR (lost Cooper and Hollins, replaced 1 spot with Palmer)

1 TE (lost Morris)

1 DE (lost Miller and Smoot, replaced both spots with Bosa and Hoecht - but Hoecht suspended)

2-3 DT (lost Johnson, Jefferson, and Phillips, replaced 1 spot with Ogunjobi - but Ogunjobi suspended)

1 CB (lost Douglas and Elam, replaced 1 spot with Jackson)

 

And that's not even taking into account positions like LB and S, where they could look to upgrade depth (or more in terms of Safety) from. Or another CB if they liked someone more than Dane Jackson. We could easily find room for a full Draft this year and guys in the 4th or 5th would definitely make this team. And for a number of those spots, we need big help.

 

We'll be leaning on this Draft way more than you're giving it credit for.

Edited Wednesday at 11:03 PM by BillsFanForever19

[HIT BY SPIKES]

7 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I would keep the 1st rounder and trade every 4th, 5th and 6th rounder to move back into the 3rd round at least.

 

Bills don't have good picks this year and not a single 3rd rounder.

 

4th, 5th and 6th rounders won't even make this roster

 

Wise

7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

That's why OP's idea of giving up like everything above Round 6 on Day 3 doesn't really track with me. 4th's and later don't often become stars. But you never know when you're going to land on a Khalil Shakir, Taron Johnson, Matt Milano, or Christian Benford. So you don't want to just say "F it - take a million of these picks".

 

We'll definitely move around the board as we don't need 10 picks. But we will be leaning on this Draft more than I expected. We didn't do as much as I expected in Free Agency and then the suspensions came in for Hoecht and Ogunjobi. So we won't need 10. But we're not in a position to just be like "take 4 players in the 2nd and call it a day". 

 

That's why if I were to see something like what OP is suggesting - it would make more sense to trade down, pick up an 11th pick, and then move 2 or 3 in Rounds 4 and/or 5 to get back into the 3rd. Still maintaining picks in 4 and 5. You could move up in those Rounds too if there's guys he likes. 

 

I am THE OP.

7 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

I’d like us to trade #30 and #62 to go as high as we can to take Kenneth Grant. Say what you want but he’d fix our DL.

 

Careful or you will be accused of living in a "Madden" World.