Captain Hindsight Posted April 7 Posted April 7 17 hours ago, Trust The Process said: I beg to differ. Tennessee selects Ward first overall. Sanders will most likely not get past the Giants. If so, Hunter or Carter will be available with the Patriots 4th overall pick I don't think Giants are taking a QB. Daboll's seat is hotter than the sun right now. He needs to win now. Hence why they signed two vet QBs Seeing teams sign Vet QBs like that at the top of the draft tells me they don't think highly of this class. 3 2 Quote
Mango Posted April 7 Posted April 7 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Sanders isnt good enough to demand where he goes Somebody should tell that to Prime. (I don't disagree with you) Edited April 7 by Mango 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted April 7 Posted April 7 21 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Or they know all they need and will pick him. BUT... A really good friend of mine is a Raiders fan, and although he says they need a QB to develop, he doesn't want Sanders. I said why? He said Deion. I agree with him, whomever takes that kid is going to have to deal with Deion and that might be a bit much. I think Shedeur is reason enough to stay away from Shedeur. I see a spoiled brat with zero leadership qualities and no accountability. Stranger things have happened, but I will be absolutely shocked if this kid demonstrates any ability to mature or handle the adversity that is coming at the next level. "Look at my watch" is not going to earn the respect of an NFL locker room. But it will be a pretty funny sack dance and one I expect to see early and often. 2 3 Quote
dpberr Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Whichever team selects Sanders should take a patient approach: let him sit, observe for a year, absorb the game, and tune out the noise coming from Pops. He's talented but the CU approach to generating offense (a billion passes every game, let's not run the football...at all) isn't a winner in the NFL. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 7 Posted April 7 19 hours ago, Trust The Process said: I beg to differ. Tennessee selects Ward first overall. Sanders will most likely not get past the Giants. If so, Hunter or Carter will be available with the Patriots 4th overall pick A Giants QB room of Sanders, Russ, Crab Legs, and Tommy Cutlets would be a gift that we probably don't deserve... 4 Quote
The Jokeman Posted April 7 Posted April 7 7 hours ago, Mango said: Somebody should tell that to Prime. (I don't disagree with you) Prime changed his stance and now happy wherever Shedeur gets drafted. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44433663/deion-sanders-happy-wherever-shedeur-sanders-drafted 1 Quote
wppete Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Have a feeling Sanders is going somewhere in the 20s or even drop into the top of the Second Round. Quote
ProcessTruster Posted April 7 Posted April 7 (edited) this draft class looks pretty crappy for big potential players compared to other years sucks to be the Titans; tough year to have the #1 pick Edited April 7 by ProcessTruster Quote
appoo Posted April 8 Posted April 8 10 hours ago, dpberr said: Whichever team selects Sanders should take a patient approach: let him sit, observe for a year, absorb the game, and tune out the noise coming from Pops. He's talented but the CU approach to generating offense (a billion passes every game, let's not run the football...at all) isn't a winner in the NFL. This isn’t issue. On one hand I think he’s a very ready made pro QB. His field vision, his processing, his activity under pressure, all of these are really good to great. He’s got elite ball placement and touch as well. His issue is that his arm talent is good but not great and he’s a really poor athlete with little lower body burst (which is nuts to say about the kid of Deion Sanders). Ultimately I like the Tua comps for him. Where people think Tua should be drafted is a different question Quote
Richard Noggin Posted April 8 Posted April 8 On 4/6/2025 at 1:12 PM, Mango said: THIS! I also think this is less about the Titans likeing or disliking Shedeur. And more about him trying to pick where he goes. Kind of like Eli. I wouldn't be shocked if they met and Sanders camp said "we're not coming if you draft us". But I also think there's a nonzero chance that the Giants grab Sanders, Deion is the HC for the 2026 season, and both parties have already talked about it. How is this level of plotting possible without the current Giants HC catching wind? It's just not something Daboll would passively endure. On 4/6/2025 at 3:04 PM, mjt328 said: Somewhat unrelated, but I can’t help but come away unimpressed with any QB prospects nowadays. After watching Josh Allen every week for 5-6 months, everyone’s arm and athletic ability just seems average. People are gushing over Cam Ward, and to me he just looks meh. Allen is as close to a physically perfect QB as we've ever seen in the NFL (who can also play). I wish he was better at processing and adjusting to Spags' pressure packages, but at least some portion of that falls on coaching and the weekly toolbox he's provided. Ward DOES have a super fast release and a live arm. So "meh" is not how I'd describe him as a prospect. I don't study college fb enough to go beyond traits with much confidence. How's his pocket presence and manipulation? I think pocket presence is a more and more important indicator these days, as physically talented guys who can't play under pressure or escape a pocket without bailing out the back door are no bueno (Geno Smith, Will Levis, etc.). Mahomes, when bothered by pressure/collapsing pockets, regresses in this way from time to time. Drifting backwards was a big tendency in college. (Unfortunately he's learned to overcome that tendency more often than not.) 1 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted April 8 Posted April 8 13 hours ago, Mango said: Somebody should tell that to Prime. (I don't disagree with you) Yup daddy says he and Hunter should go 1-2in draft.. the guys an absolute tone deaf 🚁 dad 1 Quote
BillsFan4 Posted Sunday at 03:14 PM Posted Sunday at 03:14 PM I didn’t want to start a new thread for this so I figured I’d just share it here. https://www.on3.com/college/colorado-buffaloes/news/colorado-unveils-travis-hunter-shedeur-sanders-retired-numbers-at-folsom-field/ what a joke. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted Sunday at 03:18 PM Posted Sunday at 03:18 PM 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: I didn’t want to start a new thread for this so I figured I’d just share it here. https://www.on3.com/college/colorado-buffaloes/news/colorado-unveils-travis-hunter-shedeur-sanders-retired-numbers-at-folsom-field/ what a joke. Everything Deion and his family do is a joke. He is a grifter and always has been. I know some people that dealt with him personally in a business situation and he is awful. He doesn't hide it either he is right out front with it. I can't wait to watch shedur get the shedur kicked out of him in the nfl and then watch him blame his teammates. I feel for whatever coach gets stuck with him because he will probably be fired within two years and then Deion will be the coach there. The Raiders are the perfect landing spot. Owner is a moron, their fans are mostly morons and The Sanders family are morons. Its a perfect match. 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted Sunday at 03:22 PM Posted Sunday at 03:22 PM (edited) On 4/7/2025 at 5:55 PM, The Jokeman said: Prime changed his stance and now happy wherever Shedeur gets drafted. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44433663/deion-sanders-happy-wherever-shedeur-sanders-drafted Yeah, because he figured out teams aren't as enthused about Shedeur as he thought they'd be and implying that you won't play for more than half the league doesn't improve his draftability. I wouldn't touch Sanders. First, I dont think he's that great. Second, he's been shepherded though his entire life and never really faced competition at his position or the prospect of being benched if he doesn't perform . Third, I have zero interest in the circus that comes with him. Deion will be riding sidecar at all times and if you don't think that he won't use his bully pulpit to be a problem if things don't go the way he wants you're nuts. There is no chance that Deion sits quiet if Shedeur is sitting for a year while another QB is out there stinking it up and it might actually be worse if the other QB is having a good season and endangering Shedeur's carefully curated path to a starting job even more. Edited Sunday at 03:31 PM by That's No Moon 1 Quote
RochesterLifer Posted Sunday at 04:16 PM Posted Sunday at 04:16 PM On 4/7/2025 at 9:02 PM, appoo said: This isn’t issue. On one hand I think he’s a very ready made pro QB. His field vision, his processing, his activity under pressure, all of these are really good to great. He’s got elite ball placement and touch as well. His issue is that his arm talent is good but not great and he’s a really poor athlete with little lower body burst (which is nuts to say about the kid of Deion Sanders). Ultimately I like the Tua comps for him. Where people think Tua should be drafted is a different question There's that word again. "Elite" is the most overused and least understood term on this board. Beyond his father's bank account, there is nothing elite pertaining to Shedeur Sanders. "Very good" may apply in college, but is probably a stretch when compared to NFL quarterbacks. Quote
wakingfane Posted Tuesday at 12:18 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:18 AM I didn't know that Deion's son was a player, let alone a top prospect - just not a college fan and haven't been following the draft this year. But I've watched a lot of football in my time... just watched Sanders' highlights. I would say he has IT. Goes through his progressions, scans the whole field, starts scrambling at the exact right time, keeps his head up downfield, scrambles pretty well when needed, places the ball accurately all over the field. Can't ask for much more than that. His windup is a tad slow but that's my only criticism. Quote
Yard Monkey Posted Tuesday at 12:32 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:32 AM 12 minutes ago, wakingfane said: I didn't know that Deion's son was a player, let alone a top prospect - just not a college fan and haven't been following the draft this year. But I've watched a lot of football in my time... just watched Sanders' highlights. I would say he has IT. Goes through his progressions, scans the whole field, starts scrambling at the exact right time, keeps his head up downfield, scrambles pretty well when needed, places the ball accurately all over the field. Can't ask for much more than that. His windup is a tad slow but that's my only criticism. It’s not all roses. He also has a fairly weak arm, limited mobility and has demonstrated poor leadership skills. I’m sure others can add… Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Tuesday at 01:03 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:03 PM On 4/7/2025 at 11:00 PM, Richard Noggin said: How is this level of plotting possible without the current Giants HC catching wind? It's just not something Daboll would passively endure. I'm pretty sure that Daboll already understands there's a non-zero chance that he will not be the HC of the Giants after or before the end of the season. And if they draft Sanders, it's not out of the question that the Giants "brain trust" could offer the job to "Coach". It would be consistent with their idiocy. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted Tuesday at 01:27 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:27 PM On 4/7/2025 at 6:19 PM, wppete said: Have a feeling Sanders is going somewhere in the 20s or even drop into the top of the Second Round. Pittsburgh makes sense to me. Tomlin is an interesting coach - i don't think he's the greatest with the X's and O's but his players listen to him and its probably a good locker room for him to fit into. 1 Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted Tuesday at 02:37 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:37 PM At this point I think he will slide a bunch because no coach wants him unless they think that Sanders will be like Bo Nix and truly pro ready as a rookie, but the teams at the top have too many holes. If Sanders struggles and a coach is a top 5 pick two years in a row it is unlikely he gets year three. Quote
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