Who finishes 2nd in the AFCE this year?

[warrior9]

23 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Definitely the pats

 

They can get either Carter or Hunter at 3 and will still have 8 picks left.

 

Vrabel is the no nonsense coach they need.

 

I think the gap between 1 and 2 has drastically shrunk

The gap between the Bills and AFCE competition has shrunk but not drastically. 

 

Vrabel is a much better coach that Mayo but that roster is still pretty void of talent. They spent in FA and they have before. 

 

The Bills will still be 5-6 wins ahead of the next closest in AFCE. After this year? Yeah probably a different discussion. 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Well they split with us last year (sort of, against our scrubs)

 

You know what I meant, ya wisenheimer!

[Doc Brown]

9 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

The gap between the Bills and AFCE competition has shrunk but not drastically. 

 

Vrabel is a much better coach that Mayo but that roster is still pretty void of talent. They spent in FA and they have before. 

 

The Bills will still be 5-6 wins ahead of the next closest in AFCE. After this year? Yeah probably a different discussion. 

I'd be more concerned about them long term if they didn't beat us in the finale last year.  Weird sentence to type.  

[corta765]

On 4/5/2025 at 3:55 PM, Billsfed1 said:

The Jets are gonna be bad for a bit still,

 

The Jets are where the Bills were in the drought. They have tried everything (bigger and better too) with no change in result. It starts with the owner meddling too much and it truly is hard to see it changing until otherwise. IF they actually come out of that darkness no one will really predict it as much as it will happen because every other indicator says there is nothing to make you believe otherwise.

[Talley56]

44 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

McDermott's teams are winless on the road in the playoffs. I would rather avoid the WC route and try to get the #1 seed.

Good point.

[KOKBILLS]

[BillsFanForever19]

9 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Cook for Hall who says no 

 

Both teams?

[Doc]

11 hours ago, Gregg said:

Just In: “It sounds like” new Jets HC Aaron Glenn wants to shift to an RB committee, per @RichCimini

Cimini adds the Jets may be open to trading Breece Hall if Ashton Jeanty is available at 7th overall.

“Hall is a gifted player who would attract interest if dangled in trade… pic.twitter.com/tpZQVHPXBg

— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) April 6, 2025

 

They have the QB for it...

[ganesh]

Miami 

they still have a franchise QB with a quick release and deadly accuracy 

RB backfield that is solid with Achane as a game breaker 

WR with the duo of Hill and Waddle 

 

a solid front four in defense.  
 

they will compete with the bills for the AFC East crown 

 

[billsfan89]

Gonna have to see the draft but as of now I would say the Fins are still the second best team. The Pats are a bit of a dark horse as if Maye can develop in year two with a solid draft and free agency infusing some talent around him they could push past the Fins and Jets. 

[Chandler#81]

20 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

To be fair they had some good runs along the way. Mid 80's with Ken O'Brien as their QB. Rex got them to the AFCCG in back-to-back years. Most of the time they have sucked. You could have said the same about the Bills before McDermott and Beane got here.

I disagree as it’s not ‘to be fair’. We were great in the mid 60’s, had OJ & Fergy in the mid 70’s, Playoffs in the early and late 80’s were SUPER in the 90’s and have been fantastic since Beane/McDermott & Allen showed up. Jets simply sucked before and after Namath.

[mannc]

15 hours ago, corta765 said:

 

The Jets are where the Bills were in the drought. They have tried everything (bigger and better too) with no change in result. It starts with the owner meddling too much and it truly is hard to see it changing until otherwise. IF they actually come out of that darkness no one will really predict it as much as it will happen because every other indicator says there is nothing to make you believe otherwise.

You don’t think Justin Fields will change the destiny of the Jets franchise?

[Gregg]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

I disagree as it’s not ‘to be fair’. We were great in the mid 60’s, had OJ & Fergy in the mid 70’s, Playoffs in the early and late 80’s were SUPER in the 90’s and have been fantastic since Beane/McDermott & Allen showed up. Jets simply sucked before and after Namath.

 

The Jets had some playoff teams in the mid 80's with O'Brien. When the Giants won the Super Bowl in the 86 season the Jets started 10-1 that year. There was talk of a NY-NY Super Bowl in the NYC area. But the Jets did what they do best and "Jets" the rest of the season losing their last 5 games of the regular season to finish 10-6. As for the Bills yes, they had OJ in the 70's but that decade was mostly a losing one.

Edited April 8 by Gregg

[corta765]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

You don’t think Justin Fields will change the destiny of the Jets franchise?

lol. Actually I thought he was pretty solid for PIT last year and it was a major mistake to move to Russ as Fields is a more dynamic player given his running ability. Had they kept him in I actually think they would've won the division which they pissed away.

 

But no outside of going to Sean McVay or Bruce Arians who seemingly can fix nearly any QB that comes their way to being pretty respectable, I think Tyrod will be back to starting my mid season.

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

I disagree as it’s not ‘to be fair’. We were great in the mid 60’s, had OJ & Fergy in the mid 70’s, Playoffs in the early and late 80’s were SUPER in the 90’s and have been fantastic since Beane/McDermott & Allen showed up. Jets simply sucked before and after Namath.

As my uncle once said the Jets have forever played for headlines the Giants play for titles. The Jets post Namath have had blips but nothing truly substantial to build with AND the moment they get remotely decent they go big instead of staying competent and calculated.

[TheWeatherMan]

Dolphins are the only other team with an established QB.  If Tua stays healthy they will finish 2nd.  The AFCE is arguably the worst division heading into 2025-2026.  

[corta765]

2 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Dolphins are the only other team with an established QB.  If Tua stays healthy they will finish 2nd.  The AFCE is arguably the worst division heading into 2025-2026.  

I like this as a ranking question. I would go as followed:

 

1. NFC East (SB champs, NFC title finalist, DAL you never know, ignore NYG)

2. NFC North (1-4 probably most talent of all divisions, but can't put ahead of PHI-WSH combo)

3. AFC North (Lamar & Burrow are great, PIT is consistently decent, ignore CLE)

4. AFC West (Curious if division finally steps up vs KC)

5. NFC West (Could see this division falling down a lot more this year)

 

6-8 Pick Your Order:
AFC East (Josh best QB of all and Tua probably 2nd best so raises the boats)

AFC South (Stroud is still decent & T-Law has had moments)

NFC South (Baker has a nice home & maybe Penix otherwise yikes)

[TheWeatherMan]

9 minutes ago, corta765 said:

I like this as a ranking question. I would go as followed:

 

1. NFC East (SB champs, NFC title finalist, DAL you never know, ignore NYG)

2. NFC North (1-4 probably most talent of all divisions, but can't put ahead of PHI-WSH combo)

3. AFC North (Lamar & Burrow are great, PIT is consistently decent, ignore CLE)

4. AFC West (Curious if division finally steps up vs KC)

5. NFC West (Could see this division falling down a lot more this year)

 

6-8 Pick Your Order:
AFC East (Josh best QB of all and Tua probably 2nd best so raises the boats)

AFC South (Stroud is still decent & T-Law has had moments)

NFC South (Baker has a nice home & maybe Penix otherwise yikes)

I got the AFCE and AFCS battling for the worst division.  I see a vast improved NFCS this year.  

[corta765]

27 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

I got the AFCE and AFCS battling for the worst division.  I see a vast improved NFCS this year.  

Basically because of Josh there isn't in a single team in the other two divisions close to what he does for BUF and that raised me to the point I can't put the AFCE last as the other two divisions don't have a team of the Bills caliber. Otherwise completely agree.

 

I can see the NFCS swapping with the NFCW. It is not being talked about enough how much talent SF has bled, the Rams roster is better but Stafford is older, the Hawks are doing things... not good things but things, and the Cards seem stuck in the middle. For a division that was the cream of the crop I can see the NFCS passing them for 3rd best in the NFC.

[Taro Nimbus]

22 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

McDermott's teams are winless on the road in the playoffs. I would rather avoid the WC route and try to get the #1 seed.

Yeah cause the Bills never lose games at home in the playoffs…

[Gregg]

22 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said:

Yeah cause the Bills never lose games at home in the playoffs…

 

They have but they have won more playoff games at home then they have lost with McDermott. Name a road playoff win with him as the coach. The Bills have one of the best home records in the league since McDermott became HC. The Bills have a much better chance to get to the Super Bowl if the games are played in OP.