White Linen Posted April 4 Posted April 4 20 hours ago, Joe Mama said: Wonder what prime Kyle Orton would be worth. We had him in his prime and he should be on our Wall of Fame. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 4 Posted April 4 24 minutes ago, HOUSE said: We had Gino Smith in our gun sites in the 2013 draft but no we just had to draft EJ Manuel .. he had the “it factor” tho… 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted April 4 Posted April 4 20 hours ago, Stads said: Random fact: Nathan Peterman's Wikipedia entry has 109 references. That is all One for each INT? 1 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted April 4 Posted April 4 10 hours ago, Big Turk said: Hard to believe this is the same guy drafted behind EJ Manuel in the 2013 draft class that was so bad on the Jets and has now parlayed it into another $43 million for 2 years. Kudos to him tho...he looked in the mirror, realized he wasn't the person or player he wanted to be and decided to work hard to make a change and continue working hard even when it seemed like it wasn't paying off for him the first 4 years or so. He got his chance in Seattle and he has played pretty well since then. Not elite, but pretty good. Always like to see success stories like this...he earned it thru his actions when it was so easy to go the Manziel way. Are people now starting to notice a pattern going on with the Jets and QBs? Quote
DeepPass Posted April 5 Posted April 5 22 hours ago, T.E. said: Imagine paying that to someone who is ultimately the least attractive QB option in your division. It's a big joke - isn't it?? 1 Quote
Mister Defense Posted April 5 Posted April 5 10 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Just curious... How do you know what Carrol thinks? Carroll has won more Super Bowls than all 21 Bills head coaches combined. He's also won more college national championships than the combined total of the UB Bulls' 28 head coaches. I personally don't think Pete's "mental competence" is really an issue - despite GB's concern with his age. I also suspect he went after Geno because Josh (or Pat, Joe, etc.) wasn't available. When you go to the store and the shelves are empty, you take what you can get. And let's not forget Geno threw for more yards with a higher completion percentage than Allen last year. Geno's not MVP material but he's not Nate Peterman either. Well, I assume he thinks he can win big with Geno, or would not have traded for him--and then signed him to a big two year extension. His offenses in the last 5+ years in Seattle have always looked second rate, and now he looks like he is establishing another one in LA. Good defense coach, but seems offense has passed him by as he has aged in the league. You are right, pretty good numbers from ol' Geno last year, the same kind of year that Dak has over and over, that are more mirage than reality--when push comes to shove they crumble. We shall see. Quote
Spiderweb Posted April 5 Posted April 5 On 4/3/2025 at 11:17 PM, Mike in Horseheads said: I'm not sure Davis is a billionaire lol Net worth of his franchise makes him one.... Quote
hondo in seattle Posted April 5 Posted April 5 13 hours ago, Mister Defense said: Well, I assume he thinks he can win big with Geno, or would not have traded for him--and then signed him to a big two year extension. His offenses in the last 5+ years in Seattle have always looked second rate, and now he looks like he is establishing another one in LA. Good defense coach, but seems offense has passed him by as he has aged in the league. You are right, pretty good numbers from ol' Geno last year, the same kind of year that Dak has over and over, that are more mirage than reality--when push comes to shove they crumble. We shall see. I think if the NFL allowed the Raiders to draft players from other teams, Carroll/Spytek would draft Pat or Josh and tell Geno, "Sorry, pal." Carroll's offense was ranked 14th last season, only slightly better than average. His defense was also coincidentally ranked 14th. He wasn't particularly good - or bad - on either side of the ball last season. Based on stats, it's hard to argue, "offense has passed him by as he has aged in the league." Given that he was once considered a defensive mastermind, it is fair to wonder though if defense has passed him by. Like other defensive-minded NFL coaches, Carroll needs to find the right OC. Like all other NFL coaches, he needs his GM to find the right players. With $48 million in cap space, the second need may be (partially) met, although they'd probably be more confident & optimistic if they had Pat or Josh. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. I expect they'll be better than last year though making the playoffs in the AFC West is a hard ask. 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted April 6 Posted April 6 On 4/4/2025 at 8:20 AM, BillsShredder83 said: Leave my boy alone! LOL I see him every college Saturday on ACC Network! Dude is handsome and great at his job now, I know youre playing and I am too. We thought he was gunna be Josh, before we knew who Josh was. Everything happens for a reason and the way its supposed to, but I still have a soft spot for him. I think he gave it his all to make it work, its not his fault he was way overdrafted in a bad class. As far as Geno, good for him, hard to dislike that dude. Perfect bridge guy, and EXACTLYYYYY who I want mentoring my young guy when I end up drafting one. Probably the ultimate story of resilience in the NFL in the last decade. There are a million dudes like him out of the league in 3 years. 67m career earnings so far, not too shabby!! Strikes me as the kinda guy who did a great job saving it. Easier to hang onto when you think the ride might end at any minute As a FSU fan, I was pumped EJ was leaving bc he was holding them back… then the unthinkable happened and the Bills wasted a 1st rd pick on him. At least FSU got to eats Ws the next year. So if you thought EJ was going to be JA, that’s fine, but don’t lump me into that “we” haha. Quote
billsfan89 Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Seems “fine” Raiders need a longer term direction at QB but Geno isn’t a bad QB either. Quote
eball Posted April 6 Posted April 6 On 4/4/2025 at 7:06 AM, GunnerBill said: The Raiders are not going QB at 6. This is the final nail in that coffin. You don't hire a 70 odd year old Head Coach let him bring his placeholder QB from his last place in, then extend said QB to waste draft capital on a replacement. They are gonna try and win now with Grandpa Pete and Geno. Which is hilarious and not at all what I want to see if I’m a Raider fan. Quote
JP51 Posted April 6 Posted April 6 On 4/4/2025 at 6:20 PM, HOUSE said: We had Gino Smith in our gun sites in the 2013 draft but no we just had to draft EJ Manuel .. I almost worry that if we draft Gino he falls in the good enough category and we never draft JA. Maybe it worked out in a sick way lol 1 Quote
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