Joe Milton traded to Cowboys

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

On 4/3/2025 at 3:23 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Eh, Barkley was barely better than Peterman. Two of the worst qbs to play in a long time. 
 

i personally like the guy who can play in the league vet (Andy Dalton) or the upside guy. I hate our backups and we are blessed Allen is made of steel. 

 

I mean Dalton's last "good" season was what, 2017?  I feel like trubisky put up better numbers in Chicago than anything Dalton has done in the last 5 years.  He did really suck in pittsburgh, but so did everyone else that played on those bad steeler offenses - to be clear i think Mitch sucked the most 🙂.  Pickett, Rudolph, Trubisky, Wilson, Fields - doesn't really matter when they can't block, suck at running, and have one of the worst playcallers in the league.  

 

I like vet backups personally.  They watch (and have watched) a lot of film, and backup QBs are more and more getting involved in coaching.  Help get the starter ready to go.  

Edited 6 hours ago by Bleeding Bills Blue

[Doc Brown]

19 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

I think it's a terrible move by the Pats. 

 

Let's also comment that they are acting like Maye had a legendary season, when he was only marginally above Trent Edwards or JP Losman first year starting kind of seasons. 

 

Granted, he showed a lot of promise....but for that measure of compensation might have been worth keeping Milton around another season. 

If the Patriots had any doubts about Maye or any belief that Milton would become a competent NFL starting QB they wouldn't have dealt him.

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2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'm a bit concerned with all the picks the pats are accumulating.

 

First round: No. 4

Second round: No. 38

Third round: No. 69

Third round: No. 77 (From Atlanta)

Fourth round: No. 106

Fifth round: No. 144

Fifth round: No. 171 (From Dallas)

Seventh round: No. 220

Seventh round: No. 238 (From Los Angeles Chargers)

 

They could make a strong push for the division 

 

They were 4-13 last year, and while they added in free agency and have a new coaching staff - they were not close in many of those games.  They were outscored by 128, 3rd fewest points scored in the league ahead of Cleveland and NYG.  Washington did the 1 year turnaround, but a lot broke right for them and they made a ton of moves to accrue picks, space, and players.  

 

The 3 uncommon opponents of - NYG, LVR, Tenn vs. buffalos Chiefs, Texans, Eagles is an advantage for them for sure.  But Buffalo's away schedule is easier, and Buffalo is a really good home team.  

 

Buffalo away games of Pitt, Atlanta, Carolina, Cleveland, Houston 

NE Away games of Tenn, Cinci, TB, NO, and Baltimore

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23 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

Wow, just shocked that the girls made a good, maybe great move, with almost no risk.  And that New England made an apparently very bad one.

 

So Milton clearly did not look like he did against our backups when he was practicing with New England!

 

If he did, then a comically bad move, as there are so many teams that need a high quality starter this year and next.

 

Really looking forward to seeing how this works out, how he looks in the preseason.  Dak, a good guy, will never lead them to a championship and will likely never come close.  So what happens if Milton looks like he did against the Bills with the cowgirls in the preseason?

 

 

 

Well... it's the preseason so... likely nothing happens  Much like week 18 games against a teams entire roster of backups.  I'm not sure how much value you get there.  Peterman carved people up in the preseason when the other team doesn't blitz, and end of roster guys are playing the whole game.  If that defense Milton faced suited up for the bills for 17 games, they would have been by far the worst unit in the league.  

 

None of the tools that existed before are any different than they were a year ago when they drafted him in the 6th (pick 193).  He's already 25 (older than trey lance), and the between the ears processing and stuff is where all the question marks were when he came out.  Nothing that happened last season or in any preseason changes that.  

 

From NE's perspective - they likely floated him in trade talks and took the best or only offer.  Signing dobbs to me meant they would either trade him or try and waive him to the PS.  Nobody is trying to carry 3 QBs for an entire season as players just get hurt too much to lose that roster flexibility.  Ch

 

NE Trades:

2025 - Pick 217 (Chart value of 4.2) 

2024 - Pick 193 (Chart value of 13.8)

 

Dallas Trades: 

2025 - Pick 171 (Chart value of 23)

[Mister Defense]

4 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Well... it's the preseason so... likely nothing happens  Much like week 18 games against a teams entire roster of backups.  I'm not sure how much value you get there.  Peterman carved people up in the preseason when the other team doesn't blitz, and end of roster guys are playing the whole game.  If that defense Milton faced suited up for the bills for 17 games, they would have been by far the worst unit in the league.  

 

None of the tools that existed before are any different than they were a year ago when they drafted him in the 6th (pick 193).  He's already 25 (older than trey lance), and the between the ears processing and stuff is where all the question marks were when he came out.  Nothing that happened last season or in any preseason changes that.  

 

From NE's perspective - they likely floated him in trade talks and took the best or only offer.  Signing dobbs to me meant they would either trade him or try and waive him to the PS.  Nobody is trying to carry 3 QBs for an entire season as players just get hurt too much to lose that roster flexibility.  Ch

 

NE Trades:

2025 - Pick 217 (Chart value of 4.2) 

2024 - Pick 193 (Chart value of 13.8)

 

Dallas Trades: 

2025 - Pick 171 (Chart value of 23)

 

 

I agree with a lot of that.

 

But we definitely do not know if what you say in the sentence above, now in bold, is accurate.  Some guys, with skills like Milton has, the physical tools, get to the NFL and something clicks.

 

Only one game, yup, and like we both said, lotsa backups, but he looked superb, one of the best first game performances I have ever seen in the NFL.

 

It may not mean much, but it could, right?

 

Like I said, it seems likely the pats saw some things in practice and camp that caused them to not have much hope for him. But you never know.  Kurt Warner was bagging groceries at one point, with no one clamoring to even bring him in. 

 

Then, MVP, Super Bowl champ, and Fall of Fame.