THE GREAT ORANGE MENACE: "IT'S LIBERATION DAY IN AMERICA!" ANY NEGATIVE EFFECTS ARE TRANSITORY

[TH3]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Pick back up.

 

 

The POINT is that you cannot keep claiming that all Trump supporters are idiots and fools,

when there are a majority of Americans (77 million)  who voted for him

It is dishonest.

 

 

Simple.

 

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If your not an idiot or fool for voting for a traitor rapist absolute disaster of a leader …how would you describe it then?

[Andy1]

In addition to Steve’s comments above, most small rural towns (MAGA land) with low income jobs, have very few stores to shop at. There is often just a Dollar General - filled with products from China, a liquor store and gas station. These people can either shop local and buy products from China or shop the internet and still buy from China. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

11 minutes ago, TH3 said:

If your not an idiot or fool for voting for a traitor rapist absolute disaster of a leader …how would you describe it then?

Rejecting democrats ideas, they lost the average American.

[B-Man]

 

Swiss Pharma Company Announces $23 Billion U.S. Investment Days After Trump Pledged ‘Major Tariff’ on Drug Imports

 

 

Novartis plans to expand its US-based manufacturing and R&D footprint with a total investment of $23B over the next 5 years

Apr 10, 2025

 

• Expanded US manufacturing and R&D presence with investment in 10 facilities, including 7 brand new facilities
• With new manufacturing capacity, Novartis will be able to produce 100% of its key medicines end-to-end in the US, a significant increase from current levels
• Increased R&D presence planned includes a new research hub in the San Diego area to tap some of the best and brightest minds in America
• Investment supports Novartis +5% cc CAGR 2024-2029 sales guidance

 

 

EAST HANOVER, N.J., April 10, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, Novartis, a leading global innovative medicines company, announced a planned $23 billion investment over 5 years in US-based infrastructure, ensuring all key Novartis medicines for US patients will be made in the United States. This commitment enables Novartis to expand on its current manufacturing, research and technology presence across the country with 10 facilities, including 7 brand new facilities, creating nearly 1,000 new jobs at Novartis and approximately 4,000 additional US jobs. The production capacity will cover both active pharmaceutical ingredients (API) and biologics drug substance, as well as secondary production and packaging.

 

Over the next 5 years, Novartis will:

 

• Establish 1 biomedical research innovation hub in San Diego, CA, its second global R&D hub in the US
• Build 4 new manufacturing facilities in soon-to-be-determined states, including 3 that will make biologics drug substances, drug products, device assembly and packaging, and 1 facility that will make chemical drug substances, oral solids dosage forms and packaging
• Build 2 new radioligand therapy (RLT) manufacturing facilities in Florida and Texas
• Expand 3 RLT manufacturing facilities in Indianapolis, IN, Millburn, NJ, and Carlsbad, CA

https://www.novartis.com/us-en/news/media-releases/novartis-plans-expand-its-us-based-manufacturing-and-rd-footprint-total-investment-23b-over-next-5-years

[Homelander]

On 4/2/2025 at 9:27 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

Liberation Day: Trump Was Right About Everything, and That Is What the So-Called Experts Resent the Most

By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell 

 

President Donald Trump took to the White House Rose Garden to declare "Liberation Day," for America with a plan for reciprocal tariffs with foreign nations and an executive order signing ceremony in front of his cabinet and other assembled guests. 

 

Trump gave remarks, which for him were actually brief; but this portion of his speech stood out. 

 

In the coming days, there will be complaints from the globalists, and the outsourcers, and special interests, and the Fake News, always the Fake News will always complain. But, never forget, every prediction our opponents made about trade for the last 30 years has been proven totally wrong. They were wrong about NAFTA, they were wrong about China, they were wrong about the Trans Pacific Partnership, which would have been a disaster if I didn't terminate it. If I didn't terminate that, United Autoworkers, you would have had no jobs in this country. You would have had no jobs. It was all going to other countries. In my first term, they said tariffs would crash the economy. Instead, we built the greatest economy in the history of the world. And again, I have great respect for President Xi of China, great respect for China, but they were taking tremendous advantage of us. And, I commend them for that. I say, hey, if you can get away with it, that's okay. But, you know, they understand exactly what's happening and they probably, most of them are saying it's about time they did something. But they're going to fight, they're going fight, everyone going's to fight. I say to the leaders, look you gotta take care of your country, but we have to start taking care of our country now. We can't do what we've been doing for the last 50 years...     

 

 

Trump pretty much outlined what I have observed my entire adult life. America is supposed to be this premiere economic superpower that somehow gets the short end of the stick—or at least our people do, while foreign nations get incentives, aid and things handed to them without giving anything in return. The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is the most well-documented example of this. 

 

If Trump's whole tariff policy can be boiled down to one concept, it is: "Not this way. Not any more." Trump is intent on doing things differently, restoring a model that once built the nation, before taxation and a bloated and regulatory-ridden government tore it down. 

 

What most of these so-called experts who were the brain trusts behind NAFTA and the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) really feel is not shame at their failure and America's demise, but resentment that Trump is attempting a old/new strategy and in some ways, swinging for the fences, while all they did was sell out America's sweat equity, ingenuity and might, while setting us up for bankruptcy.

 

https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2025/04/02/liberation-day-trump-was-right-about-everything-and-that-is-what-the-so-called-experts-resent-the-most-n2187431

 

 

 

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Trump 2.0 is proving to be every bit as reckless as Trump 1.0 if not more so. It's clear they’re in way over their heads.

 

 

[stevestojan]

50 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Was American manufacturing sold out overnight? Why would you expect it to be fixed in the blink of an eye? So should we just not try and bring back American manufacturing?

Maybe (and I only say maybe because American made goods will inherently and forever be more expensive). But let’s go with “Yes! MURCA!” In that case, Trump still put the cart before the horse. Why put his entire constituency through years of pain as they buy all their household necessities while the “plan” to bring the industry back to the US is executed; which will take years and hundreds of billions of dollars. And then prices will be higher even then because no American is lining up to put widgets on shoes for $7/hr (though they might if they have to face the tariff pain that long). 

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, Homelander said:

 

MY STUPIDITY IS OFF THE CHARTS

 

 

Fixed.

[Homelander]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Fixed.

 

Liberation Day: Trump Was Right About Everything, and That Is What the So-Called Experts Resent the Most

 

This is fun.

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

13 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Maybe (and I only say maybe because American made goods will inherently and forever be more expensive). But let’s go with “Yes! MURCA!” In that case, Trump still put the cart before the horse. Why put his entire constituency through years of pain as they buy all their household necessities while the “plan” to bring the industry back to the US is executed; which will take years and hundreds of billions of dollars. And then prices will be higher even then because no American is lining up to put widgets on shoes for $7/hr (though they might if they have to face the tariff pain that long). 

Years of pain? I highly doubt that.

[stevestojan]

3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Years of pain? I highly doubt that.

That’s all you have? 
 

A trade embargo with China will be painful for low income families for as long as it lasts. Because again, they need to buy inexpensive household goods to stay afloat. 
 

A plan of “bringing those jobs back to America” will indeed hurt for years while the entire ***** thing is built. Unless, of course, this was really never about bringing jobs back to America. But I was told to “just trust the president” so it must be the case. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

9 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

That’s all you have? 
 

A trade embargo with China will be painful for low income families for as long as it lasts. Because again, they need to buy inexpensive household goods to stay afloat. 
 

A plan of “bringing those jobs back to America” will indeed hurt for years while the entire ***** thing is built. Unless, of course, this was really never about bringing jobs back to America. But I was told to “just trust the president” so it must be the case. 

All I got? All you have is hysteria and rough forecasting.

[stevestojan]

1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

All I got? All you have is hysteria and rough forecasting.

I have no personal hysteria. Luckily I’m fine financially and can survive whatever Drumpf decides the flavor of the day is.
 

I’m worried about those who aren’t as lucky as some of us and have to make difficult choices and truly believed we’d have “lower prices on day 1” only to see nearly every consumer product increase in price. That’s  likely because they didn’t have even a basic understanding of what tariffs DO when voting for him, and believed it was really just “they charge us so we will charge them” not realizing that 100% of the time, the end consumer foots the bill.  Maybe I have hysteria for those that were bamboozled by a billionaire. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

2 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

I have no personal hysteria. Luckily I’m fine financially and can survive whatever Drumpf decides the flavor of the day is.
 

I’m worried about those who aren’t as lucky as some of us and have to make difficult choices and truly believed we’d have “lower prices on day 1” only to see nearly every consumer product increase in price. That’s  likely because they didn’t have even a basic understanding of what tariffs DO when voting for him, and believed it was really just “they charge us so we will charge them” not realizing that 100% of the time, the end consumer foots the bill.  Maybe I have hysteria for those that were bamboozled by a billionaire. 

You don't give a ***** about the average American, you just have tds. Plus, it's been 3 months.

[AverageAllensSuspensor]

4 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

You don't give a ***** about the average American, you just have tds. Plus, it's been 3 months.

 

Just three months is what is scary. If he has managed to f×ck everything up like this in three months. It is hard to even imagine what he will be able to do in the coming 45.

[stevestojan]

Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

You don't give a ***** about the average American, you just have tds. Plus, it's been 3 months.

I don’t?
 

My entire family is teachers. They buy nearly everything for their classrooms while raising their families. And guess what? They don’t buy all “made in the USA” because they also need to pay their electric bill. They are middle class. They’ll be ok. But those that aren’t? They won’t. But you think I just have “tds” (durrrr).
 

No, I have logic and reasoning and not a weird dedication to a politic figure. (Spoiler, I think Biden was awful so save your whataboutism). 
 

And I love the “it’s been three months.” Exactly. It’s only been three months of a lame duck president with a plan to… (still don’t know, as it changes daily. Is it that the market was already overpriced? China must be punished? bring jobs back to America? What’s the strategy today? Because one thing i do know is that the economy LOVES daily uncertainly. 🙄) 

 

But tell me again who I care about. Thanks. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 hours ago, Roundybout said:

No, I’m saying that the extra costs to import goods is almost always passed on to the consumer. Look at what happened during the Pandemic! 
 

If you want to specifically target China, it would make more sense, but a blanket tariff on every single nation is a disaster. There is nowhere for consumers to turn. 

 

There are serious warning signs that the dollar may fall out of being the world’s reserve currency. Then what happens?

That pandemic was something else.   Where did it get started again?  

[stevestojan]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

That pandemic was something else.   Where did it get started again?  

5G towers, of course. Funded by Bill Gates. Obviously… 

[TH3]

1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Rejecting democrats ideas, they lost the average American.

And yet…more people voted against DT than for him in 2024

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

Just now, TH3 said:

And yet…more people voted against DT than for him in 2024

Oh yeah? Who won all the swing states?

[Wacka]

2 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

That we don't vote for sex offenders, criminals and con men? 

Cinton, Obama, and Biden got elected.