Mikie2times Posted Friday at 01:25 AM Posted Friday at 01:25 AM 26 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Now with news that countries like Japan are dumping bonds, it's basically a sign that they figured out how to beat Trump. He blinked and admitted the bond market got him spooked. I’m surprised the “art of the deal” doesn’t involve needing to know what leverage you have.
IrishLass Posted Friday at 01:27 AM Posted Friday at 01:27 AM 1 minute ago, Mikie2times said: I’m surprised the “art of the deal” doesn’t involve needing to know what leverage you have. Liberals are really out of their element with anything that doesn't involve transgender surgeries. 1
Mikie2times Posted Friday at 01:37 AM Posted Friday at 01:37 AM 8 minutes ago, IrishLass said: Liberals are really out of their element with anything that doesn't involve transgender surgeries. That’s a pretty solid one.
Doc Brown Posted Friday at 01:47 AM Posted Friday at 01:47 AM 4 hours ago, daz28 said: How about instead of tax cuts, it's a tax credit if they actually use that money to, you know, start a business. Giving the rich more money to invest in stocks does nothing but get more for the people that don't even need it. It also does zero for the economy. At a federal level? No thanks. It causes the government to play favorites. I don't want my tax dollars to subsidize some kid who dropped out of college and wants to start a tattoo parlor. A federal flat tax for those above the poverty level would be more effective.
Homelander Posted Friday at 01:56 AM Posted Friday at 01:56 AM 28 minutes ago, IrishLass said: Liberals are really out of their element with anything that doesn't involve transgender surgeries. Nothing says financial security like raging culture wars, huh?
daz28 Posted Friday at 02:27 AM Posted Friday at 02:27 AM (edited) 39 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: At a federal level? No thanks. It causes the government to play favorites. I don't want my tax dollars to subsidize some kid who dropped out of college and wants to start a tattoo parlor. A federal flat tax for those above the poverty level would be more effective. With parameters of course. Still better than stock buybacks. Also, this country DOES need grass roots help big time. Even if it's something you feel is folly. If tattoos are bad, then why if NFL good? Flat tax would be circumvented just like they are now. Edited Friday at 02:28 AM by daz28
stevestojan Posted Friday at 02:37 AM Posted Friday at 02:37 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, IrishLass said: Liberals are really out of their element with anything that doesn't involve transgender surgeries. Uh durrrrrr…. You’re so far out of your element here. Some of your comments on tariffs made me think you’re in grade school, since even a basic high school education would prevent some of your embarrassing remarks. This is starting to make me think you might actually be. So this will be my last comment just in case. Rare to call someone a dufus and it fits so well. Anything else to add that isn’t a meme comment? Stay in school, kids. Edited Friday at 02:39 AM by stevestojan 2
Doc Brown Posted Friday at 02:41 AM Posted Friday at 02:41 AM Just now, daz28 said: With parameters of course. Still better than stock buybacks. Also, this country DOES need grass roots help big time. Even if it's something you feel is folly. If tattoos are bad, then why if NFL good? Not to sound cold but if you need government tax credits to start a small business it's unlikely to succeed imo.
stevestojan Posted Friday at 02:46 AM Posted Friday at 02:46 AM 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Not to sound cold but if you need government tax credits to start a small business it's unlikely to succeed imo. That’s not cold. That’s a fact.
Mikie2times Posted Friday at 04:37 AM Posted Friday at 04:37 AM 1 hour ago, stevestojan said: Uh durrrrrr…. You’re so far out of your element here. Some of your comments on tariffs made me think you’re in grade school, since even a basic high school education would prevent some of your embarrassing remarks. This is starting to make me think you might actually be. So this will be my last comment just in case. Rare to call someone a dufus and it fits so well. Anything else to add that isn’t a meme comment? Stay in school, kids. He capitulated faster than Donald
Doc Brown Posted Friday at 09:09 AM Posted Friday at 09:09 AM 9 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Un friggin believable. TDS takes hold fast. My post told you to thank Trump. Because Trump announcing the pause in tariffs specifically caused the market spike. Did it not? My stance on short term market timing and the consternation it causes people like you has been consistent over years as you were shown. Carry on though. It's strange to me that you dismiss the recent volatility in the stock market as just a normal cycle this week as if a jobs report came back lower than expected or the Fed might not decrease that interest rate by a quarter of a point. Especially considering we had the biggest two day market collapse since Covid and the biggest one day spike since 2008. The market's reaction saved (or at least delayed) what would have been an unsustainable tariff policy/trade war for the entire globe that would have been absolutely disastrous. Trump even said he backed down as the stock market and the bond market indicated people were getting "yippity." I'm thankful that Trump saw how disastrous his policy might have been and then course corrected. He now can attempt what no previous administration has ever dared to do and try to squeeze China economically with these strategic tariffs. I'm not sure the American people will have enough resolve to take a short term hit financially to cripple China but at least the plan makes sense now. There is a universe where you can support a president and be allowed to call him out when you think he's wrong. It's not TDS. It's basic constructive criticism. The same way I criticize McDermott for his defensive failure in the playoffs but still think he's a good enough coach to eventually help us win the Super Bowl. You can start all your culture war threads and every other stupid thing that the right and left fight about but realize that we're all on the same team here. 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted Friday at 11:02 AM Author Posted Friday at 11:02 AM I'm looking forward to leftists getting behind communist China all the way. You know it's coming. It's the iron law of TDS. Anything orange man is for, we must be against.
Andy1 Posted Friday at 11:34 AM Posted Friday at 11:34 AM (edited) So if the tariffs are about fixing the national deficit, why did the Republican senate pass this budget proposal? Edited Friday at 11:35 AM by Andy1 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted Friday at 12:04 PM Posted Friday at 12:04 PM Is anyone really surprised? We elected another senile fraud and a bunch of his cronies, because they promised to bribe us with our own money...but in a different way from the other guy... "We used to make ***** in this country. We used to build *****. Now we just put our hand in the next guy's pocket". 1
Roundybout Posted Friday at 12:19 PM Posted Friday at 12:19 PM 44 minutes ago, Andy1 said: So if the tariffs are about fixing the national deficit, why did the Republican senate pass this budget proposal? Because it’s not about fixing the debt, it’s about cutting services to the poor and marginalized. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted Friday at 12:36 PM Posted Friday at 12:36 PM 59 minutes ago, Andy1 said: So if the tariffs are about fixing the national deficit, why did the Republican senate pass this budget proposal? I've read some opinion pieces that suggest the tariffs are about dismantling the current global order, which now favors China more than the US, on our terms rather than theirs. What I don't get about the strategy is then why involve the rest of our trading partners in the dispute? Here's a link to one: https://blog.exitgroup.us/p/deglobalization-is-over-determined
thenorthremembers Posted Friday at 12:44 PM Posted Friday at 12:44 PM 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm looking forward to leftists getting behind communist China all the way. You know it's coming. It's the iron law of TDS. Anything orange man is for, we must be against. It's already started. Along with the propaganda on the news "Consumers will be the ones to pay for the Tariffs" without one mention that consumers have a choice not to buy products from China. Weak willed cowards. 7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I've read some opinion pieces that suggest the tariffs are about dismantling the current global order, which now favors China more than the US, on our terms rather than theirs. What I don't get about the strategy is then why involve the rest of our trading partners in the dispute? Here's a link to one: https://blog.exitgroup.us/p/deglobalization-is-over-determined Because those trade partners will be the next China if we dont take care of it now.
Roundybout Posted Friday at 12:50 PM Posted Friday at 12:50 PM 5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: It's already started. Along with the propaganda on the news "Consumers will be the ones to pay for the Tariffs" without one mention that consumers have a choice not to buy products from China. Weak willed cowards. Because those trade partners will be the next China if we dont take care of it now. How could a nation like Britain ever compete with China? This is just cope. Consumers bear the costs of tariffs. This is settled economics. You, like anyone who supports this policy, are anti-free market and anti-American.
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