Owners approve use of electronic first down measuring technology, Bills still not 2024 AFC Champions

[Logic]

 

[GASabresIUFan]

So are we calling this the second Bills got screwed rules change?  1st the OT rules and now the chain gang. Is this the un-official acknowledgement that the officials blew the 1st down call?

[17islongenough]

If the refs still spot the ball then this changes nothing other than a little time saving. 

[K-9]

6 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

If the refs still spot the ball then this changes nothing other than a little time saving. 

Precisely. This changes nothing. 

[GASabresIUFan]

7 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

If the refs still spot the ball then this changes nothing other than a little time saving. 

Hopefully this tech will be utilized to prevent the constant miss spotting the ball that occurred against the Bills in the AFC Championship game.

[Logic]

7 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

If the refs still spot the ball then this changes nothing other than a little time saving. 

 

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Precisely. This changes nothing. 

I don't think the Tweet or article were worded in such a way as to confirm or deny the veracity of these statements.

In other words: Does the technology trigger when the ball crosses the first down line and electronically signal "first down" before the refs can even spot the ball?

Seems like more information is needed to form a conclusion.

[ddaryl]

12 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

If the refs still spot the ball then this changes nothing other than a little time saving. 

 

Not if they can spot forward progress. Then the replay should take over and the Ball should be spotted according to replay
 

[MJS]

Maybe it will help some, but there is so much that goes into it. The position of the ball, when the player's body part touches the ground, etc. And often that happens in a pile of large humans. It'll still come down to judgement calls by the refs.

[Senth]

Challenging the spot should be unlimited.

[ProcessTruster]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

 

I don't think the Tweet or article were worded in such a way as to confirm or deny the veracity of these statements.

In other words: Does the technology trigger when the ball crosses the first down line and electronically signal "first down" before the refs can even spot the ball?

Seems like more information is needed to form a conclusion.

As a veteran tennis player/fan, and if Hawkeye is being used the same way it is used in pro tennis, then yes, they must have found a way to geolocate the ball relative to the line to gain with enough precision (even in the midst of multiple tacklers -- don't know how that is accomplished) to do exactly that.  Hell, they could even "ring a bell" as the line to gain is crossed, similar to how "OUT" is electronically called in real time as the tennis ball misses the line in a tennis match.  

 

wow, super cool if they have figured this out

[Yobogoya!]

19 minutes ago, Senth said:

Challenging the spot should be unlimited.

I’m just going anecdotally off the top of my head, but I’m pretty sure spots are one of the least successful challenges. Refs are super reluctant to change them unless it’s beyond blatant. 
 

No way they’d allow unlimited opportunities to hold the game up for that. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

 

I don't think the Tweet or article were worded in such a way as to confirm or deny the veracity of these statements.

In other words: Does the technology trigger when the ball crosses the first down line and electronically signal "first down" before the refs can even spot the ball?

Seems like more information is needed to form a conclusion.

no wonder they call you "logic"

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

This is great news.

 

I wonder if this would have measured Josh's forward progress in the AFC Championship game.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

 

I don't think the Tweet or article were worded in such a way as to confirm or deny the veracity of these statements.

In other words: Does the technology trigger when the ball crosses the first down line and electronically signal "first down" before the refs can even spot the ball?

Seems like more information is needed to form a conclusion.

Seems there isn't a trigger.  It's where the ref spots the ball that counts and the only change is they don't have to bring in the chain gang to measure for the first down.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

Now they need to have the players wear special lenses that allow them to see the line to gain, projected across the field. 👍

[transient]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Now they need to have the players wear special lenses that allow them to see the line to gain, projected across the field. 👍

I’d settle for special lenses for the officials that bring their collective visual acuity up to the 20/20 standard. 

[Warcodered]

16 minutes ago, transient said:

I’d settle for special lenses for the officials that bring their collective visual acuity up to the 20/20 standard. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

“Hawk eye technology”…so basically they are just going to use the cameras that Belichick had set up across the league.

 

[Bferra13]

Lol what a joke. Appropriately though made on April Fools to trick morons that this actually changes anything.

[SinceThe70s]

6 hours ago, Logic said:

 

I don't think the Tweet or article were worded in such a way as to confirm or deny the veracity of these statements.

In other words: Does the technology trigger when the ball crosses the first down line and electronically signal "first down" before the refs can even spot the ball?

Seems like more information is needed to form a conclusion.

 

At a minimum there's a chip in the ball that should be able to determine whether the ball ever crossed the first down line. Unfortunately that doesn't help wrt whether a knee was down before the ball crossed the line.

 

I'm skeptical that there will ever be a fool proof system, more skeptical that relying on the refs is a good idea and most skeptical that the NFL even cares. Controversial plays/games dates back to the Immaculate Reception (and probably before) and has never negatively affected the bottom line.