Reliable Media Creating Illegal Alien Deportation Victim False Narratives

[Orlando Buffalo]

15 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. But yes, people here illegally do get "some" constitutional rights because of the way the Bill of Rights was written.

First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law (restricting freedom of speech)" - it's about what government is allowed/forbidden to do. No law, no hidden law, etc. The Supreme Court has allowed for certain exceptions (you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater, etc), but the way it's written it applies to everyone in the U.S.: citizen, legal visitor, illegal immigrant.

Second Amendment: "The right of the people (to bear arms)" - it's about what the people have the right to do. In general, the Supreme Court has said "the (American) people" are our citizens and lawful permanent residents only. Not students, not visitors, not illegal entrants. So illegal aliens (as well as student visa holders, etc) have no right to own guns, and there are hundreds of federal prosecutions every year of aliens for unlawfully possessing a firearm.

 

So yes, certain constitutional protections don't apply to illegal aliens. But certain ones do. The due process clause of the Fifth Amendment is phrased like the First Amendment, so it applies to everyone, legal or illegal.

The Constitution is not ala carte, we can confer rights onto illegal citizens by a law but it is not by the Constitution. If you want to argue that someone is allowed some constitutional protections but not others then the government can remove them whenever they want. If you want to argue and illegal gets any constitutional protections you must give them all, any other argument makes the Constitution worthless. Illegals have rights, but not Constitutional rights 

[The Frankish Reich]

7 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

The Constitution is not ala carte, we can confer rights onto illegal citizens by a law but it is not by the Constitution. If you want to argue that someone is allowed some constitutional protections but not others then the government can remove them whenever they want. If you want to argue and illegal gets any constitutional protections you must give them all, any other argument makes the Constitution worthless. Illegals have rights, but not Constitutional rights 

OK, this is just nonsense.

I just explained to you - seriously, because I generally respect you as a poster here - that the structure of the constitution itself makes it clear that some provisions of the Bill of Rights apply to illegal aliens and some do not. You either didn't read or comprehend that. I don't know what else to say when someone repeats a jingoistic "the constitution is not an ala carte menu" without trying to understand.

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