Reliable Media Creating Illegal Alien Deportation Victim False Narratives

[BillsFanNC]

31 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Bonus points to you for Rob Deer. 
 

 

Rob "Bomba" Deer

 

I had all the Berman nicknames memorized back in the day.

[Wacka]

El Salvador should lock up those Congress swamp critters as soon as they set foot in their country for interfering with their govt.

[Roundybout]

6 minutes ago, Wacka said:

El Salvador should lock up those Congress swamp critters as soon as they set foot in their country for interfering with their govt.

This would be an act of war lmao 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Wacka]

Why? They would not be going there under the US Govt OK but on their own. If I go to any country  and insist they do something, I would be locked up. 

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, Wacka said:

El Salvador should lock up those Congress swamp critters as soon as they set foot in their country for interfering with their govt.

Nah, just laugh them off. 
 

Congressmen taking the mask off and grandstanding for anyone but actual Americans is the best thing they can do for their 2026 opponents. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

6 hours ago, B-Man said:

Going to El Salvador to ask for an El Salvador citizen, who was an illegal alien in the US, and is a gang member,

to be returned to the US where he has a deportation order in place.

 

 

part of the reason Trump is allowing all this craziness to happen is Dems are fighting to return to the US an admitted member of MS13, no one with an ounce of sense thinks the Dems are the good guys here, at best they are helping a scumbag skirt justice by "following the rule of law". 

[The Frankish Reich]

5 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

part of the reason Trump is allowing all this craziness to happen is Dems are fighting to return to the US an admitted member of MS13, no one with an ounce of sense thinks the Dems are the good guys here, at best they are helping a scumbag skirt justice by "following the rule of law". 

Really?

The people demanding that the government follow the rule of law are the bad guys? I thought we were a government of laws, not of the whims of one man.

Except it was an argument that DID win, at least before the immigration judge, at least to the extent that he could not legally be sent back to El Salvador.

By not appealing the government accepted that decision. 

The Trump Administration did not appeal and accepted that decision.

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Really?

The people demanding that the government follow the rule of law are the bad guys? I thought we were a government of laws, not of the whims of one man.

When it comes to immigration we allowed Biden carte blanche, so Trump should be afforded same. But in this case there is no law that was followed to keep him here, it was the whim of the judge. Trump is showing how crazy y'all are that you will protect an admitted gang member but went to the ends of the earth to convict J6 people for years who were non violent and did nothing except trespassing. 

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

When it comes to immigration we allowed Biden carte blanche, so Trump should be afforded same

And this is what some of us saw coming.

Proper response: we are going to follow the law. Enforce it as written. End the lax Biden "we'll pick and choose what deportable aliens get to stay" lawbreaking.

Improper response: you did it, we'll do it too. And then your guy will get elected again someday and do whatever the hell he wants.

 

It's all about revenge, not about doing things right.

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And this is what some of us saw coming.

Proper response: we are going to follow the law. Enforce it as written. End the lax Biden "we'll pick and choose what deportable aliens get to stay" lawbreaking.

Improper response: you did it, we'll do it too. And then your guy will get elected again someday and do whatever the hell he wants.

 

It's all about revenge, not about doing things right.

are you admitting that what Biden did was illegal or just making an argument? Big difference here. 

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

are you admitting that what Biden did was illegal or just making an argument? Big difference here. 

I've said it before: I think DACA was contrary to law. That's lawyer talk for "illegal."

I also think widespread catch-and-release was contrary to law.

I also think sending someone back to a country when a judge's final order says you can't do that is contrary to law.

I also think using a 1798 statute predicated on us being in a state of war with Venezuela to deport people notwithstanding the specific immigration laws is illegal.

 

Am I the last American standing who can think for himself? Who isn't a puppet of his favorite politician's talking points?

Edited 15 hours ago by The Frankish Reich

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I've said it before: I think DACA was contrary to law. That's lawyer talk for "illegal."

I also think widespread catch-and-release was contrary to law.

I also think sending someone back to a country when a judge's final order says you can't do that is contrary to law.

I also think using a 1798 statute predicated on us being in a state of war with Venezuela to deport people notwithstanding the specific immigration laws is illegal.

 

Am I the last American standing who can think for himself? Who isn't a puppet of his favorite politician's talking points?

No l was simply surprised you think such and changes my argument drastically. I accept what Trump is doing, especially in regards to this gang member from Maryland, because he is trying to get America back to a solid footing on immigration. I personally know two people who have spent years trying to to get through the system properly and have had more movement since Mid February then since 2022. Trump is trying to make it easier for legal immigrants and harder to be illegal, and using every play he can find, especially if it allows him to go around judges who have deemed themselves the arbiters of national policy. 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

No l was simply surprised you think such and changes my argument drastically. I accept what Trump is doing, especially in regards to this gang member from Maryland, because he is trying to get America back to a solid footing on immigration. I personally know two people who have spent years trying to to get through the system properly and have had more movement since Mid February then since 2022. Trump is trying to make it easier for legal immigrants and harder to be illegal, and using every play he can find, especially if it allows him to go around judges who have deemed themselves the arbiters of national policy. 

Well, I just can't agree with the last part here. Judges make decisions based on the law and their findings of fact. The Trump Administration has done some truly unprecedented things, and the scope of presidential power needs to be reviewed by courts if we are to remain true to the checks and balances our founding fathers wisely provided us.

 

As for Abrego, this one alien: it was an error, a mistake. As a government we must make our best efforts to fix our mistakes. That's common sense and good governance. It's also the law here.

[Homelander]

2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

It's also the law here.

 

Bless your heart.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

No l was simply surprised you think such and changes my argument drastically. I accept what Trump is doing, especially in regards to this gang member from Maryland, because he is trying to get America back to a solid footing on immigration. I personally know two people who have spent years trying to to get through the system properly and have had more movement since Mid February then since 2022. Trump is trying to make it easier for legal immigrants and harder to be illegal, and using every play he can find, especially if it allows him to go around judges who have deemed themselves the arbiters of national policy. 

Really?  He wants to send homegrown Americans to that prison. You good with that?  Remember, Auschwitz wasn’t in Germany.   You’re saying the ends justify the means. That never works out well. 

[Homelander]

On the left: the most powerful person in the world in a black undershirt. On the right: Putin’s B word, dressed for obedience and begging for relevance. 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillsFanNC]

Nailed it.

 

Consider that Joe Biden allowed approximately 20 million illegal aliens into our country. This placed extraordinary burdens on our country--our schools, hospitals, housing, and other essential services were overwhelmed. On top of that, many of these illegal aliens committed violent crimes, or facilitated fentanyl and sex trafficking. That is the situation we inherited.

 

The American people elected the Trump administration to solve this problem. The President has successfully stopped the inflow of illegal aliens, and now we must deport the people who came here illegally. 

To say the administration must observe "due process" is to beg the question: what process is due is a function of our resources, the public interest, the status of the accused, the proposed punishment, and so many other factors. To put it in concrete terms, imposing the death penalty on an American citizen requires more legal process than deporting an illegal alien to their country of origin.

 

When the media and the far left obsess over an MS-13 gang member and demand that he be returned to the United States for a *third* deportation hearing, what they're really saying is they want the vast majority of illegal aliens to stay here permanently. 

Here's a useful test: ask the people weeping over the lack of due process what precisely they propose for dealing with Biden's millions and millions of illegals. And with reasonable resource and administrative judge constraints, does their solution allow us to deport at least a few million people per year?

 

If the answer is no, they've given their game away. They don't want border security. They don't want us to deport the people who've come into our country illegally. They want to accomplish through fake legal process what they failed to accomplish politically: 

 

The ratification of Biden's illegal migrant invasion. 

 

President Trump and I will not stand fori t.

[BillsFanNC]