TSW Mock 1.0 - The Packers (EmotionallyUnstable) are on the clock

[gonzo1105]

Tyler Shough is going to be the 4th QB taken in this draft. Have had him as my # 4 since day 1

[section122]

7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

 

Yep just like they will be chasing a corner. It's deja vu. 

 

I am interested to see what corners are still on the board when we get to our second pick.  That would add some context to what we did in round 1 here. 

 

Let's not forget the Eagles needed secondary help badly last year and doubled up in round 1 and 2.  The picks ended up being very good but let's not pretend like they didn't draft for need just last year. (and like most teams do each year)

 

I love your second point though and why I love these mock drafts.  They give people a good idea of what happens depending on what position is selected in each round.  I think a 1T that can be a difference maker is much more likely to be available at the picks in round 2 than a say 1 cb but Kenneth Grant is also my draft crush this year so I have to be fluid.

[Logic]

35 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

They coulda took Dejean last year, but were chasing the WR.

 

27 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Yep just like they will be chasing a corner. It's deja vu. 

 

I am interested to see what corners are still on the board when we get to our second pick.  That would add some context to what we did in round 1 here. 

I (and others) have mentioned here recently: Beane has a frustrating tendency to leave one major need for the draft and then draft a player at that position with an early pick come hell or high water.

It's a bad strategy because it telegraphs our draft plans to other teams (allowing them to jump ahead of us) and forces Beane to draft for need instead of taking BPA. He gives lip service to BPA, but he doesn't actually subscribe to it. In round 1 and 2, he's usually a "need" drafter. It's very frustrating.

There are only a few things that Beane does that drive me nuts and, in my view, are not good GM practice. This early round draft tendency of his is definitely one of them. Maybe the BIGGEST one. Extremely frustrating.

[OldTimer1960]

2 hours ago, Logic said:

 

I (and others) have mentioned here recently: Beane has a frustrating tendency to leave one major need for the draft and then draft a player at that position with an early pick come hell or high water.

It's a bad strategy because it telegraphs our draft plans to other teams (allowing them to jump ahead of us) and forces Beane to draft for need instead of taking BPA. He gives lip service to BPA, but he doesn't actually subscribe to it. In round 1 and 2, he's usually a "need" drafter. It's very frustrating.

There are only a few things that Beane does that drive me nuts and, in my view, are not good GM practice. This early round draft tendency of his is definitely one of them. Maybe the BIGGEST one. Extremely frustrating.

Agree that leaving a major need for a starter is not optimal for the draft, but there  is only so much cap room and they just invested in Christian Benford.  I would love to have a viable starter option in a vet on the roster so that they don’t have to force a CB, but who is available that they can fit under the cap?  It definitely makes me uncomfortable thinking that they HAVE to find a rookie to start at CB or else looking at Dane Jackson starting/playing more than is optimal.

[Logic]

7 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Agree that leaving a major need for a starter is not optimal for the draft, but there  is only so much cap room and they just invested in Christian Benford.  I would love to have a viable starter option in a vet on the roster so that they don’t have to force a CB, but who is available that they can fit under the cap?  It definitely makes me uncomfortable thinking that they HAVE to find a rookie to start at CB or else looking at Dane Jackson starting/playing more than is optimal.

I don't think there's a solution left at this point, short of trading with another team for a corner.

I suppose this would've been a situation where different allocation of cap moneys in free agency would've been the answer. But as you say, there's only so many cap dollars to go around.

Still...it's a frustrating pattern with Beane. It has happened this way multiple years now. Too often to be considered an aberration or an occasional "we were just cap strapped this year". It seems like it happens almost every single year. Not ideal.

[Ralonzo]

I think @GunnerBill said something about being on a plane today? It's been 3 hours, so based on Chicago's team needs and his posts, I think I have an idea who he might target with this pick.

 

In lieu of Gunner, I think he'd pick: Nic Scourton EDGE Texas A&M

 

Chicago had a huge void at running back that was filled by Ashton Jeanty at pick #10. But, both OL and DL need some serious help. The OL depth has been pretty well plundered, I have Donovan Jackson top of board here and am not convinced he's a value pick here. Montez Sweat is the splash signing for Chicago so while EDGE isn't the greatest need, Odeyingbo is pencilled as the opposite starter. But surely, Scourton is sticking way up on the board at this pick, and we know Gunner likes the player, just a matter if he feels it's a fit in Chicago - but checking with the Chicago media, I see some mocking this player at this spot, so it sure seems like a fit.

Edited yesterday at 09:21 PM by Ralonzo

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

I think @GunnerBill said something about being on a plane today? It's been 3 hours, so based on Chicago's team needs and his posts, I think I have an idea who he might target with this pick.

 

In lieu of Gunner, I think he'd pick: Nic Scourton EDGE Texas A&M

 

Chicago had a huge void at running back that was filled by Ashton Jeanty at pick #10. But, both OL and DL need some serious help. The OL depth has been pretty well plundered, I have Donovan Jackson top of board here and am not convinced he's a value pick here. Montez Sweat is the splash signing for Chicago so while EDGE isn't the greatest need, Odeyingbo is pencilled as the opposite starter. But surely, Scourton is sticking way up on the board at this pick, and we know Gunner likes the player, just a matter if he feels it's a fit in Chicago - but checking with the Chicago media, I see some mocking this player at this spot, so it sure seems like a fit.

 

I'm fine with this pick. Just landed. Will make my next pick in about half an hour.

[Ralonzo]

10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

With the 40th pick, the New Orleans Saints select Maxwell Hairston, CB, Kentucky. Corner is our biggest need. Hairston’s speed and history in the SEC make him an easy fit for our team. We see him as a day one starter and important piece of our future.
 

@GunnerBill and the Chicago Bears are back on the clock. 

 

Hairston was selected #36 by @TPS / the Jaguars. Can you try that again?

Edited 23 hours ago by Ralonzo

[Kirby Jackson]

12 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Hairston was selected #36 by @TPS / the Jaguars. Can you try that again?

Lol, I went back through it and missed it. 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

With the 40th pick, The New Orleans Sants  select Azareye’h Thomas, CB, Florida State. 

Corner is our biggest need. Thomas is a long and physical corner that will contribute early. We see him as a day one starter and important piece of our future.
 

@GunnerBill and the Chicago Bears are back on the clock. 

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, I went back through it and missed it. 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

With the 40th pick, The New Orleans Sants  select Azareye’h Thomas, CB, Florida State. 

Corner is our biggest need. Thomas is a long and physical corner that will contribute early. We see him as a day one starter and important piece of our future.
 

@GunnerBill and the Chicago Bears are back on the clock. 

 

Ha. I will get to it shortly. Probably not immediately as in back of uber and get car sick looking at phone!

[nosejob]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Agree that leaving a major need for a starter is not optimal for the draft, but there  is only so much cap room and they just invested in Christian Benford.  I would love to have a viable starter option in a vet on the roster so that they don’t have to force a CB, but who is available that they can fit under the cap?  It definitely makes me uncomfortable thinking that they HAVE to find a rookie to start at CB or else looking at Dane Jackson starting/playing more than is optimal.

De'Ja'vu ? 2022 Draft a CB no matter what. One who I don't believe was a day one starter IIRC. If it wasn't for hitting on Benford, it would still be a sore subject.

Does Beane wanna go there again?

[GunnerBill]

With the 41st pick of the 2025 TSW Mock Draft extravaganzza version 1.0, Da Bears select:

 

Luther Burden III, Wide Reciever, Missouri. 

 

This would probably have been my pick at #39 and I'd have addressed Dline here. But it works out the other way around. This season for Chicago is about one thing and one thing only - how do we evaluate Caleb Williams? So you have to give him as much around him as you can. The Bears need an upgrade at left tackle but the left tackles are all off the board and I am not doing the Bears thing of taking a right tackle and pretending he might be able to play left, see Jenkins, Tevin and Wright, Darnell. So I am gonna give them a weapon. I am on record earlier in the process saying I thought Burden was slightly overrated when he was seen as a top 20 pick. I don't think he is that. He is a weapon with the ball in his hands but he isn't a route runner. He is ideal in the slot where you can just tell him to find space and be available to his quarterback and where Ben Johnson can scheme things up for him. Here he represents really good value and while the Bears signed a couple of slot receivers in free agency in Zaccheaus and Duvernay they were both to peanuts contract wise. I'm not gonna go into 2026 not knowing on my Quarterback. It's time to put up or shut up.

 

@DJB and the New Jersey Jets are now on the clock.

Edited 22 hours ago by GunnerBill

[DJB]

With the 42nd pick in the NFL draft the

J   E   T   S, JETS JETS JETS select;

 

Colston Loveland Michigan 

 

The Jets are thrilled that Loveland is still available at pick 42 believing that he is a 1st round talent and best TE in the class . While pass rusher was also considered as it is a big need we felt that adding a quarterbacks best friend in TE Loveland will help develop our young QB in Justin Fields or potentially his future replacement down the line . G Wilson also gets a running mate to cause havoc and focus on the middle of the field to open things up on the perimeter for him. The Jets TE’s in 2024 were amongst the worst both in pass catching and run blocking. Loveland at least addresses one of those concerns. 
 

Owner Woody Johnson is ecstatic .

 

@H2o now OTC 

Edited 12 hours ago by DJB

[QLBillsFan]

6 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Not sure if he’s better than Wilson year one, but if my career was on the line as a HC, I would take the gamble over relying on a QB that’s done nothing the last 4 seasons. 

Wilson actually played pretty well in Denver. Well enough to beat the Bills on the road. Last year he had the Steelers on a roll and then to your point wasn’t very good the last few games. To expect SS to start and do as well Wilson and have more W’s is not something I would sign up for. It will be interesting to see how it plays out 👍

[Virgil]

Since we are hitting the evening, @H2o has until 9am tomorrow to make his selection.  

[scuba guy]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

Since we are hitting the evening, @H2o has until 9am tomorrow to make his selection.  

Boo I just got out of the pool to see where we are and your going to sleep.  Gunner just got off a plane brother.

 

 

[TheWeatherMan]

1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said:

Wilson actually played pretty well in Denver. Well enough to beat the Bills on the road. Last year he had the Steelers on a roll and then to your point wasn’t very good the last few games. To expect SS to start and do as well Wilson and have more W’s is not something I would sign up for. It will be interesting to see how it plays out 👍

Please reference his 2024 stats, statistically it was his 2nd worst season at QB.  2023 was better, but not great.  He was replaced with a rookie QB that led Denver to a playoff birth.  

[mannc]

1 hour ago, DJB said:

With the 42nd pick in the NFL draft the

J   E   T   S, JETS JETS JETS select;

 

Colston Loveland Michigan 

 

The Jets are thrilled that Loveland is still available at pick 42 believing that he is a 1st round talent . While pass rusher was also considered as it is a big need we felt that adding a quarterbacks best friend in TE Loveland will help develop our young QB in Justin Fields or potentially his future replacement down the line . G Wilson also gets a running mate to cause havoc and focus on the middle of the field to open things up on the perimeter for him. The Jets TE’s in 2024 were amongst the worst both in pass catching and run blocking. Loveland at least addresses one of those concerns. 
 

Owner Woody Johnson is thrilled 

 

@H2o now OTC 

Great pick.  He def won’t be available in the middle of round 2 IRL…

[QLBillsFan]

1 minute ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Please reference his 2024 stats, statistically it was his 2nd worst season at QB.  2023 was better, but not great.  He was replaced with a rookie QB that led Denver to a playoff birth.  

I didn’t say anything about stats. Which are often important but don’t tell the whole story. I said he beat the Bills on the road and played well. And led Denver to 2-3 wins over expected in 2023. Last year as you recall he replaced Fields in week 7. I’ll reference that as impacting his stats. The Steelers were better with him on offense than with Fields. He had Passer Ratings of 98 and 95. Ranking 8th and 14th. While not anything but slightly above average it’s well above what Jones gave the Giants. Given that SS is known to hold the ball too long and has an average arm I would suggest Wilson starts. On a relatively bad team he gives The Giants the best chance to win.  

[H2o]

With the 43rd pick.....in the 2025 NFL draft.....the San Francisco 49ers select...

 

TJ Sanders, Defensive Tackle, South Carolina

 

Tough selection here. I had about 3 players I really liked at this spot. But no question, a fit for our defense who lost Javon Hargrave and Maliek Collins on the DL. He has heavy hands, and is a powerful force on the interior. A lot of times you see him just push a blocker into the backfield, disrupting the QB. He holds his ground well and can disengage to bring down ball carriers. He is also twitchy for a big guy and can create some pressure. 

 

@Doc Brown and the Cowboys are on the clock.