TSW Mock 1.0 - Completed

[DJB]

With the 73rd pick in the 2025 NFL draft , the New York Jets are proud to select from Ohio State, Quinshon Judkins, RB. 
 

With Breece Hall entering the final year of his contract and the decision to not allocate financial resources to the RB position as we have needs of elsewhere, this was a slam dunk easy decision in round 3. In any other year Judkins could have easily been the 2nd RB off the board and we have him graded as an early 2nd round selection. Judkins brings toughness and 3 down ability and we were happy to continue to select players based on BPA strategy. With Judkins and B Allen , along with Fields at QB and our round 1 selection of Membou, we are forming a ground and pound bullying up front at the line of scrimmage team identity. 
 

This concludes the Jets draft and we are thrilled at how this played out for us. 
 

@QLBillsFanIs now OTC

Edited April 7 by DJB

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

At combine, Bills met with 6 safeties, including Starks, Emmanwori, Watts and Mukuba.

 

They absolutely can draft a safety with one of their first three picks.

 

Yea I think it is definitely in play. 

7 hours ago, mannc said:

After Terell Bernard and Dorian Williams, you still haven’t learned not to judge day 2 defensive draft picks by their rookie season, especially the ones that were injured as rookies?

 

True but Cole was soooo bad when he was out there. I'm hoping a missed camp meant he was always behind and never caught up because it was almost too bad to be true. 

[DJB]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea I think it is definitely in play. 

 

True but Cole was soooo bad when he was out there. I'm hoping a missed camp meant he was always behind and never caught up because it was almost too bad to be true. 

He was asked to play FS when he was healthy when he’s a SS so we need to cut him some slack. 
 

I don’t think the FO expected Rapp to play as well as he did and earn the starting spot. Even his contract last year told you he was being paid as a fringe starter . 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, DJB said:

He was asked to play FS when he was healthy when he’s a SS so we need to cut him some slack. 
 

I don’t think the FO expected Rapp to play as well as he did and earn the starting spot. Even his contract last year told you he was being paid as a fringe starter . 

 

That is true but he played SS at Houston and gave up two touchdowns - one in the pass game and one in the run game - and he played SS in the AFCCG too and was bad. I know I sound like I am not cutting him slack, I am, I understand the injury out him behind the 8 ball and then he had a stop - start year of playing a bit as a backup and then sitting and then playing etc... and his run support did get a bit better as the season went on. But honestly he was pretty awful. Like the worst player the Bills put out there all year at any spot other than Nicholas Morrow. And I say that as someone who quite liked the selection. I was really, really disappointed in him. He would need a BIG step forward this offseason to win the job IMO. And then an even bigger one to be an above average starter. It can happen, I am rooting for it to happen, but I think there is definitely a world in which he spends 2025 as a backup too. 

[QLBillsFan]

With the 74th pick in the NFL draft, the Carolina Panthers select from Texas, S, Andrew Mukuba. 

 

A four year starter and transfer from Clemson, Mukuba can roam the deep S position for the Panthers. This is part of the D rebuild to add an experienced anchor on the back end. He has great instincts on the ball and will have a chance to immediately start in year one. A great leader he has the potential to be a long term answer for Carolina. 

 

 

 

 

@H2o and the San Francisco 49ers are now on the clock

[BuffaloBillyG]

47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That is true but he played SS at Houston and gave up two touchdowns - one in the pass game and one in the run game - and he played SS in the AFCCG too and was bad. I know I sound like I am not cutting him slack, I am, I understand the injury out him behind the 8 ball and then he had a stop - start year of playing a bit as a backup and then sitting and then playing etc... and his run support did get a bit better as the season went on. But honestly he was pretty awful. Like the worst player the Bills put out there all year at any spot other than Nicholas Morrow. And I say that as someone who quite liked the selection. I was really, really disappointed in him. He would need a BIG step forward this offseason to win the job IMO. And then an even bigger one to be an above average starter. It can happen, I am rooting for it to happen, but I think there is definitely a world in which he spends 2025 as a backup too. 

Problem becomes there are only so many reps available in TC. If they select another Safety high it would limit Bishop's reps as he would need to split some of those. He needs the opportunity to develop. 

 

I would say the likelihood of drafting a safety high hinges on what they see as his reason for being so bad last year. If they feel he's just in over his head they may be open to it. If they feel it was mainly that he was still green due to lost time due to injury, they may double down on getting him ready.

 

I know it's not popular, and I don't agree, but the the likelihood that the Bills view the safety position as less of a need than fans is fairly high IMO. They can make the case in the room that they have both starters returning, Bishop possibly taking a step forward. Again, I don't agree with that but I can definitely see a world that they do.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Problem becomes there are only so many reps available in TC. If they select another Safety high it would limit Bishop's reps as he would need to split some of those. He needs the opportunity to develop. 

 

I would say the likelihood of drafting a safety high hinges on what they see as his reason for being so bad last year. If they feel he's just in over his head they may be open to it. If they feel it was mainly that he was still green due to lost time due to injury, they may double down on getting him ready.

 

I know it's not popular, and I don't agree, but the the likelihood that the Bills view the safety position as less of a need than fans is fairly high IMO. They can make the case in the room that they have both starters returning, Bishop possibly taking a step forward. Again, I don't agree with that but I can definitely see a world that they do.

 

My preference is for them not to use a high pick on a safety. I wanted them to do more in FA last year at the spot and more in FA this year at the spot... instead of yet more middling rotational DL last year and two DL this year who can't play until week 7. But when they did spend the pick they selected a player I liked (although I had Bullock and Hicks higher). I'd like to think they wouldn't spend another day 2 pick but as another poster noted the consensus top 3 safeties all met with the Bills at the combine (they met 6 safeties total). That says to me that it is at least an active possibility for them. 

[MrEpsYtown]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Problem becomes there are only so many reps available in TC. If they select another Safety high it would limit Bishop's reps as he would need to split some of those. He needs the opportunity to develop. 

 

I would say the likelihood of drafting a safety high hinges on what they see as his reason for being so bad last year. If they feel he's just in over his head they may be open to it. If they feel it was mainly that he was still green due to lost time due to injury, they may double down on getting him ready.

 

I know it's not popular, and I don't agree, but the the likelihood that the Bills view the safety position as less of a need than fans is fairly high IMO. They can make the case in the room that they have both starters returning, Bishop possibly taking a step forward. Again, I don't agree with that but I can definitely see a world that they do.

 

See to me, Hamlin and the Cam Lewis should not be on the roster anymore. They are not good. So that leaves Rapp, Bishop, and Forrest (1 year min deal) as safeties. They should totally be adding competition here. Simply handing Bishop a job without real competition is how we have ended up with this high floor, low upside roster that can't win a super bowl. 

[section122]

Spreadsheet up to date: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13E6NwiyWwlG63ERgr8aJWnE67diI_DqCVNDvE4c2U4c/edit?gid=0#gid=0

 

There are still a couple of 1Ts out there.  This is a no trade mock draft so there can't be movement made here but I was just looking at the trade value chart.  If the Bills packaged every pick they had left they could only get as high as San Frans 75th pick.  I think the real draft will have more 1Ts available at this spot but also think the Bills will have had more available at each of their spots so perhaps the position will already have been addressed.

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

My preference is for them not to use a high pick on a safety. I wanted them to do more in FA last year at the spot and more in FA this year at the spot... instead of yet more middling rotational DL last year and two DL this year who can't play until week 7. But when they did spend the pick they selected a player I liked (although I had Bullock and Hicks higher). I'd like to think they wouldn't spend another day 2 pick but as another poster noted the consensus top 3 safeties all met with the Bills at the combine (they met 6 safeties total). That says to me that it is at least an active possibility for them. 

For me, I never take too much from Combine visits. Teams meet with a lot of players in a short time. And I've read sometimes these visits are done as a favor for some agents to start getting momentum for their clients rolling. Rarely do we know the depth of the conversation. Could be just a "get to know ya, make sure we have your contact info correct" or it could be time at the white board. I've compared it to speed dating. I'm watching more to the top 30 visits and what positions they focus on there. Time will tell 

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

See to me, Hamlin and the Cam Lewis should not be on the roster anymore. They are not good. So that leaves Rapp, Bishop, and Forrest (1 year min deal) as safeties. They should totally be adding competition here. Simply handing Bishop a job without real competition is how we have ended up with this high floor, low upside roster that can't win a super bowl. 

For the most part I agree. Though, I do see the value in Lewis as he is versatile and eats up snaps on Special Teams. He's not a guy I'd want to start, but can get you out of a game at several positions. At least there's value there. So while I'm not impressed by him, I get it as to why he's a rosterable player. 

 

I feel like Rapp get a pass too much. He was just as bad if not worse at times than Hamlin but for whatever reason, Hamlin gets put in the cross hairs. I don't think either should be starters but are both ok backups. Would have loved to see a bonafide starter like Holland brought in at least at one position. Forrest to me is a non factor. 

[H2o]

With the 75th pick....in the 2025 NFL Draft....the San Francisco 49ers select.......

 

Kyle Kennard...Defensive End...South Carolina

 

For the 2nd pick in a row we go the South Carolina well on defense. Kennard is a long, lean DE prospect. At this point, he wins more with his speed and finesse than he does his power. He has good swim move, as well as a dip-and-rip. He also finds and shoots gaps on defense effectively to create negative plays at times. At 6'5", he has plenty of room to add to his 254lb frame and increase his play strength. 

 

@Doc Brown and the Cowboys are on the clock. 

Edited April 7 by H2o

[GunnerBill]

22 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

For me, I never take too much from Combine visits. Teams meet with a lot of players in a short time. And I've read sometimes these visits are done as a favor for some agents to start getting momentum for their clients rolling. Rarely do we know the depth of the conversation. Could be just a "get to know ya, make sure we have your contact info correct" or it could be time at the white board. I've compared it to speed dating. I'm watching more to the top 30 visits and what positions they focus on there. Time will tell 

 

 

Individual meetings, sure. But when a team puts that focus on a position does normally indicate they are at least considering it as an option. For example, is Starks was head and shoulders their BPA at #30 I think they'd take him.

[Doc Brown]

With the 76th pick in the 2025 NFL draft the Dallas Cowboys select Jordan Burch, Edge, Oregon.

 

The Cowboys need depth at DE now that Demarcus Lawrence is gone taking shots at Michah Parsons.  We view Jordan as more of a developmental prospect that has the physical traits and body type required to become an effective pass rusher in the NFL.

 

The Patriots @section122are on the clock.

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

My preference is for them not to use a high pick on a safety. I wanted them to do more in FA last year at the spot and more in FA this year at the spot... instead of yet more middling rotational DL last year and two DL this year who can't play until week 7. But when they did spend the pick they selected a player I liked (although I had Bullock and Hicks higher). I'd like to think they wouldn't spend another day 2 pick but as another poster noted the consensus top 3 safeties all met with the Bills at the combine (they met 6 safeties total). That says to me that it is at least an active possibility for them. 

 

I'm ok with a pick in the first 4 rounds being used on a safety, but maybe not 56. In retrospect that was a good slot to grab Swinson. If they can get a trade down scenario with 30 or 62 to get to end up with I hope will be 5 picks in the top 110, a guy like Billy Bowman in the 3rd/4th could be a nice get. If they stick with all the 5ths instead, Caleb Ransaw or your guy Kitan Crawford to develop.

[MrEpsYtown]

31 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

 

For the most part I agree. Though, I do see the value in Lewis as he is versatile and eats up snaps on Special Teams. He's not a guy I'd want to start, but can get you out of a game at several positions. At least there's value there. So while I'm not impressed by him, I get it as to why he's a rosterable player. 

 

I feel like Rapp get a pass too much. He was just as bad if not worse at times than Hamlin but for whatever reason, Hamlin gets put in the cross hairs. I don't think either should be starters but are both ok backups. Would have loved to see a bonafide starter like Holland brought in at least at one position. Forrest to me is a non factor. 

 

I don't hate Rapp, but honestly, I agree with your take here. He's like a replacement-level starter who I still think is a strange fit in this defense. To me, Hamlin should be bagging groceries. And that's why they should be looking for a safety. To me the position is not ok. 

 

You have a guy in Rapp who is replacement level, Bishop who has upside but looked mostly awful last year. Lewis who is jack of all trades on a very low level. Forrest who is a non factor and Hamlin who should not be on an NFL roster. We should 100% be looking for a safety in this pretty strong class of safeties. 

[GunnerBill]

53 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

 

For the most part I agree. Though, I do see the value in Lewis as he is versatile and eats up snaps on Special Teams. He's not a guy I'd want to start, but can get you out of a game at several positions. At least there's value there. So while I'm not impressed by him, I get it as to why he's a rosterable player. 

 

I feel like Rapp get a pass too much. He was just as bad if not worse at times than Hamlin but for whatever reason, Hamlin gets put in the cross hairs. I don't think either should be starters but are both ok backups. Would have loved to see a bonafide starter like Holland brought in at least at one position. Forrest to me is a non factor. 

 

To be clear I totally agree with this half of the post. 

[Virgil]

Just a heads up, we really want this draft to be done by Wednesday/Thursday at the latest, if we want to be able to complete 2.0 and 3.0.  Try to have your picks ready, and if you are going to be away, just DM me with your pick and I can make it for you.  

 

 

[HappyDays]

27 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Forrest who is a non factor

 

I actually have a really good feeling about Forrest. I don't want to overdo it but there are reasons to be optimistic. I think the team really likes him too. This might sound trivial but he did have a full press conference after signing, and under this regime that has been an indication that they see him as almost a roster lock. By my memory the only players that have had press conferences after signing but didn't make the team were OJ Howard and Mike Edwards. So I don't see that as a throwaway or depth signing. He won't be handed the job by any means but if I had to predict right now I'd say Forrest and Rapp end up being the starters.

[section122]

@gonzo1105 is on the clock.

 

The Patriots select Mason Taylor, TE, LSU

 

Patriots finish up the mock with upgrades at DL, OL, WR, and TE.

 

Maye leaned heavily on Hunter Henry last year and gets another big target TE.  Only TE in LSU history with over 100 catches and 1000 yards.  Not the best blocker there is time to develop that in his game.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, section122 said:

@gonzo1105 is on the clock.

 

The Patriots select Mason Taylor, TE, LSU

 

Patriots finish up the mock with upgrades at DL, OL, WR, and TE.

 

Maye leaned heavily on Hunter Henry last year and gets another big target TE.  Only TE in LSU history with over 100 catches and 1000 yards.  Not the best blocker there is time to develop that in his game.

 

Best player remaining. Great pick.