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[Mr. WEO]

38 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

 

 

Biggest screw job from an official since Julio Cesar Chavez Vs. Meldrick Taylor.

 

Nah.  I only documented the worst of the screwups that doomed the Bills in that game.  They were up 16-0 until the Texans scored at the end of the 3rd Q.  They were still in complete command.  Then in the 4th Q, the Offense completely imploded.  O-line was awful. Josh was hero balling.  They had 2 possessions that had them at Texans 25 1st and 10  (no points after Josh grounded the ball and then took a 19 yards sack) and 1st and 10 at the Texans 29 which included 3 incompletes to Duke Williams. 3 points go them to OT.  After the blindside call, the next play was another incomplete to the awful Duke.  Punt.  Then the D gives up a 34 yard run by Watson from midfield. The Bills came out of halftime completely ready to give this game away.

 

  

 

If you re-watched it last night, it all comes crashing back.    

[Steptide]

I watched a little bit of the first half. One thing it made me realize, is how much I miss having a guy like beasley. Ya we have Shakir, but I feel like daboll really knew how to use Bease. I think Shakir could potentially be better though, he's really just getting started 

[buffblue]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The line to gain is the 37. At the point Watson actually plants in the pocket before the pressure forces him to scramble out left (i.e. the point when the called pass should take place) the Bills have 4 rushers, 5 other defenders in the intermediate zone ahead of the sticks and only 2 at or behind the sticks. What happens is Watson breaks contain out to the left and the Bills defenders panic and overplay the deep ball which means by the time Johnson catches it at the 29 the Bills only have 1 player still in that intermediate zone and he is out of the play right on the sidleine. They have all panicked and bailed out. And even then Edmunds gets back to initiate contact 3 yards short of the sticks and Johnson carries him for 3 yards. That isn't on coaching. That is a pure execution failure.

I disagree on ultimate responsibility. If multiple players are that far out of position on a easy to stop 3rd and forever play, that would seem to point as much to the defensive coaching as execution. This isn't the first time we've disagreed on the Bills 3rd and long failures. We just see it differently. You have been a pretty ardent Frazier defender over time it seems.

 

And yes, I realize this does not absolve the failures of subsequent defensive coaches, or ultimately McDermott. Frazier did produce some good results here.

Edited Monday at 05:43 PM by buffblue

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, buffblue said:

I disagree on ultimate responsibility. If  multiple players are that far out of position on a easy to stop 3rd and long play, that would seem to point as much to the defensive coaching as execution. This isn't the first time we've disagreed on the Bills 3rd and long failures. We just see it differently. You have been a pretty ardent Frazier defender over time it seems.

 

And yes, I realize this does not absolve the failures of subsequent defensive coaches, or ultimately McDermott. Frazier did produce some good results here.

 

I have been an ardent defender of Frazier because most of the virtriol that comes his way is simply ill informed.

 

On the play in the "structured" part of the play the Bills were in the right positons. When the play broke down the players panicked.

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Nah.  I only documented the worst of the screwups that doomed the Bills in that game.  They were up 16-0 until the Texans scored at the end of the 3rd Q.  They were still in complete command.  Then in the 4th Q, the Offense completely imploded.  O-line was awful. Josh was hero balling.  They had 2 possessions that had them at Texans 25 1st and 10  (no points after Josh grounded the ball and then took a 19 yards sack) and 1st and 10 at the Texans 29 which included 3 incompletes to Duke Williams. 3 points go them to OT.  After the blindside call, the next play was another incomplete to the awful Duke.  Punt.  Then the D gives up a 34 yard run by Watson from midfield. The Bills came out of halftime completely ready to give this game away.

 

  

 

If you re-watched it last night, it all comes crashing back.    

I don't have to re-watch it.

 

I remember it vividly.

 

We got royally screwed over by the refs on that play!

[JESSEFEFFER]

23 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Classic McD playoff game. 

Coaches had little to do with the failures here, imo.  Multitude of players taking turns screwing up.  

[PromoTheRobot]

51 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Coaches had little to do with the failures here, imo.  Multitude of players taking turns screwing up.  

Not to mention the refs.

[eball]

On 3/31/2025 at 8:58 AM, JerseyBills said:

Booger is terrible,  not sure how he got in that position in the first place 

 

Don’t forget Tessitore.  He’s still one of their main guys, and he’s awful.

 

[ryguy101]

2 hours ago, eball said:

 

Don’t forget Tessitore.  He’s still one of their main guys, and he’s awful.

 

he hasn't called an NFL game in 5 years

[BigDingus]

I still can't watch this game.

 

Josh's ridiculous panic lateral at the end had me thinking he had no composure & would just panic in big moments. Thanks goodness I was wrong, but every time I see that replay, I now think "thank god he didn't turn out like Will Levis..."