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10 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Bills blow a 16-0 lead, allowing 19 unanswered prior to our FG force OT. Precursor to the next few years as far as a team that can't get it done in the postseason and finds ways to lose.  

Why do you follow this team?  LOL.

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16 minutes ago, buffblue said:

The 3rd and 18 conversion Buffalo gave up in OT was emblematic of Leslie Frazier's entire tenure in Buffalo. Just Charmin soft


Giving up 3rd and plenty has happened a lot since he has been gone too

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Why do you follow this team?  LOL.

Wish I had a choice at this point, if I did, I wouldn't. Besides, do I have to like everything that they do to be a fan?

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12 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Wish I had a choice at this point, if I did, I wouldn't. Besides, do I have to like everything that they do to be a fan?

I mean I watch this game and am amazed Josh Allen could've had eight turnovers in this game and only had eight turnovers last season.  I forgot how loose with the ball he was.

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Just now, Doc Brown said:

I mean I watch this game and am amazed Josh Allen could've had eight turnovers in this game and only had eight turnovers last season.  I forgot how loose with the ball he was.

During the entirety of the drought I was Mr. Sunshine on here. I feel like I tend to take on the opposing view of the tide. At the very least, debate it for the sake of balance. 

 

As for your comments on Allen, I think the same Allen is still inside him. Certainly WAY more polished. I give a lot of credit to Brady with Josh. He brackets Allen into a lot of quick passes, screens, RB throws, and we run lot. Allen can't do the superman stuff on over 60% of his calls. Which helps his rhythm and decision making on the play calls he does have a chance to adlib more. As a whole, compared to the Dorsey three point offense, it leads to lower raw output but clearly better results.  

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Posted
8 hours ago, buffblue said:

The 3rd and 18 conversion Buffalo gave up in OT was emblematic of Leslie Frazier's entire tenure in Buffalo. Just Charmin soft

 

What was he supposed to do? Run down and make the tackle? He had the right D called. His players failed to execute.

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I will never forget or understand the 3rd down QB-sweep right, where Josh had three blockers in front of him, and all three just stood and watched as the linebacker shot in untouched and lit Josh up for a loss on the play, ending the drive.

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7 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

This game sucked, but it was the game that confirmed to me JA17 was going to be a superstar QB and we would be Super Bowl contenders.

Maybe for you it did, but we had 12 pages of debate on the subject in the aftermath of the game:

 

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

What was he supposed to do? Run down and make the tackle? He had the right D called. His players failed to execute.

To me it appeared the entire defensive backfield and Edmunds were at or behind the line to gain of the 37 yard line. When the ball was dumped off to Duke Johnson there was literally no one on the screen around him. Should've never happened, but I would believe that alignment to be more on the coaching staff than the players.

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13 minutes ago, buffblue said:

To me it appeared the entire defensive backfield and Edmunds were at or behind the line to gain of the 37 yard line. When the ball was dumped off to Duke Johnson there was literally no one on the screen around him. Should've never happened, but I would believe that alignment to be more on the coaching staff than the players.

 

The line to gain is the 37. At the point Watson actually plants in the pocket before the pressure forces him to scramble out left (i.e. the point when the called pass should take place) the Bills have 4 rushers, 5 other defenders in the intermediate zone ahead of the sticks and only 2 at or behind the sticks. What happens is Watson breaks contain out to the left and the Bills defenders panic and overplay the deep ball which means by the time Johnson catches it at the 29 the Bills only have 1 player still in that intermediate zone and he is out of the play right on the sidleine. They have all panicked and bailed out. And even then Edmunds gets back to initiate contact 3 yards short of the sticks and Johnson carries him for 3 yards. That isn't on coaching. That is a pure execution failure.

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Posted
14 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Good looks!

 

Shame what happened to Watson,  damn he was exciting.

 

Trent Murphy 🤣 

That holding call was HUGE

I absolutely hated Murphy. 
 

Watson was a top 5 qb at that time. 
 

Allen played like he was on drugs. But it was a hell of a ride. 

13 hours ago, buffblue said:

The 3rd and 18 conversion Buffalo gave up in OT was emblematic of Leslie Frazier's entire tenure in Buffalo. Just Charmin soft

Defense has been worse since Frazier left. 

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I always wonder what would have happened if the Bills won that game.

 

Their draft position would have been worse and I wonder if they still would have obtained Diggs in that trade.  The Patriots loss that weekend too.  I think the Vikings would have sent him there and Brady would have stuck around.  Just my theory. 

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15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

tough call for the Bills but obviously his intent was not to run it out.  "eye In the sky" was used for spotting neuro injuries at that time.

The rule was still that they needed to kneel the ball down. He didn't do that.

44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The line to gain is the 37. At the point Watson actually plants in the pocket before the pressure forces him to scramble out left (i.e. the point when the called pass should take place) the Bills have 4 rushers, 5 other defenders in the intermediate zone ahead of the sticks and only 2 at or behind the sticks. What happens is Watson breaks contain out to the left and the Bills defenders panic and overplay the deep ball which means by the time Johnson catches it at the 29 the Bills only have 1 player still in that intermediate zone and he is out of the play right on the sidleine. They have all panicked and bailed out. And even then Edmunds gets back to initiate contact 3 yards short of the sticks and Johnson carries him for 3 yards. That isn't on coaching. That is a pure execution failure.

Don't you know that everything is always on the coaches? Even when players are in position and fail to do their job, it is on the coaches! Always!

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Posted
15 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Second half kick still remains a mystery to me. I mean how can the refs in the sky make a call based on what they feel was the return mans intent.

 

15 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

He did do the safe signal thing.  I have never seen the “dark ref” dressed in all black run out like that. Just bad officiating.  

 

15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

tough call for the Bills but obviously his intent was not to run it out.  "eye In the sky" was used for spotting neuro injuries at that time.

Biggest screw job from an official since Julio Cesar Chavez Vs. Meldrick Taylor.

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14 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

The full Josh Allen experience in that one.

-Catches passing TD

-Two 30 plus yard runs

-Rolling right a bunch of times and making unbelievable throws to Knox, Brown, Duke Williams, and Singletary.

-Fumbling up 8

-Throwing into triple coverage to a fullback.

-Trying to leap defenders six yards from the first down marker on 3rd down.

-A blind lateral to Knox in overtime with multiple defenders on him going down.

This one is gold.

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