Benford Extended 4 Years - 76 million

[Dr. Who]

44 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I mostly agree but not about a 1T at 30.  To me that would be the exact opposite of aiming high and taking the risk of failure.  You are 100% right that Roseman is willing to swing for the fences.  Beane - despite his hilariously wrong “Big Baller” nickname - nearly always plays it safe and hits it down the fairway and in that sense he and McD are in lockstep.  They are a risk-mitigating organization even though they otherwise operate well.  “We’ll blitz but only if we play our DBs way back just in case…”. “Make sure we have a vet in every position room because we need to keep the kids on mission in case the coaching doesn’t take.”  “We’ll move around the draft board but only if we don’t lose too many mid-round picks.”  “We’ll pay for veteran receivers but only after we buy three more vet linemen because Sean’s defense needs new old blood every year.”

 

A one tech at 30 would be a pure safe need pick that is super unlikely to get a second contract and if they did it would likely be a bad use of cap dollars. 

I understand. I just really like Grant.

[HOUSE]

We have no money for such nonsense 🙄 

[Coffeesforclosers]

5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Beane is a wizard.

 

If Beane could map his ability to juggle the books onto scouting D Linemen this year....

[Coach Tuesday]

22 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I understand. I just really like Grant.

If he performs can you pay him?  What if the league inevitably switches back to a passing league?

[SoonerBillsFan]

37 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

If he performs can you pay him?  What if the league inevitably switches back to a passing league?

Grant can push the pocket.

[TheBeaneBandit]

17 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Grant can push the pocket.

That's what gets me to agree to a 1st round pick right there. I'm only taking a 1tech in the 1st round if he can collapse the pocket consistently as well. A guy like that could really transform our defense.

[Dr. Who]

58 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

If he performs can you pay him?  What if the league inevitably switches back to a passing league?

I suppose I think he can provide some interior pass rush, as SoonerBillsFan suggests. And then you would pay him. But if I'm wrong on that, my fall back plan is to go after Collins in the second. Beane either goes CB or Edge most likely at #30 then, though I'm not sure I like any of the DE there unless someone unexpected falls. 

Edited Sunday at 04:14 PM by Dr. Who

[QLBillsFan]

11 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Hufanga, Holland, Milton Williams, Metcalf and even Reddick would have represented the potential for elite play at positions of dire need and they were all available. I'm sure there are other trades that were possible that didn't materialize as well.

I understand the reluctance to be critical of Beane's approach because all the players he re-signed are very good football players. It's hard to look at a team with a lot of good players on it and think it's a poorly constructed roster. I hope the board is right that building a team with an old school Steelers-esque approach of having a very solid roster will net you enough kicks at the can that eventually you win one. I just don't like the odds of that approach based on the teams we'll have to get through.

No. I want them to do whatever they have to do every season to have the best possible shot. Instead, Beane is sacrificing this season, just as he did last year, so that he can protect future seasons.

You are the only person I’ve experienced who says Hufanga, Holland, and Milton are elite. Heavy overpays by all accounts. Metcalf and Reddick are good but not elite. FA overpays isnt how rosters are built for success in the NFL. It’s primarily via the draft and keeping your own good players. He’s sacrificed this season by not overpaying in FA for above average players but keeping his own at below market value? Benford  is a better value than any player you have listed. Good chat it’s clear we won’t agree. But I wish you good day sir. Go Bills 👍

[PrimeTime101]

On 3/29/2025 at 12:05 PM, Utah John said:

Now, Cook.

I defend my pukes.

 

I puked to this reply because John.. He is not worth what he is asking. I can not see that contract. per his snap count.  I need to see cook out there 80% of the snaps and pulling same averages to buy what he is selling in himself. That being said.. this topic is not about cook.. so lets just move forward on that instead of a big back and forth yea?

[QLBillsFan]

6 hours ago, FireChans said:

None of those players were FAs haha.

 

Probably 90% of the money spent by Beane this offseason was keeping pieces of that 2024 roster through 2026 and beyond. Not improving the 2025 roster. 
 

I like the Benford deal. I’m ambivalent on the Bernard deal. I don’t like the Rousseau deal. I like the Shakir deal.

 

I think if you told the board heading into FA that our big offseason moves were going to be big money extensions to 4 existing players, a moderate overpay for Josh Palmer, a one year deal for Joey Boss and then rotation guys, it would be received with massive disappointment tbh. 

That’s fine as an opinion. What exactly what you have done? Provide examples. Traded a 1st for Metcalf and a $30M contract ? Milton Williams at $21M ? Just wondering 🤷🏻‍♂️

[QLBillsFan]

5 hours ago, FireChans said:

The problem is certainly not with the retentions on their face.

 

I would say that easily 90% of this board agrees that Benford’s extension was a good deal for Buffalo.

Their issue is that it’s being spun as we could only sign the PED crew and Josh Palmer because we HAD to pay Benford, Bernard etc etc. 

Which is not only not true, it makes those extensions seem worse if that was the cost associated with them.

So just sign Benford?  What exactly would you have done? Let the rest go and do what? Sign Milton for $21M.. this DT draft is outstanding. I fully expect the Bills to take both a 1 and 3 tech DT. A CB #2 opposite Benford. Then draft or go into FA next year to replace the rest ?

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

That’s fine as an opinion. What exactly what you have done? Provide examples. Traded a 1st for Metcalf and a $30M contract ? Milton Williams at $21M ? Just wondering 🤷🏻‍♂️

DK for 2nd and 4th of course. 
 

that’s not really the point in this topic though. The point is that extending those players at this point isn’t really upgrading the team. It’s keeping the team the team together.

[colin]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

DK for 2nd and 4th of course. 
 

that’s not really the point in this topic though. The point is that extending those players at this point isn’t really upgrading the team. It’s keeping the team the team together.

 

that's true, i think the mindset of the FO is that the new coaches on D, adding bosa and hoyt and that dt from pittz,  and whoever we add in the draft is gonna result in a better team -- along w bishop and williams and carter growing up, and kinkaid and coleman getting right on O.

 

i agree we shoulda added real blue chip talent, but the only DL who seemed to be at a high level who was actually available was hendrickson (i really wanted garrett) and at WR it was maybe adams (if he woulda signed, not certain at all) and the dk trade.  i thought dk signed for too much tho.

 

if i had my way, and we coulda gotten him for not so much in draft picks, i woulda not extended bernard, not signed palmer and the dt from pittz, and gotten DK -- but the d needs help so i kinda get it.

 

beane needs his picks from last year to show improve or to have a total monster draft this season IMO.

[Warcodered]

On 3/29/2025 at 12:52 PM, Doc Brown said:

The bond is players after three years don't want to bet on themselves the fourth year so they'll take potentially less money to ensure they're set financially for life.  I'd do the same thing too knowing I'm only one injury away from only making around $4m my entire NFL career.

Yep that risk aversion coupled with a great team culture along with being a contender year in and year out has to be a real advantage for Beane negotiating these deals.

[QLBillsFan]

3 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Grant can push the pocket.

Grant does it all.. and it currently is a passing league. 

[Doc Brown]

8 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Yep that risk aversion coupled with a great team culture along with being a contender year in and year out has to be a real advantage for Beane negotiating these deals.

Agents will push for these deals too because of the risk aversion aspect.  I wouldn't want to spend a whole season praying my client won't tear an ACL or something.

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4 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I understand. I just really like Grant.

Kenneth Grant at 30 makes so much sense.

[Buffalo716]

8 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Yipes man calm yourself.  You asked him to respond because his emojis were triggering you and he did and then his response triggered you… it’s not like he was personally attacking you he is just disagreeing just relax.  You’re a good poster having a rough night.

It's just crazy that Joe b is this mythical figure lol like the Bengles were going to win the super bowl if they got in 

 

First of all he's a good quarterback he's not perfect even if he's played some of his better games against the bills 

 

He has nine touchdowns four interceptions in seven playoff games.. 

 

Josh has a better pass rating, a better qbr.. a better touchdown to interception ratio 

 

Yes I did not care if we played the Bengals cuz I do not think they were going to beat us even if Joe burrow has had a couple of good games against us 

 

Patrick mahomes has had good games against us and bad games.. the NFL ebbs and flows Joe B is actually due for a rough game versus the bills

 

And I already talked to the poster.. but The Bengles are not unbeatable and his past success doesn't mean it's always going to be the same every game that's a fact

 

Joe burrow had a great playoff game versus us and a great regular season game last season too... 

 

He played his best playoff game of his career versus the bills. He also has nine touchdowns in seven playoff games... Josh has a better qbr a better passer rating, more touchdowns per game less interceptions per game in the playoffs 

 

Everybody goes back to the statistic norm... So yes I believe Josh Allen and co would score more points than they would score on us

 

Edited Sunday at 07:49 PM by Buffalo716

[3rdand12]

4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

If he performs can you pay him?  What if the league inevitably switches back to a passing league?

He has plenty of potential to improve his pass game. Been noted by  a good few others. Kids has plenty of upside and solves the problem Bills have today.

Our pass rushers will improve significantly with Grant in the middle and Oliver aside him. trust me on this one Coach.

 Normally I say get a one tech anywhere in the draft. Get a Nose in the fifth.

 But Grant and perhaps Harmon are day one game effective

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

DK for 2nd and 4th of course. 
 

that’s not really the point in this topic though. The point is that extending those players at this point isn’t really upgrading the team. It’s keeping the team the team together.

addition by not subtracting ? keeping the team together when they are key pieces , and he is , is just smart all around.

Keeping Levi Wallace was more of what one might describe as , maintaining the status quo

 

 Benford is a fine example of a good investment in a player. He is still trending up. Wouldn't you agree FC ?