Benford Extended 4 Years - 76 million

[Billy Claude]

7 hours ago, eball said:

The Bills are just a well run organization. People around the league are finally starting to see it. 
 

 

People around the league has seen this for a long time.  Three former Bills front office people have been/are NFL GMs -- Brian Gaine, Joe Schoen, and Dan Morgan.   That doesn't happen if other teams don't hold the Bills' front office in high regard.

 

[BobbyC81]

15 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I just realized his initials are CB also. 

 

 

 

 

No one has ever accused me of being fast on the take

No worries.  I just made the same connection.

[Alphadawg7]

Beane is a wizard.

[ProcessTruster]

3 hours ago, Billy Claude said:

 

People around the league has seen this for a long time.  Three former Bills front office people have been/are NFL GMs -- Brian Gaine, Joe Schoen, and Dan Morgan.   That doesn't happen if other teams don't hold the Bills' front office in high regard.

 

Trust the Process (Draft well, develop the player, extend the players who come out of that process).   It has been working for years now. 

Edited Sunday at 10:52 AM by ProcessTruster

[GolfandBills]

If he stays healthy this year that deal will be a steal 

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Beane is a wizard.

lol let’s not get carried away he’s done well in later rounds for sure.  

[Coach Tuesday]

7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Ooo you're just taking one game where Joe b played really good against us lol

 

So I guess he's Jesus Christ thank you

 

I never need to read another post from you again

 

Joe B played unreal for one game versus us and now he's unstoppable till the end of time.. that's all I need to know

 

I will now never read another post from you lol I now know where your head is in regards to McDermott and the bills

Yipes man calm yourself.  You asked him to respond because his emojis were triggering you and he did and then his response triggered you… it’s not like he was personally attacking you he is just disagreeing just relax.  You’re a good poster having a rough night.

Edited Sunday at 11:07 AM by Coach Tuesday

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I have never seen so many fans upset over a dang good contract. In fact, so many seemingly pissed our GM kept core parts of a team that just played in the AFCCG. 

None of those players were FAs haha.

 

Probably 90% of the money spent by Beane this offseason was keeping pieces of that 2024 roster through 2026 and beyond. Not improving the 2025 roster. 
 

I like the Benford deal. I’m ambivalent on the Bernard deal. I don’t like the Rousseau deal. I like the Shakir deal.

 

I think if you told the board heading into FA that our big offseason moves were going to be big money extensions to 4 existing players, a moderate overpay for Josh Palmer, a one year deal for Joey Boss and then rotation guys, it would be received with massive disappointment tbh. 

[machine gun kelly]

19 hours ago, Utah John said:

Now, Cook.

I seriously doubt it.  He doesn’t pass protect, and not on ST.  What makes sense is he plays out his last year, then next year they franchise him for one year.  That gives us two years, and then they draft another next year.

[JerseyBills]

What a 22 Draft!

 

Cook- stud

Bernard- Stud

Shakir - Stud

Benford- Stud

 

Even with a terrible 1st round pick in Elam and the unfortunate situation with Ariza, this was a home run draft and Beane re signed 3 of the studs at very important positions.  

Beane had 8 picks and hit a home run on 4 , for a 50% hit rate

[eball]

5 hours ago, Billy Claude said:

 

People around the league has seen this for a long time.  Three former Bills front office people have been/are NFL GMs -- Brian Gaine, Joe Schoen, and Dan Morgan.   That doesn't happen if other teams don't hold the Bills' front office in high regard.

 

Yeah, I phrased that poorly. What I meant to say is people like the national media. Now we are being praised for our retention of players, etc.

 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

None of those players were FAs haha.

 

Probably 90% of the money spent by Beane this offseason was keeping pieces of that 2024 roster through 2026 and beyond. Not improving the 2025 roster. 
 

I like the Benford deal. I’m ambivalent on the Bernard deal. I don’t like the Rousseau deal. I like the Shakir deal.

 

I think if you told the board heading into FA that our big offseason moves were going to be big money extensions to 4 existing players, a moderate overpay for Josh Palmer, a one year deal for Joey Boss and then rotation guys, it would be received with massive disappointment tbh. 

 

Switch me round on Rousseau - where I am ambivalent and Bernard - don't like, it's an overpay. But otherwise I broadly agree. 

 

I actually don't think the bigger problem is the retentions. I think the bigger problem is we had a moderate amount of freedom for FAs.... and yet again he threw 3 contracts at DL. And did so without getting a natural 1T and ended up with two guys who can't play until week 7. His offensive upgrade is the bare minimum level of what we needed at outside receiver. It's fine but not difference making. Whenever given the option Beane throws FA dollars at a plethora of mid range defensive linemen. That strategy hasn't worked in 7 years. Maybe year 8 is the boon. 

[FireChans]

12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Switch me round on Rousseau - where I am ambivalent and Bernard - don't like, it's an overpay. But otherwise I broadly agree. 

 

I actually don't think the bigger problem is the retentions. I think the bigger problem is we had a moderate amount of freedom for FAs.... and yet again he threw 3 contracts at DL. And did so without getting a natural 1T and ended up with two guys who can't play until week 7. His offensive upgrade is the bare minimum level of what we needed at outside receiver. It's fine but not difference making. Whenever given the option Beane throws FA dollars at a plethora of mid range defensive linemen. That strategy hasn't worked in 7 years. Maybe year 8 is the boon. 

The problem is certainly not with the retentions on their face.

 

I would say that easily 90% of this board agrees that Benford’s extension was a good deal for Buffalo.

Their issue is that it’s being spun as we could only sign the PED crew and Josh Palmer because we HAD to pay Benford, Bernard etc etc. 

Which is not only not true, it makes those extensions seem worse if that was the cost associated with them.

[todd]

Really good offseason so far. Disappointing about the ped suspensions. Really wish Beane found a way to get a 1 tech before the draft. That’s a huge gap in the line and will impact the play of the rest of the line and the lbs. to me that’s a place where you can pay a premium knowing you can impact the rest of the d with one position.

[colin]

8 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

They will do whatever they want offensively this year when they play us.

 

They aren't the same team as the ones who destroyed us, but anybody that can match you point for point is dangerous. We won't slow Burrow down even a little. McD has no clue how to defend a guy like him. 

 

the advanced stats and the tape shows that over the last say 2 years (the hamlin season was honestly a bit different, von went down, trey white came back but should not have had an nfl jersey on, and dorsey was playing dr demento on O) that our actual problem (which was news to me tbh) on D was how we defended an accurate passer.  we continued to be tops of the tops at stopping deep passes, and kinda let teams run on light boxes (last season the only game we got really trucked on was the 2nd game vs miami where we sold out vs the pass and dared them to run on us.  the baltimore game we got BTFO on big plays and horrible offensive production as much as anything).  the rams game, the second half of the detroit game, and the kc playoff game really nailed this.  we used so much smoke and mirrors and extreme offensive efficiency to pressure teams into turnovers (i now admit they are not entirely random, there is a method to that madness) to mask how our D just did zilch to make the day long for an accurate passing team.  

 

outside of staffy, joe cool is the most accurate passer in the nfl imo, and his garbage line isn't enough for us because our scheme and lack of talent has lead to either big time disruption up front or easy mode stuff on the back end, rather than a well coordinated d where the rush impacts the throw in synergy with the coverage (ironically, that is exactly what mcd's d in carolina did at an elite level).

 

im just hoping the changes in d coaching and the addition of potential xfactor rushers (hoyt and bosa) mixes in w who we have enough to change that this season, but trotting out raw coordinators doesn't give me that much confidence that we will have a big change -- but a change must happen one way or another.

[Dr. Who]

5 minutes ago, todd said:

Really good offseason so far. Disappointing about the ped suspensions. Really wish Beane found a way to get a 1 tech before the draft. That’s a huge gap in the line and will impact the play of the rest of the line and the lbs. to me that’s a place where you can pay a premium knowing you can impact the rest of the d with one position.

I don't think that's a position you pay big FA dollars to, and it's a deep position in the draft. However, I would entertain taking one at #30, which would disappoint those who believe it is not a premium position worthy of a first rounder.

 

I am not opposed to retaining our good players, though I think Bernard was an overpay, and I'm ambivalent about Groot. Where I dissent from Beane's choices is that I personally think Metcalf is a perfect plus player for the team. I would have paid the draft price to acquire him, and I also believe that he could have been fit reasonably in the cap. That is the kind of adjustment Philly makes on the regular.

 

I was onboard with a bigger draft and cap expenditure for Garrett, but he wasn't really available.

 

And then, the real gap in the FA spending is CB. If that means Beane feels compelled to fill that need in the first (it might be value there, it might not), that is where I foresee further disagreement. If Grant is there at #30, I prefer him to some of the supposed upper tier CBs, for instance.

[bills6969]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

What a 22 Draft!

 

Cook- stud

Bernard- Stud

Shakir - Stud

Benford- Stud

 

Even with a terrible 1st round pick in Elam and the unfortunate situation with Ariza, this was a home run draft and Beane re signed 3 of the studs at very important positions.  

Beane had 8 picks and hit a home run on 4 , for a 50% hit rate

Imagine if we had gotten Mcduffie (who Beane wanted) in the first. Would’ve been the best draft class of all time

[Coach Tuesday]

16 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I don't think that's a position you pay big FA dollars to, and it's a deep position in the draft. However, I would entertain taking one at #30, which would disappoint those who believe it is not a premium position worthy of a first rounder.

 

I am not opposed to retaining our good players, though I think Bernard was an overpay, and I'm ambivalent about Groot. Where I dissent from Beane's choices is that I personally think Metcalf is a perfect plus player for the team. I would have paid the draft price to acquire him, and I also believe that he could have been fit reasonably in the cap. That is the kind of adjustment Philly makes on the regular.

 

I was onboard with a bigger draft and cap expenditure for Garrett, but he wasn't really available.

 

And then, the real gap in the FA spending is CB. If that means Beane feels compelled to fill that need in the first (it might be value there, it might not), that is where I foresee further disagreement. If Grant is there at #30, I prefer him to some of the supposed upper tier CBs, for instance.

I mostly agree but not about a 1T at 30.  To me that would be the exact opposite of aiming high and taking the risk of failure.  You are 100% right that Roseman is willing to swing for the fences.  Beane - despite his hilariously wrong “Big Baller” nickname - nearly always plays it safe and hits it down the fairway and in that sense he and McD are in lockstep.  They are a risk-mitigating organization even though they otherwise operate well.  “We’ll blitz but only if we play our DBs way back just in case…”. “Make sure we have a vet in every position room because we need to keep the kids on mission in case the coaching doesn’t take.”  “We’ll move around the draft board but only if we don’t lose too many mid-round picks.”  “We’ll pay for veteran receivers but only after we buy three more vet linemen because Sean’s defense needs new old blood every year.”

 

A one tech at 30 would be a pure safe need pick that is super unlikely to get a second contract and if they did it would likely be a bad use of cap dollars. 

[colin]

18 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I mostly agree but not about a 1T at 30.  To me that would be the exact opposite of aiming high and taking the risk of failure.  You are 100% right that Roseman is willing to swing for the fences.  Beane - despite his hilariously wrong “Big Baller” nickname - nearly always plays it safe and hits it down the fairway and in that sense he and McD are in lockstep.  They are a risk-mitigating organization even though they otherwise operate well.  “We’ll blitz but only if we play our DBs way back just in case…”. “Make sure we have a vet in every position room because we need to keep the kids on mission in case the coaching doesn’t take.”  “We’ll move around the draft board but only if we don’t lose too many mid-round picks.”  “We’ll pay for veteran receivers but only after we buy three more vet linemen because Sean’s defense needs new old blood every year.”

 

A one tech at 30 would be a pure safe need pick that is super unlikely to get a second contract and if they did it would likely be a bad use of cap dollars. 

 

a 1 tech at 30 is similar to the bishop pick in the 2nd (i was a big fan of his coming out of college, so it shows my drafting chops!).  If it's a year one starter who is or will be better than the rest of the roster at his position, then it's a really good pick.  if it's a project, or a non starter (like carter has been, total washout so far), or a guy who got hurt and stymied his growth year one (like bishop or coleman) then you missed a chance at a real plus player at a more important positions.

 

i think our first four selections will be DT, CB, WR, with a slim shot at edge rusher.  i could see 2 DTs and 2 CBs, but no less than one of each.  if a guy is pat williams, then im happy to spend the 30 or trade up in the 1st for him, but those don't come along too often.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

22 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Per Schefter 

 

This is amazing. Beane made up for the crappy Elam pick in the 2022 draft by snagging Benford late in the 6th round. He has more than held his own against top WRs. I can’t wait to see him punish Diggs this year. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

What a 22 Draft!

 

Cook- stud

Bernard- Stud

Shakir - Stud

Benford- Stud

 

Even with a terrible 1st round pick in Elam and the unfortunate situation with Ariza, this was a home run draft and Beane re signed 3 of the studs at very important positions.  

Beane had 8 picks and hit a home run on 4 , for a 50% hit rate

I get it and mostly agree, but YOU CAN NOT blow 1st round picks. Esp. when you use assets to trade up for that 1st round.  I feel he needs to trust his scouts more when it comes to higher picks.