Benford Extended 4 Years - 76 million

[damj]

Big baller Beane strikes again 

 

[3rdand12]

3 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Dion Dawkins would disagree with that.

Spencer Brown and Dion can work on that subject. Be a fun TedTalk 😋

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said:

Concussion history is a scary factor, but not a lot of choice in locking up one of the better players you have.

 

It's not just concussions, he's had a lot of different injuries over the years. He missed half the season in 2022 with a broken hand and then an oblique injury. 2023 he missed a few games with a hammy, and the playoff game vs Chiefs with a knee. 2024 he missed a game with a wrist injury and then the back to back concussions in the playoffs. 

 

I don't think I would've extended a guy that hasn't played a full season and has missed game(s) in every postseason.

 

Fingers crossed he can stay healthy since he's such a great player when he's on the field. 

[Doc Brown]

16 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

It's not just concussions, he's had a lot of different injuries over the years. He missed half the season in 2022 with a broken hand and then an oblique injury. 2023 he missed a few games with a hammy, and the playoff game vs Chiefs with a knee. 2024 he missed a game with a wrist injury and then the back to back concussions in the playoffs. 

 

I don't think I would've extended a guy that hasn't played a full season and has missed game(s) in every postseason.

 

Fingers crossed he can stay healthy since he's such a great player when he's on the field. 

No injury occurred twice though and all of them aren't long term concerns (besides the two concussions).  I'm not sure if he's injury prone or just unlucky.

[Augie]

19 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

It's not just concussions, he's had a lot of different injuries over the years. He missed half the season in 2022 with a broken hand and then an oblique injury. 2023 he missed a few games with a hammy, and the playoff game vs Chiefs with a knee. 2024 he missed a game with a wrist injury and then the back to back concussions in the playoffs. 

 

I don't think I would've extended a guy that hasn't played a full season and has missed game(s) in every postseason.

 

Fingers crossed he can stay healthy since he's such a great player when he's on the field. 

 

So…..you just let him walk? It’s a gamble, but the Jerry Jones Way would be to wait until his cost dramatically increases. You trust your medical people, and pray for the best IMO. 

 

I’m more concerned about concussions than a pulled hammy or a broken hand. If he went full-Tua it could be a HUGE albatross. CB is a position that is supposed to create contact rather than do everything possible to avoid it, so….

 

I think we got a deal, but I haven’t seen the details and where some out’s might be built in. 

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said:

Concussion history is a scary factor, but not a lot of choice in locking up one of the better players you have.

To sign him to that 4 year contract regardless of how we value it , Bills might have moved past the injury with confidence 

[MJS]

4 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

Cook unlike Benford has taken negotiations publicly. The last guy who carried on like that got traded for a 2nd rounder this year. I’m not saying it will happen but Cook to LV or Dallas for a 2nd would not shock me 🤷🏻‍♂️.. strong RB draft. Gives Bills 3 2nd rounders one of which they use on a home run threat RB ? Call me crazy but? 

And Ray Davis is promising. He had some good runs last year.

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

They aren't that important unless they're elite bellcow backs (Barkley, Henry, McCaffrey).  Even then you need a strong foundation to maximize their value.  For example, Barkley averaged 3.9 ypc behind a bad o-line, poor WR weapons, and poor QB play in 2023.  You need to have all those things in place for a RB of his caliber to shine like he did with the Eagles last year.  You saw the same thing in Baltimore with Henry.  

Those two are elite by definition

 Our young Mr Cook is not that

yet

See you next year Mr Cook and we will talk more. Prove it 2025. Like to think he will

 

[BuffBillsForLife]

Great deal for the Bills as long as the double concussion didn't fry his brain.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

So…..you just let him walk? It’s a gamble, but the Jerry Jones Way would be to wait until his cost dramatically increases. You trust your medical people, and pray for the best IMO. 

 

I’m more concerned about concussions than a pulled hammy or a broken hand. If he went full-Tua it could be a HUGE albatross. CB is a position that is supposed to create contact rather than do everything possible to avoid it, so….

 

I think we got a deal, but I haven’t seen the details and where some out’s might be built in. 

 

I'd let the final year of his contract play out and see how it goes. 'Worst' case from a cap perspective is he plays great and we have to pay him more. If he continues to have injury concerns (depending on severity) we could franchise tag him or let him walk for a comp pick. 

 

 

[3rdand12]

42 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

The Bills aren't in the market for a true shutdown corner.  That is not the style that the Bills play.  And since they don't particularly want a true shutdown corner, they won't pay the corner they do want at shutdown-corner prices.  It's a very convenient for the Bills that the guys they want on the field are not, at least in the defensive backfield, the guys who establish the market. 

 

I think it's the same thing with Rousseau. The big-name flashy, 15-sack per season edge is usually not the guy the Bills want.  They want a true all-round DE like Rousseau, who can rush the passer and can stop the run. So they get to sign Rousseau for less than big-name, market-setting guys.  

 

Where I have my doubts about this system is that I think sooner or later the Bills are going to a go-to play maker at some position in addition to Allen.  That's not Benford and it's not Rousseau.  With luck, it'll be Bosa for a year or two.  

You might be thinking financially or how they draft. If finances you set up to draft for the stars perhaps and get your Elite player that forces the Coaches to revisit the Defensives schemes to maximize your investment

 Expect they do that for Bosa

No reason not to acquire an elite shut down corner and make adjustments because of

But yea i get your point about Bills philosophy 66

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

I'd let the final year of his contract play out and see how it goes. 'Worst' case from a cap perspective is he plays great and we have to pay him more. If he continues to have injury concerns (depending on severity) we could franchise tag him or let him walk for a comp pick. 

 

 

 

OK, Jerruh.     😊

 

It’s a gamble, and I was half thinking they would wait until early next season, but the team has more leverage now. I’m mostly worried about concussions, so how they structured things is important. 

[Beast]

Good news and a fair deal for both sides….maybe more fair to the Bills than Benford.

[bmur66]

Good deal 👍

[Shaw66]

2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

You might be thinking financially or how they draft. If finances you set up to draft for the stars perhaps and get your Elite player that forces the Coaches to revisit the Defensives schemes to maximize your investment

 Expect they do that for Bosa

No reason not to acquire an elite shut down corner and make adjustments because of

But yea i get your point about Bills philosophy 66

But there is a reason not to acquire an elite shutdown corner. A couple of them.  Principally, McDermott's defense is designed to ask the corner to be an all-around.  If he could, McDermott would have three Taron Johnsons.  They won't change the defense to play a corner on an island because they have a player who's good at it.  The second reason is that they want to keep the guys they draft, and if they draft a star corner, he'll leave after his first contract, because he's worth more to a team that does want to do what you say.  Different coaches, but Gilmore left because the Bills didn't want true shutdown talent and Belichick did.  

 

They do it for Bosa because McDermott is as adamant about rushing four as he is about his corners being powerful run-support players.  So, when the Bills go to the market for an edge, the guy has to be able to get to the quarterback.  That's what every team wants, so the Bills are forced to pay the price for premier talent. At corner, on the other hand, the McDermott scheme makes it possible to fill the defensive backfield without paying premium prices, because the Bills don't build around a premier cover corner. 

[Aussie Joe]

Cheaper deal than I was expecting ….

 

There must be some pressure on a young guy who was picked late Day 3 , and earned practically nothing over three years , to take the $40-50m guaranteed …

 

Find a guy in the draft now for the other side …

 

 

[3rdand12]

4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

But there is a reason not to acquire an elite shutdown corner. A couple of them.  Principally, McDermott's defense is designed to ask the corner to be an all-around.  If he could, McDermott would have three Taron Johnsons.  They won't change the defense to play a corner on an island because they have a player who's good at it.  The second reason is that they want to keep the guys they draft, and if they draft a star corner, he'll leave after his first contract, because he's worth more to a team that does want to do what you say.  Different coaches, but Gilmore left because the Bills didn't want true shutdown talent and Belichick did.  

 

They do it for Bosa because McDermott is as adamant about rushing four as he is about his corners being powerful run-support players.  So, when the Bills go to the market for an edge, the guy has to be able to get to the quarterback.  That's what every team wants, so the Bills are forced to pay the price for premier talent. At corner, on the other hand, the McDermott scheme makes it possible to fill the defensive backfield without paying premium prices, because the Bills don't build around a premier cover corner. 

Shaw , 

Thank you. I see your points clearly about McDermott's mantra and can't argue that. Perhaps I was being more philosophical .

 But dang good note here !
 Made me think, and then once enlightened , agree 👍

[GunnerBill]

44 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

No injury occurred twice though and all of them aren't long term concerns (besides the two concussions).  I'm not sure if he's injury prone or just unlucky.

 

Agree. Other than the concussions they are not like long term reoccuring type injuries. If someone is constantly doing groins and hammys etc that is a bigger concern. His are just random injuries where the timing has sucked.

[JerseyBills]

I'm still elated we got 4 more years at under 20 mil

 

I feel like we definitely beat KC if he doesn't get concussed

 

24 years old

 

Benford was top 5 in nearly every important CB metric last year

19 aav is a STEAL . 

 

You look at Stingley - 3 years, 90 mil , 30 aav and it just makes it that much sweeter

 

Phenomenal contract 

Don't be surprised to see multiple pro bowls and All pros heading his way 

Edited Saturday at 09:55 PM by JerseyBills

[SoonerBillsFan]

28 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

But there is a reason not to acquire an elite shutdown corner. A couple of them.  Principally, McDermott's defense is designed to ask the corner to be an all-around.  If he could, McDermott would have three Taron Johnsons.  They won't change the defense to play a corner on an island because they have a player who's good at it.  The second reason is that they want to keep the guys they draft, and if they draft a star corner, he'll leave after his first contract, because he's worth more to a team that does want to do what you say.  Different coaches, but Gilmore left because the Bills didn't want true shutdown talent and Belichick did.  

 

They do it for Bosa because McDermott is as adamant about rushing four as he is about his corners being powerful run-support players.  So, when the Bills go to the market for an edge, the guy has to be able to get to the quarterback.  That's what every team wants, so the Bills are forced to pay the price for premier talent. At corner, on the other hand, the McDermott scheme makes it possible to fill the defensive backfield without paying premium prices, because the Bills don't build around a premier cover corner. 

Which is why I see DT,DE, and possibly WR before CB in the draft.