Cooper and Douglas

[HappyDays]

I was told we didn't even make an offer to Douglas and that there is zero interest in a reunion. What I haven't heard but what I suspect is that Douglas has way over-valued himself and he needs to be more realistic about his tape last year if he wants to sign anywhere.

 

Cooper I haven't heard anything. I know Jeremy Fowler reported a while back that neither side was opposed to a reunion if it made sense. At this point I think he'll wait until after the draft and sign with a team desperate for a WR. Maybe that will be us depending on how the board falls.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Honesty I would rather pick up an UDFA with some kind of physical traits than being Douglas back. He was a liability and then some. I would play Hardy over him. 

 

Cooper, I like him a lot as a player in the past. But I'm ready for getting younger and faster. I see us drafting a WR and giving Shavers a legit chance to make the 53.

[Breakout Squad]

I’d like to get Cooper back if he’s cheap. I like having a veteran presence and he can still make great catches. I know he’s not gonna come back for vet minimum. 

[boyst]

Just now, Breakout Squad said:

I’d like to get Cooper back if he’s cheap. I like having a veteran presence and he can still make great catches. I know he’s not gonna come back for vet minimum. 

Why wouldn't he come back for a cheap contract? 1 yr $8mm - $5mm guaranteed is my offer now. Or 2 yrs $14mm. - $7mm guaranteed 

[Breakout Squad]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

Why wouldn't he come back for a cheap contract? 1 yr $8mm - $5mm guaranteed is my offer now. Or 2 yrs $14mm. - $7mm guaranteed 

I would imagine Beane already made an offer. 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said:

I would imagine Beane already made an offer. 

He did per my understanding. The Bills offered contracts to most every veteran free agent for their initial offer. That's why so many waited to see the market then bounced back.

 

I was told Douglas got an offer for sure. Id imagine all of them did if I was told they did.

[BillsFanForever19]

42 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I was told we didn't even make an offer to Douglas and that there is zero interest in a reunion. What I haven't heard but what I suspect is that Douglas has way over-valued himself and he needs to be more realistic about his tape last year if he wants to sign anywhere.

 

Cooper I haven't heard anything. I know Jeremy Fowler reported a while back that neither side was opposed to a reunion if it made sense. At this point I think he'll wait until after the draft and sign with a team desperate for a WR. Maybe that will be us depending on how the board falls.

 

Yeah, I agree. I believe neither the Bills nor these players were looking for a reunion initially. But if there isn't much of a market interest for them as players and/or their price (and i'd assume that's the case right now) and if the board doesn't fall right at WR or CB - I could see it being revisited by both sides.

 

That said, i'm more open to Cooper than I am Douglas. I think it's fair to assume that his wrist injury (that at least one doctor said needed surgery) compounded with trying to fit him in halfway through the year led to them using him sparingly. Perhaps with a full offseason and healthy, he could provide a little more. Douglas, however, was truly awful last season. At 31 years old (at the start of the season) - it's quite possible to me he hit the wall. If we did bring him back, i'd make him earn his spot back against Jackson and whomever we Drafted on Day 3 and not guarantee anything. 

[artmalibu]

Cooper would have to be real cheep.  To fill the last WR spot I would rather see a later draft pick, past PS player, or an undrafted free agent in hopes of catching lightning in a bottle.  

 

The resources are really needed on the defense.  It was tough to watch the Bills score 40 points in a game to loose... 

[BuffaloBillyG]

27 minutes ago, boyst said:

He did per my understanding. The Bills offered contracts to most every veteran free agent for their initial offer. That's why so many waited to see the market then bounced back.

 

I was told Douglas got an offer for sure. Id imagine all of them did if I was told they did.

 

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

I was told we didn't even make an offer to Douglas and that there is zero interest in a reunion. What I haven't heard but what I suspect is that Douglas has way over-valued himself and he needs to be more realistic about his tape last year if he wants to sign anywhere.

 

Cooper I haven't heard anything. I know Jeremy Fowler reported a while back that neither side was opposed to a reunion if it made sense. At this point I think he'll wait until after the draft and sign with a team desperate for a WR. Maybe that will be us depending on how the board falls.

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[ControllerOfPlanetX]

3 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

 

[NoName]

I'd bring them both back.  Cooper on a deal similar to what Hollins got from the Pats.  Douglass, the max I would offer would be 2 yrs 10 mil but I think 2 yrs 6 mil would be fairer for both sides. 

[ganesh]

I don’t think there is space for cooper on this roster 

 

the Bills have to get Samuel,  Palmer and  Coleman to be successful playing outside and down the field.  They will add another draft pick to that mix. 
 

They also need Kincaid to forget last years second half of the season and be back at the level of his rookie season. 

 

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, artmalibu said:

Cooper would have to be real cheep.  To fill the last WR spot I would rather see a later draft pick, past PS player, or an undrafted free agent in hopes of catching lightning in a bottle.  

 

The resources are really needed on the defense.  It was tough to watch the Bills score 40 points in a game to loose... 

 

id rather a day 2 pick… 

 

Coleman is a complete question mark

 

palmer is a 2 year deal and major question mark 

 

is be shocked if Samuel is here in 2026

 

we don’t need lightning in a bottle or a 1 year rental - we need a solid prospect that inn12 months will be expected to be a near full time starter on a cost controlled deal for several years. A day 2 guy is great short term depth and long term real potential 

[The Cincinnati Kid]

Bills are going with Palmer, Coleman, Shakir, Samuel and one of Virgil, Shenault, Shavers or a mid to late round pick that makes the team. WR 5 has to be a ST, run blocker, and cheap.

 

Douglas will latch on somewhere after someone goes down with an unfortunate offseason or Training Camp injury. 
 

Cooper might be the same.

Edited Thursday at 01:21 AM by The Cincinnati Kid

[NeverOutNick]

I want both Cooper and Douglas back. I think they both will be priced right and are still very good when healthy imo. Take back the $2mil you gave Hamlin and add it to their contracts 

[SoonerBillsFan]

I don't bring either back. Need to go younger and hopefully better. 

[oldmanfan]

I read somewhere Cooper may retire.  Douglas is likely in no hurry; he can watch and see what teams run into injuries in preseason and sign a deal then.

[Turbo44]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Honesty I would rather pick up an UDFA with some kind of physical traits than being Douglas back. He was a liability and then some. I would play Hardy over him. 

 

Cooper, I like him a lot as a player in the past. But I'm ready for getting younger and faster. I see us drafting a WR and giving Shavers a legit chance to make the 53.

Play hardy over douglass? Interesting as we have never actually seen hardy play a meaningful game. I would take Douglass back in a second 

[T.E.]

Wouldn't surprise me if Cooper retired. Didn't seem enthusiastic abut playing last year at all.

[BuffaloBillyG]

21 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Play hardy over douglass? Interesting as we have never actually seen hardy play a meaningful game. I would take Douglass back in a second 

I liked what I saw out of him in the preseason at CB enough to think he may be a player that has some area to grow and be a good CB in this defense.

 

Douglas was great the season we traded for him. He was absolutely dreadful at times last year.