Stef Diggs signs with the Pats!

[JohnNord]

4 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

As I already stated, this may not work out. Secondly anyone paying attention already knows even before the injury he wasn't what he was in Buffalo and Minnesota. I know the affects an ACL injury can have on an athlete, especially one now being 31. Again he was still on pace in Houston for 1000 yards before the injury...I'm pretty sure after "x" amount of years at an elite level you will decline unless your Brady. 

 

3rd yes every year teams "kick" the tires or pass on a players,  and? Russell Wilson for some reason is still getting jobs.

 

Plus for a team like tge Pats who has ish for a receiver room this is a bit of an upgrade. Injury or not 

 

 

 

 

On pace for 1,000 yards… with a HIGH volume of catches that saw him fail to eclipse 100 yards.  You can argue he was on pace to have less than 10 yards per reception.  

 

The only reason I responded to you was because you downplayed the ACL injury because “he worked out” for the team.  Now you’re backtracking?  

50 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Good riddance to Diggs, and now it makes beating the Patriots even sweeter instead of a 'meh' type of game, but he WAS a leader the first two-three years with the Bills. Everywhere he goes he eventually sours and pouts, but not at first. 

Some the Bills fans here that are talking about a what a great signing this is, are the same ones who thought Shane Merriman was going to regain his All Pro form in 2011

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

I keep seeing this...

 

Money talks.

 

Metcalf said the samething.. we shouldn't be surprised by this as fans...they have a small window to be rich, so why wouldn't they go where the money Is at. We would too. 

 

 

Of course it's a risk, just as it would be for any team signing him..or when you guys had Von Miller, or picking up Aaron Rodgers. The pats have the money to burn, he doesn't work out then it gives them another year to get a wr and show other free agency's they can come to NE.  I mean these type of player accusations happen all the time 

Both those guys were already generationally rich, 

 

by the way I was practicing my sarcasm, lol, 

[Ghost_002!]

1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I don't

 

Bills 

Chiefs

Texans

Ravens

 

Division winners^

 

Playoff contenders

Chargers

Denver

Miami

Bengals

Steelers

 

I don't think the Pats* are good enough to get past those teams. I expect teams like the Raiders and Jets to be better too. Does TN get Ward and finally win some games? If Trevor Lawrence has a similar resurgence that baker Mayfield did with Liam Cohn they could be in the mix too

 

I said flirt w a playoff birth.

 

And they beat the Bengals last year with that horrible roster they had, the defense should be better. Better coaching staff and a weaker schedule...plus there will be definitely some "any given sunday" win(s) somewhere on their schedule..

 

So it's possible. 

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

But 3-years at 69M. That's a lot of money for an aging diva WR coming off a serious injury whose best days are behind him.

 

 

Gotta look at the guarantee money. That's all that matters. He won't be seeing that whole contract.

 

 

[Ghost_002!]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Diggs and Metcalf are not at all the same thing.  Diggs already had the money in Buffalo, he was on a big extension, he was never at any point underpaid here.  Bills gave him 2 big deals.  He had the usage here, 160 targets, way more than DK.  

 

Diggs got disgruntled because he wanted to win a SB...not because he wanted more money.  Everything he did here that caused the parting of him and the Bills was because he allegedly wanted to win so bad and had lost faith the Bills would get there before his career ended, especially with us heading in for a mini retool the offseason we traded him due to age and cap decisions.  

 

Yet, it was true then, and its still true now...if Diggs really wanted to be in a place that gave him a legit chance to win a SB year after year, he had it all here in Buffalo...money, targets, and legit contention with unquestionably one of the top 2 QB's in the league.  

 

So to see him NOW sign for money is fine...but make no mistake about it...he forced his way out of Buffalo over wanting a SB just to now sign on in NE for money over winning.  I guarantee had his agent called SF, KC, Balt, Was, Phi, or a number of other more realistic contenders and offered to come cheap for a chance at a ring, at least one of those teams would have said yes.  But instead, he decided he needed to get another big deal either for his ego or for his bank account...or probably both.  

 

Diggs learned a lesson...the grass isn't always greener.  And the irony is he would have made more money staying in Buffalo...and still be competing for SB's, hell if he had bought into to being here and Brady's system this season, we might have gotten there this year too.  

 

He is an athlete. No money is never enough. Regardless. He left the bills cause that's what he does..wears out his welcome aka "a diva" wide receiver 

 

If you honestly sit there and think most of these athletes won't take money over "I want to play for a SB contender" I got some land I would like to sell you.

 

These athletes and teams weight out all their options and go with the best one all the time.

 

If he truly cared about winning a SB he would of cont. To "play nice" in Buffalo, clearly that wasn't the case. 

8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Both those guys were already generationally rich, 

 

by the way I was practicing my sarcasm, lol, 

 

No athlete is ever gonna refuse more $. And I know about the sarcasm...lol I just seen the statement made here a few times. Ha ha

[RichRiderBills]

2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

I don't know what the workout was...and either do you. I would expect an legit NFL franchise was not just do a "half ass" physical and workout and then say "OK, let's pay him"

 

That's dumb and how you lose a job. They did let him leave NE so he didn't sign right away and today for these athletes they can come back pretty quick from an ACL. See Aaron Rodgers and Tua

 

Do you realize he was in Houston last year and they loved him there?

 

He is a drama queen that's been documented. But hence the length of his contract and he is not there to "put them over the SB" hump.  

 

Yeah, I agree I don't know what the Pats did. I do know the injury was 4 months ago and him being in any condition to give a viable physical is unlikely. 

 

All sorts of mistakes happen in FA and player signings. It wouldn't be out of the realm that an already declining player in fact declines more from one of the more serious NFL injuries that typical has a recovery time of 10-12 months. ( Google tells me 6-12, but I think this is so rare) .

 

I know that Diggs was a good player, who thrived off hard cuts in routes to gain separation. Not crazy to suspect age and injury may hamper him.

 

We all just saw how Von looked in year 1 back from the ACL and that was lousy. Took Von 18-20 months to get better. 

[Ghost_002!]

I can say...it's gonna finally be fun again to watch the Bills vs Pats win or lose

 

Allen v Maye

Diggs v your defense(hopefully)

 

Your offense v Pats Defense...

 

Get to watch it twice and I don't have to go back to working on that "honey to do list" again. 

 

[bigK14094]

Diggs helped Allen grow by being that reliable #1.  The Bills don't have that right now, but, Allen has grown in the 5 years now since Diggs arrived in Buffalo.  Congrats to Diggs for getting the big bucks.  Time will tell if that pays off for the Pats.

[BullBuchanan]

Good for him. Perfect fit for them honestly. Adding Diggs will provide Maye with the ability to take the next step (if he has it in him). They probably won't be playoff contenders any time soon, so the pressure on Diggs should be low. Wouldn't be shocked to see him around 1k 6/7 TD though.

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

He is an athlete. No money is never enough. Regardless. He left the bills cause that's what he does..wears out his welcome aka "a diva" wide receiver 

 

If you honestly sit there and think most of these athletes won't take money over "I want to play for a SB contender" I got some land I would like to sell you.

 

These athletes and teams weight out all their options and go with the best one all the time.

 

If he truly cared about winning a SB he would of cont. To "play nice" in Buffalo, clearly that wasn't the case. 

 

First off...meet Shakir, Allen, Bernard, and Rousseau...all 4 of them just this past month all took LESS money to stay with Buffalo than their market value.  So yeah, thats not accurate at all, even if its more common guys go for the most money.  To say no athlete takes less money is wrong...even GOATS like Jordan and Brady have taken less money than they were worth for the good of the teams ability to win.  

 

But nothing you said here has anything to do with I said to you.  I said DK and Diggs are not at all the same comparison.  Diggs ALREADY had the money in Buffalo.  In fact, he wound up with less money leaving Buffalo.  His leaving Buffalo had 0% to do with "money" yet you are making it about money still with Diggs in terms of why he left here.  The point is, Diggs was disgruntled in Buffalo NOT over money, but over his chances of winning a SB.  

 

So the irony now is...Diggs had the last 2 years of his HIGHER paid contract voided to go to Houston, making him a one and done and a FA at 31 years old regardless of the injury.  He wanted that deal because he felt Houston was a team on the rise and had a better chance to win a SB there before his career ended...even though it was still a 1 year deal only and there was a chance he wouldn't be brought back.  But, still he believed he had a better chance there in 2024 than he was going to have in Buffalo in 2024.

 

Now...as a FA...he has signed on with a team that doesn't have a legit shot at winning even the division, let alone the SB, the next couple of years.  A team that isn't even an expected playoff team, let alone a contender.  And he did it for the money, which is ironic because he had a bigger contract in Buffalo had he just stayed here and still would be contending.  

 

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

No athlete is ever gonna refuse more $. And I know about the sarcasm...lol I just seen the statement made here a few times. Ha ha

 

Yet Allen, Shakir, Rousseau and Bernard all just did.  

Edited Wednesday at 06:03 PM by Alphadawg7

[Ghost_002!]

1 hour ago, JohnNord said:

On pace for 1,000 yards… with a HIGH volume of catches that saw him fail to eclipse 100 yards.  You can argue he was on pace to have less than 10 yards per reception.  

 

The only reason I responded to you was because you downplayed the ACL injury because “he worked out” for the team.  Now you’re backtracking?  

 

 

 

How am I down playing his injury?? I said this could work it or it couldn't? 

 

I gave you two different athletes who have come back from that injury. To sit there and say "absolutely" Diggs is done or to act like he is , would be an incorrect statement given again what other athletes have done coming back. It's possible he can be fine and give the pats what they want from him.

 

It's the other side of the coin. Which there aways one..on top of the fact as I said, it's a risk and also couldn't work?

 

Who cares how exactly he was productive, he was productive

 

If you are a NFL franchise you want production, right? So he gave it to you, yes at 31 it is/was going to be diff from how he played in Buffalo and in Minnesota again something i said and acknowledged.

 

In the pats case, what they need him to do is far diff then what a team like the Bills would be looking for at this stage 

[FireChans]

24 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Yet Allen, Shakir, Rousseau and Bernard all just did

None of them were pending FAs. They all took long term money now over waiting to hit the market.

Edited Wednesday at 06:27 PM by FireChans

[Ghost_002!]

32 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

First off...meet Shakir, Allen, Bernard, and Rousseau...all 4 of them just this past month all took LESS money to stay with Buffalo than their market value.  So yeah, thats not accurate at all, even if its more common guys go for the most money.  To say no athlete takes less money is wrong...even GOATS like Jordan and Brady have taken less money than they were worth for the good of the teams ability to win.  

 

But nothing you said here has anything to do with I said to you.  I said DK and Diggs are not at all the same comparison.  Diggs ALREADY had the money in Buffalo.  In fact, he wound up with less money leaving Buffalo.  His leaving Buffalo had 0% to do with "money" yet you are making it about money still with Diggs in terms of why he left here.  The point is, Diggs was disgruntled in Buffalo NOT over money, but over his chances of winning a SB.  

 

So the irony now is...Diggs had the last 2 years of his HIGHER paid contract voided to go to Houston, making him a one and done and a FA at 31 years old regardless of the injury.  He wanted that deal because he felt Houston was a team on the rise and had a better chance to win a SB there before his career ended...even though it was still a 1 year deal only and there was a chance he wouldn't be brought back.  But, still he believed he had a better chance there in 2024 than he was going to have in Buffalo in 2024.

 

Now...as a FA...he has signed on with a team that doesn't have a legit shot at winning even the division, let alone the SB, the next couple of years.  A team that isn't even an expected playoff team, let alone a contender.  And he did it for the money, which is ironic because he had a bigger contract in Buffalo had he just stayed here and still would be contending.  

 

 

Yet Allen, Shakir, Rousseau and Bernard all just did.  

 

 

Come on man..how long you watch sports...

 

Sure there are athletes that aren't all about the money but don't act like there aren't plenty that don't try to get as much as possible. 

 

Or there aren't any who say one thing to the media and do something else.

 

 

Metcalf like Diggs said they wanted to play for a contender....both aren't on a contending team...they signed with teams that paid them more money...

 

I NEVER SAID Diggs left Buffalo because of the money. He left Buffalo because he was being a pain, I said that.

 

he signed with the pats because they paid him more than any other team was willing to pay him right now.

 

I also said of he cared about playing with a contender he would of cont. To "play nice" and stay in Buffalo 

Edited Wednesday at 06:36 PM by Ghost_002!

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

He is an athlete. No money is never enough. Regardless. He left the bills cause that's what he does..wears out his welcome aka "a diva" wide receiver 

 

If you honestly sit there and think most of these athletes won't take money over "I want to play for a SB contender" I got some land I would like to sell you.

 

These athletes and teams weight out all their options and go with the best one all the time.

 

If he truly cared about winning a SB he would of cont. To "play nice" in Buffalo, clearly that wasn't the case. 

 

No athlete is ever gonna refuse more $. And I know about the sarcasm...lol I just seen the statement made here a few times. Ha ha

Not if he didn't think he was going to win one with this coaching staff and front office.

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

And they beat the Bengals last year with that horrible roster they had, the defense should be better. Better coaching staff and a weaker schedule...plus there will be definitely some "any given sunday" win(s) somewhere on their schedule..

That was a huge surprise given the Bengals history of starting the season fast.  I think seven wins is their ceiling because of them likely having to have two rookies starting on the o-line.  On paper right now they have the worst o-line in the league.  Plus, if they take Travis Hunter they'll be very thin on the o-line and if they draft a tackle they'll be really limited as far as passing weapons for Maye.  Not good when your best WR on paper right now is a 31 year old coming off an ACL tear.

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

That was a huge surprise given the Bengals history of starting the season fast.  I think seven wins is their ceiling because of them likely having to have two rookies starting on the o-line.  On paper right now they have the worst o-line in the league.  Plus, if they take Travis Hunter they'll be very thin on the o-line and if they draft a tackle they'll be really limited as far as passing weapons for Maye.  Not good when your best WR on paper right now is a 31 year old coming off an ACL tear.

Sarcasm? 😂

[Ghost_002!]

5 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Not if he didn't think he was going to win one with this coaching staff and front office.

 

 

That's what I was thinking too, but I didn't want to bring it up.

[Doc Brown]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Sarcasm? 😂

The only over/under bet I made of the year was after the Patriots beat the Bengals I managed to get a 5.5 win total line and took the under.  That's how bad the Bengals are at the start of the season EVERY YEAR despite them saying all off-season they need to start fast.

[Ghost_002!]

4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

That was a huge surprise given the Bengals history of starting the season fast.  I think seven wins is their ceiling because of them likely having to have two rookies starting on the o-line.  On paper right now they have the worst o-line in the league.  Plus, if they take Travis Hunter they'll be very thin on the o-line and if they draft a tackle they'll be really limited as far as passing weapons for Maye.  Not good when your best WR on paper right now is a 31 year old coming off an ACL tear.

 

 

I am sure they know they have holes at the Oline..this is a way better coaching staff than last year. They do have the draft to address those Oline issues especially having the number 4 pick. 

 

 

They can pick at No.4 or trade out the pick, pick up more picks and address the Oline holes. 

 

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Diggs’ agents on their way to the Pats facility last week…

[Ghost_002!]

Wait isn't Chris Godwin coming back from the same injury and just got resigned with the Bucs. 

Edited Wednesday at 07:03 PM by Ghost_002!