ColoradoBills Posted Tuesday at 06:41 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:41 PM Spotrac finally has all the contracts on the books. OTC still has 5 not on the books so their numbers are not valid yet. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/_/year/2025 Spotrac has the Bills -$497K. No doubt the Bills are under the cap, but just barely. There are no new restructures announced. Beane no doubt will restructure someone. Most likely it will be Dawkins. That cap savings would be enough to sign rookies, PS, a few lower end FAs and have a few bucks for the season. FWIW Go Bills. 1 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Tuesday at 06:49 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:49 PM 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Ralph is cheap! I literally lol at that Quote
Special K Posted Tuesday at 06:50 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:50 PM When you are paying a Superstar QB at the Superstar QB rate, you will always be close to the cap. For all the grief he gets, Beane has done a reasonable job with the cap space available to him....of course Josh Allen makes his job a lot easier because he can mask many of the deficiencies on the team. No GM bats a thousand, but more times than not Beane finds a way to improve the team and keep it competitive.......hitting on pick 30, 56, and 62 this year will go a long way to getting this team over the hump. Here's to hoping he can make it happen!! 9 1 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted Tuesday at 07:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:01 PM 10 minutes ago, Special K said: When you are paying a Superstar QB at the Superstar QB rate, you will always be close to the cap. For all the grief he gets, Beane has done a reasonable job with the cap space available to him....of course Josh Allen makes his job a lot easier because he can mask many of the deficiencies on the team. No GM bats a thousand, but more times than not Beane finds a way to improve the team and keep it competitive.......hitting on pick 30, 56, and 62 this year will go a long way to getting this team over the hump. Here's to hoping he can make it happen!! I’m so glad Josh didn’t try to squeeze every last penny out of the team. This could be a whole lot worse if we had a greedy A-hole QB. 4 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Tuesday at 07:05 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 07:05 PM Dane Jackson - $1,197,500 - $567,500 Dead Cap Laviska Shenault - $1,070,000 - $15k Dead Cap Kendrick Green - $1,060,000 - $0 Dead Cap Reggie Gilliam - $1,337,500 Cap Hit Ty Johnson - $1,475,000 - Cap Hit 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM This is a good time to remind people that though SPOTRAC does an excellent job at keeping up to date, they are just saying what the contracts currently reflect. This number and the number the players union (which is normally closer to official number) are often off a bit Furthermore, Beane has a completely different number on his desk that reflects what he actually has to work with. He's talked about it before. I believe it's basically a chart with what moves still can be made of a move presents itself that makes sense. They can still make some moves. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Tuesday at 07:20 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 07:20 PM (edited) 27 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: This is a good time to remind people that though SPOTRAC does an excellent job at keeping up to date, they are just saying what the contracts currently reflect. This number and the number the players union (which is normally closer to official number) are often off a bit Furthermore, Beane has a completely different number on his desk that reflects what he actually has to work with. He's talked about it before. I believe it's basically a chart with what moves still can be made of a move presents itself that makes sense. They can still make some moves. He can. Like i said he can get about $8M for restructuring Dawkins but after that it gets problematic. The next players to get cap from are: Knox - Doubt extremely Beane pushes more money into next year. DQ Jones - Last year. A Post June 1 cut does save $5.5M Samuel - Not sure you want to push back money on him. Epenesa - Same as above. McGovern - If he was re-signed also gets some cap relief. T. Johnson - He can get you about $3M. Players after those do not net you much cap at all. Edited Tuesday at 07:37 PM by ColoradoBills 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted Tuesday at 08:14 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:14 PM 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Dane Jackson - $1,197,500 - $567,500 Dead Cap Laviska Shenault - $1,070,000 - $15k Dead Cap Kendrick Green - $1,060,000 - $0 Dead Cap Reggie Gilliam - $1,337,500 Cap Hit Ty Johnson - $1,475,000 - Cap Hit I see that your are checking Sportrac as often as I do Ty Johnson - originally reported as $5M/2, in fact $4/2 with some incentives. Can be cut next year with almost no dead cap. Great deal. Gilliam - same deal as Hamlin, and one thing I don't get. They say it is $2M guaranteed and he gets $2M in cash, but cap hit is $1,3M. Anybody knows how is this possible? Dane - wow he signed basically (or maybe even literally) for vet min. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM (edited) 20 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I see that your are checking Sportrac as often as I do Ty Johnson - originally reported as $5M/2, in fact $4/2 with some incentives. Can be cut next year with almost no dead cap. Great deal. Gilliam - same deal as Hamlin, and one thing I don't get. They say it is $2M guaranteed and he gets $2M in cash, but cap hit is $1,3M. Anybody knows how is this possible? Dane - wow he signed basically (or maybe even literally) for vet min. I was just looking at the Gilliam deal. I think it might be like Hamlin's 4YQC (4-Year Qualifying Contract). They got the same numbers. I agree about the Dane Jackson contract. He gets some signing bonus and guarantee but it sure is lower than I thought it would be. I've noticed that sometimes both Spotrac and OTC do some corrections as they get the info in. We may still see some of that. The big difference I've seen between the 2 is Josh Allen cap hit. Spotrac is adding $1.5M on LTBE incentive which they don't specify and OTC doesn't. Edited Tuesday at 08:35 PM by ColoradoBills Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted Tuesday at 09:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:01 PM 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: He can. Like i said he can get about $8M for restructuring Dawkins but after that it gets problematic. The next players to get cap from are: Knox - Doubt extremely Beane pushes more money into next year. DQ Jones - Last year. A Post June 1 cut does save $5.5M Samuel - Not sure you want to push back money on him. Epenesa - Same as above. McGovern - If he was re-signed also gets some cap relief. T. Johnson - He can get you about $3M. Players after those do not net you much cap at all. Yup. And with some deals they are done and not yet submitted to the league office yet either. For example, they may have already agreed to a pay cut with Samuel and are waiting to make it official. Beane tends to like to move up to the cap and then announce these things with other moves he makes so it doesn't look like he's flush with cash. 1 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Tuesday at 09:15 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 09:15 PM 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Yup. And with some deals they are done and not yet submitted to the league office yet either. For example, they may have already agreed to a pay cut with Samuel and are waiting to make it official. Beane tends to like to move up to the cap and then announce these things with other moves he makes so it doesn't look like he's flush with cash. If Samuel doesn't produce Beane can get out of his contract very easily next March. I don't see him asking for a pay cut. Now Knox on the other hand............no way Beane pays him $12M more cash next year with a $17M cap hit. If Knox wants to stay for 2 more years, he has to give up something this year. If he doesn't, He's as good as gone in 2026. Quote
Pete Posted Wednesday at 11:19 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:19 AM Conor McDermott needs a new deal. This will free up space Quote
GunnerBill Posted Wednesday at 12:02 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:02 PM 16 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: This is a good time to remind people that though SPOTRAC does an excellent job at keeping up to date, they are just saying what the contracts currently reflect. This number and the number the players union (which is normally closer to official number) are often off a bit Furthermore, Beane has a completely different number on his desk that reflects what he actually has to work with. He's talked about it before. I believe it's basically a chart with what moves still can be made of a move presents itself that makes sense. They can still make some moves. Yea we know Spotrac and Beane were $6m apart at the Combine. Spotrac at that stage was projecting the Bills $10m over the cap and Beane was asked about it in his presser and said "right now we are about $4m". You can speculate why that difference was, but I think it is fair to say they were working on slightly different assumptions. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted Wednesday at 12:34 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:34 PM 17 hours ago, Special K said: When you are paying a Superstar QB at the Superstar QB rate, you will always be close to the cap. For all the grief he gets, Beane has done a reasonable job with the cap space available to him....of course Josh Allen makes his job a lot easier because he can mask many of the deficiencies on the team. No GM bats a thousand, but more times than not Beane finds a way to improve the team and keep it competitive.......hitting on pick 30, 56, and 62 this year will go a long way to getting this team over the hump. Here's to hoping he can make it happen!! This is why it’s so important to hit on those first few picks. That’s the best way to find top end talent for this team. If they were able to get McDuffie instead of Elam, how much better would we be feeling? McConkey or Worthy instead of Coleman? Zay Flowers over Kincaid? It’s crucial this year that at least 1 of those 3 picks develops into a top 10 player at their position within the next 2 to 3 years. For example, it would be great if Kenneth Grant became a top 10 1T or Trey Amos a top 10 CB2 (if those were the guys that they picked). They have enough guys but not enough dudes. 1 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted Wednesday at 12:55 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:55 PM 52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea we know Spotrac and Beane were $6m apart at the Combine. Spotrac at that stage was projecting the Bills $10m over the cap and Beane was asked about it in his presser and said "right now we are about $4m". You can speculate why that difference was, but I think it is fair to say they were working on slightly different assumptions. The cap went up $7M 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Wednesday at 01:31 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:31 PM 35 minutes ago, uticaclub said: The cap went up $7M This was after the cap increase had been communicated. There was still a gap between Spotrac and Beane on how far over the Bills were. Quote
MarkyMannn Posted Wednesday at 01:37 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:37 PM 2 hours ago, Pete said: Conor McDermott needs a new deal. This will free up space You mean McGovern, yet I read this as McDavid LOL Quote
BuffaloBill Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM Beane has said that the Bills are up against the cap. I highly doubt there are any more “big” moves outside of Dawkins being restructuted and possibly McGovern being extended. I think the Benford and Cook deals do not happen this year. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Wednesday at 03:07 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 03:07 PM 19 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: This is a good time to remind people that though SPOTRAC does an excellent job at keeping up to date, they are just saying what the contracts currently reflect. This number and the number the players union (which is normally closer to official number) are often off a bit Furthermore, Beane has a completely different number on his desk that reflects what he actually has to work with. He's talked about it before. I believe it's basically a chart with what moves still can be made of a move presents itself that makes sense. They can still make some moves. Spotrac now has Bills with $3M in cap space. Looks like the numbers have settled down. They also corrected Josh's cap hit and added back the cap they took away for the LTBE incentives. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total_top51/dir/desc Quote
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