BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted Friday at 05:55 AM Author Posted Friday at 05:55 AM On 3/26/2025 at 2:09 PM, BillsFanNC said: There's no lengths Roundy won't go to to defend violent illegal alien gang members, including denying their very existence inside Colorado apartment complex takeovers. This thread below is a fun read. Most would leave here in shame after the massive succession of L's Roundy took within. But again, RoundyMao has no shame. What the ***** does this have to do with the topic?
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted Friday at 06:19 AM Author Posted Friday at 06:19 AM (edited) On 3/26/2025 at 1:57 PM, Buffarukus said: It will be automated? So american mechanics/office workers/management/electricians/quality/payroll/programmers ect ect can get a job, even if every production position is done by some robots? Not to mention the property and payroll taxes generated? Machines will need mechanics- some. Office workers??? What office? Electricians- some Quality will all be handled by Musk, personally Payroll is already dumb enough to hardly need someone to actually do it- it's friggin numbers... And as we speak, code monkeys are currently busy inventing algorithms to replace themselves permanently - and those are supposed to be the smart ones... Doctors- 90% replaceable by automation Surgeons- same Lawyers are getting crucified Smelters - done Miners - done Sock weavers - done Every working driver on the planet - done Boat Captains- start training, there'll be some heavy competition Logging, a bit of farming, construction, and creating boutique muffins is the future. What property will be necessary, and what payroll will remain to tax? The world is going to evolve, and 'bringing manufacturing back to America' is a long-term joke of a concept. Get ready for joblessness, replaced by automated lunacy. ... and then there's AI... that'll be a future topic to terrorize this board with. ) Edited Friday at 06:31 AM by BringMetheHeadofLeonLett 1
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted Friday at 06:52 AM Author Posted Friday at 06:52 AM On 3/25/2025 at 6:06 AM, T master said: First off you would need young people that are willing to work or do physical labor & in today's America that's just not happening ! I know more than a few people in businesses that can't find good help let alone someone to show up regularly or that wants to learn to climb the ladder to make better money . Most kids now days think they deserve to be making the money that the boss makes just walking through the door & are entitled to all the perks with out paying their dues . So even if they do bring back manufacturing to the US parents haven't taught their kids that nothing in life is free and actually have taught them that in America you can get a lot of things for "Free" if you just fleece the system . Which is a huge reason why a lot of "Americans" want the influx of immigrants from 3rd world countries because they will do the things that Americans use to do that involve sweat & sore muscles instead of playing mind craft & streaming videos all day ... I'm getting kind of tired of demonizing a generation who are disillusioned by the world their elders have created, or passively allowed to be created. How many absolutely worthless follks did you grow up with- and maybe you're one people could say that about too? Maybe I am, I dunno. But hopefully that's not where we're at today, and I know plenty of 'young folks' who have blown my mind with what they HAVE paid attention to. It's not a lost generation 'out there', it's one more step in the makeup of what we all are.
Buffarukus Posted Friday at 11:17 AM Posted Friday at 11:17 AM (edited) 5 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Machines will need mechanics- some. Office workers??? What office? Electricians- some Quality will all be handled by Musk, personally Payroll is already dumb enough to hardly need someone to actually do it- it's friggin numbers... And as we speak, code monkeys are currently busy inventing algorithms to replace themselves permanently - and those are supposed to be the smart ones... Doctors- 90% replaceable by automation Surgeons- same Lawyers are getting crucified Smelters - done Miners - done Sock weavers - done Every working driver on the planet - done Boat Captains- start training, there'll be some heavy competition Logging, a bit of farming, construction, and creating boutique muffins is the future. What property will be necessary, and what payroll will remain to tax? The world is going to evolve, and 'bringing manufacturing back to America' is a long-term joke of a concept. Get ready for joblessness, replaced by automated lunacy. ... and then there's AI... that'll be a future topic to terrorize this board with. ) Well i only ask because i come from a industrial skill trade background. I was in a industry that desperately wanted to move from old machinery to new. From my perspective it was pretty interesting to see how new over engineered machines were just as needy for human intervention.. and definitely more costly to run. As to not mention specific examples you probably know nothing about ill ask a question? Does your modern car require less manpower then your first? All the sensors, computer operation, blue tooth connected, extra parts and labor to get to? These all require more specialist to design and fix then a simple car that you yourself could maintain back in the day. I could of swore flying self aware cars that order parts and fix themselves was right around the corner by now. Automation requires everything goes perfect all the time. forever. Any error or change in a system requires human intervention. A single valve on a stack leaks and you need a mechanic to asses. A jamup or error needs a operator to jog, home and reset. A single wire or switch..in the hundreds a machine uses, needs a electrician. Any change required in part or action needs programmers and plc specialists and setups. Maybe one day office, payroll, ordering, saftey and managment will be completely automated but as of now those systems are used as tools that steamline things but require humans to oversee implement and maintain. IMO We are not eliminating human intervention for a very long time. decreasing it, yes. Thats true. if automation and high tech was so attactive and in such high demand then why are companies flocking to run to third world countries to begin with? they are not going to beacons of technology areas of the world. They are simply going to places that can exploit HUMAN workers in PLACE of costly machines and automation. If thats true then why would you not be for any effort that supplies that human need, at a modern standard of living, to an american citizen? So Regardless of whether that increases or decreases over time, its better then zero. That is worth not throwing our hands up and pretending the end is near lets all kneel to our robotic overlords and give up on bringing american manufacturing or other jobs back to our country. Edited Friday at 11:57 AM by Buffarukus
T master Posted Friday at 04:07 PM Posted Friday at 04:07 PM On 3/26/2025 at 5:06 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: except trump's budget doesn't do that. the 3 trillion in tax cuts isn't close to being offset by all of the program cuts together. Any way you look at it if the. money that is being spent is for BS that it doesn't need to be spent on then it's total BS &. that money can be saved and put toward something else . Sure you. never going to make up for the Trillions that they have been irresponsibly spending for the past lets say 100 years or so but at least someone is trying to put some kind of a stop to it instead of just blindly writing checks for WTFE tom, dick ,& harry come up and put their hand out expecting US tax payer dollars . How bout using what ever monies saved for the veterans that deserve to be taken care of instead of condoms for the Congo !!! A penny saved is a penny earned !! Any way you look at it !!
T master Posted Friday at 04:30 PM Posted Friday at 04:30 PM (edited) 9 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: I'm getting kind of tired of demonizing a generation who are disillusioned by the world their elders have created, or passively allowed to be created. How many absolutely worthless follks did you grow up with- and maybe you're one people could say that about too? Maybe I am, I dunno. But hopefully that's not where we're at today, and I know plenty of 'young folks' who have blown my mind with what they HAVE paid attention to. It's not a lost generation 'out there', it's one more step in the makeup of what we all are. Every thing I have including my house is PAID FOR IN FULL - I busted my ass to do it so even though you might not like that I am definitely opinionated I'm no where close to being lazy . And in fact at my advanced age could probably still out work any youngster today with the knowledge I have acquired in my life time. I will agree that the prior so called "Parents" of the last couple of generations are responsible for the creation of the youths laziness today, discipline is a thing of the past and the every one gets a trophy movement is total BS ! My wife owns a day care and some of the crap that the state comes up with like if a kid breaks a toy or pisses their pants instead of telling them to stop it or that they did wrong having to ask them "Now Johnny don't you think that you should have handled that a little different & how would you do it next time" or not being able to tell a kid NO because that is negative reinforcement . Well last I checked life ain't fair and if your not allowed to do something NO is the appropriate response but todays parents would rather hand them a iPad so they don't have to be parents and correct them or make them pick up their toys and that's where it all starts ... Then instead of showing those POS people that are keying the Tesla's show the owner going up and knocking the POS in the head, alls it does by glorifying them Ass hats in a video is telling a young kid that there are no consequences and todays laws favor the perp rather than the victim . Just look around the last say 5 or so years . Then ask one of those kids to go out wash the car or help a neighbor to do hay in the fall to help a farmer keep his animals fed or cut & split wood to keep the furnace in the basement going to stay warm then get back to me or go rake leaves of the neighbor and see what their reaction is ... Then get back to me ... Oh there were some useless people but for the most part in my small community you worked for everything you got & earned it not so much today !! Edited Friday at 04:32 PM by T master
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Friday at 05:45 PM Posted Friday at 05:45 PM (edited) Well I never expected eliminating tax breaks for the super rich to be part of the plan . I'll believe it when I see it but it would be good for the country. https://www.axios.com/2025/03/28/trump-taxes-wealthy By the numbers: Currently the top income tax rate is 37%, charged on income above $609,351 for an individual or $731,201 for a married couple. If the 2017 law were allowed to expire, that would jump to the pre-2018 rate of 39.6%, and lower the threshold above which the top rate applies. Around 1% of taxpayers are in that top bracket, though they pay a disproportionate share of income taxes. Under the budget reconciliation rules that Republicans seek to use to extend the tax cuts, that would free up more revenue that could be used to fulfill some of Trump's populist promises, such as eliminating taxes on tips. Zoom out: It would aim to flip the script on Democrats, whose messaging focuses on Republicans potentially slashing Medicaid and enlarging the deficit in order to fund tax cuts for the super-rich. "If we renew tax cuts for the rich paid for by throwing people off Medicaid, we're gonna get !@#$ slaughtered," the White House official said. As the GOP under Trump becomes more of the party of working-class voters, the political risks of raising rich people's taxes are relatively small, compared to the payoff of cutting taxes on tips in the growing service-sector economy. A majority of Americans, including a plurality of Republicans, support raising taxes on wealthier individuals, polls have shown. Edited Friday at 05:46 PM by Joe Ferguson forever 1
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago On 3/28/2025 at 9:30 AM, T master said: Every thing I have including my house is PAID FOR IN FULL - I busted my ass to do it so even though you might not like that I am definitely opinionated I'm no where close to being lazy . And in fact at my advanced age could probably still out work any youngster today with the knowledge I have acquired in my life time. I will agree that the prior so called "Parents" of the last couple of generations are responsible for the creation of the youths laziness today, discipline is a thing of the past and the every one gets a trophy movement is total BS ! My wife owns a day care and some of the crap that the state comes up with like if a kid breaks a toy or pisses their pants instead of telling them to stop it or that they did wrong having to ask them "Now Johnny don't you think that you should have handled that a little different & how would you do it next time" or not being able to tell a kid NO because that is negative reinforcement . Well last I checked life ain't fair and if your not allowed to do something NO is the appropriate response but todays parents would rather hand them a iPad so they don't have to be parents and correct them or make them pick up their toys and that's where it all starts ... Then instead of showing those POS people that are keying the Tesla's show the owner going up and knocking the POS in the head, alls it does by glorifying them Ass hats in a video is telling a young kid that there are no consequences and todays laws favor the perp rather than the victim . Just look around the last say 5 or so years . Then ask one of those kids to go out wash the car or help a neighbor to do hay in the fall to help a farmer keep his animals fed or cut & split wood to keep the furnace in the basement going to stay warm then get back to me or go rake leaves of the neighbor and see what their reaction is ... Then get back to me ... Oh there were some useless people but for the most part in my small community you worked for everything you got & earned it not so much today !! The older generations oversaw a lot of changes for the worse. My gut says you and your hay-bailing neighbors turned to the lowball scam which was Walmart for your Chinese made goods, eliminating not only 1/2 the locally owned businesses, but likely 1/2 the retail jobs which would have given your local kids a sense of purpose... and 80% of the manufacturing jobs located in this country. This is such a mental scam of people ignorantly supporting the Chinese economy and then bemoaning, 'But where did all the USA jobs go'? bull####. Then you all spit at young folks after you saved 2 bucks on your Chinese plastic wheelbarrows. Meanwhile, while you've been saving your pittance on disposable hardware, your donations to these mega-companies instantly suck your money straight out of your local economy, and put it directly into the hands of billionaire investors who buy up your land and develop housing at 8 times the previous cost. Leaving young folks virtually ZERO chance of being able to build themselves up from scratch into becoming homeowners. "I got mine!" You exclaim to the world. Congratulations. Now go vote for more billionaires and corporate tax cuts, as if they pay any anyways, and pine for the good old days while simultaneously screwing future generations out of housing, clean environments and opportunities. You got yours
SectionC3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) On 3/28/2025 at 1:45 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: Well I never expected eliminating tax breaks for the super rich to be part of the plan . I'll believe it when I see it but it would be good for the country. https://www.axios.com/2025/03/28/trump-taxes-wealthy By the numbers: Currently the top income tax rate is 37%, charged on income above $609,351 for an individual or $731,201 for a married couple. If the 2017 law were allowed to expire, that would jump to the pre-2018 rate of 39.6%, and lower the threshold above which the top rate applies. Around 1% of taxpayers are in that top bracket, though they pay a disproportionate share of income taxes. Under the budget reconciliation rules that Republicans seek to use to extend the tax cuts, that would free up more revenue that could be used to fulfill some of Trump's populist promises, such as eliminating taxes on tips. Zoom out: It would aim to flip the script on Democrats, whose messaging focuses on Republicans potentially slashing Medicaid and enlarging the deficit in order to fund tax cuts for the super-rich. "If we renew tax cuts for the rich paid for by throwing people off Medicaid, we're gonna get !@#$ slaughtered," the White House official said. As the GOP under Trump becomes more of the party of working-class voters, the political risks of raising rich people's taxes are relatively small, compared to the payoff of cutting taxes on tips in the growing service-sector economy. A majority of Americans, including a plurality of Republicans, support raising taxes on wealthier individuals, polls have shown. It's a good move for the country but it will end up backfiring on them. It will piss of people like Grover Norquist and the legitimate, real conservatives. And they're still going to throw people off of Social Security and Medicaid. So, come 2026, they'll lose a little bit of the actual conservative vote, and have to deal with Democrats running on the social security/Medicaid issue, as well as the point that the rich still weren't allocated enough of the tax burden. On 3/28/2025 at 12:30 PM, T master said: Every thing I have including my house is PAID FOR IN FULL - I busted my ass to do it so even though you might not like that I am definitely opinionated I'm no where close to being lazy . And in fact at my advanced age could probably still out work any youngster today with the knowledge I have acquired in my life time. I will agree that the prior so called "Parents" of the last couple of generations are responsible for the creation of the youths laziness today, discipline is a thing of the past and the every one gets a trophy movement is total BS ! My wife owns a day care and some of the crap that the state comes up with like if a kid breaks a toy or pisses their pants instead of telling them to stop it or that they did wrong having to ask them "Now Johnny don't you think that you should have handled that a little different & how would you do it next time" or not being able to tell a kid NO because that is negative reinforcement . Well last I checked life ain't fair and if your not allowed to do something NO is the appropriate response but todays parents would rather hand them a iPad so they don't have to be parents and correct them or make them pick up their toys and that's where it all starts ... Then instead of showing those POS people that are keying the Tesla's show the owner going up and knocking the POS in the head, alls it does by glorifying them Ass hats in a video is telling a young kid that there are no consequences and todays laws favor the perp rather than the victim . Just look around the last say 5 or so years . Then ask one of those kids to go out wash the car or help a neighbor to do hay in the fall to help a farmer keep his animals fed or cut & split wood to keep the furnace in the basement going to stay warm then get back to me or go rake leaves of the neighbor and see what their reaction is ... Then get back to me ... Oh there were some useless people but for the most part in my small community you worked for everything you got & earned it not so much today !! I actually agree with a lot of this. What I don't agree with you about is that Trump is the solution or response to any of this. He's just as bad as the children you mentioned. And he's not doing anything that's going to help middle America economically,. Edited 1 hour ago by SectionC3
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