The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans

[BillsFanNC]

I'm surprised we still have people lamenting the sad state of partisan politics....

 

Wake up!

 

We've had...

 

Russian collusion hoax. It happened. The criminal behavior by the FBI is irrefutable. Completely undermined Orange Menace I.

 

The most secure election in US history hoax.

 

The disgusting treatment of trespassing J6ers, parents attending school board meetings and pro-lifers.

 

The unprecedented lawfare to try to frame Trump to prevent him from even running again.

 

Two attempts to assassinate the great orange gasbag.

 

Im sorry, you dont get to "both sides" anything in 2025.

 

You just don't.

 

Again the Trump administration at least admitted they f'd up here.

 

And that's exactly where this nothingburger should end.

 

That's way beyond where I'd go given the precedent set by the last clown show administration. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

32 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

I think it reflects very poorly on both sides. The narratives from both sides is such a pathetic relection on partisan politics today

No.  D's are absolutely correct in keeping this issue in Americans thoughts.  R's are absolutely wrong in not admitting the seriousness of this event and pulling all levers to stop it from happening again.

[Homelander]

34 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

I think it reflects very poorly on both sides. The narratives from both sides is such a pathetic relection on partisan politics today

 

The Trump administration cannot “both-sides” their way out of this.

[nedboy7]

38 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

The Trump administration cannot “both-sides” their way out of this.

 

You can however blame transgender immigrants. 

[Homelander]

8 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

You can however blame transgender immigrants. 

 

Duh.

 

[BillsFanNC]

I'll take three useful idiots who don't deserve a nanosecond of my attention for $500 Alex.

 

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Bill Clinton had 8 years of highly classified audio recordings of his presidency in his sock drawer—and kept his diaries of military secrets.

 

Hillary setup an illegal and unsecured home server of highly classified emails, including Benghazi, to hide her Clinton Foundation foreign-corruption schemes.

 

James Comey brought home classified materials to share with a reporter.

 

Joe Biden had six stashes of stolen classified records going back to his Senate days, moved several times, accessible by his Chinese agent, likely used by Hunter for foreign corruption, and shared with Biden’s ghostwriter to publish in a book.

 

And Biden mass-imported terrorists, gang members, robbers, kidnappers, pedophiles, rapists, and murderers.

 

But Democrats pretend they now care about national security.

[sherpa]

46 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

No.  D's are absolutely correct in keeping this issue in Americans thoughts.  R's are absolutely wrong in not admitting the seriousness of this event and pulling all levers to stop it from happening again.

 

I agree that every every effort should be made to eliminate the possibility of this happening again.

What I would disagree with is overblowing the danger to US forces on these strikes.

 

We are talking about coordinated strikes in Yemen.

That area has very limited, and easily overcome air defenses.

You could tell them a day in advance that a strike was planned, and without naming targets, I wouldn't feel threatened.

 

As background, I have no idea what ships from foreign nations are watching the Truman Task Force.

I do know that it is operating in international waters and might well be being watched by people sympathetic to Iran and the Houthis, if not from those nations specifically.

When we deployed, the carrier was always tailed the second day out of Pearl Harbor through the entire WESTPAC cruise by Soviet intel ships, usually within 15-20 miles.

 

Carriers are not invisible. Getting information on an impending strike is not hard. The F-18's with their visible weapons would have been very visible.

Doing simple math, one could easily predict time on target. Twenty minutes to tank, 350 to "feet dry," then 450 knots or so so to the the target.

 

Heck, when the US launched the attack on Baghdad in 2003, I wrote on another website the time when if would occur, four hours prior.

It wasn't hard. I saw a report that a number of B-52's had launched from a base in the UK. I knew what they carried and I know the times/distances. I was exactly correct, actually the stuff started hitting Baghdad 8 seconds after I predicted.

 

This stuff isn't hard.

 

Again, this is a sloppy, major mistake, and needs to be corrected, but any threat to US forces is exaggerated.

[Homelander]

When you've lost pro-Kremlin fraudster Glen Greenwald.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Coffeesforclosers]

 

44 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

This stuff isn't hard.

 

Again, this is a sloppy, major mistake, and needs to be corrected, but any threat to US forces is exaggerated.

 

Agreed.  Hesgeth's resume so mediocre compared to his current job, it shouldn't be a problem finding an equal or better qualified replacement. Once he's fired or resigns in disgrace.

 

[daz28]

5 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

2.  How could he have committed treason if the info was unclassified?  

 

Apparently, D-day, including D-hour and D-minute are now not considered classified information anymore, despite the fact that the DOD's own policy says it is.  I'm beginning to think that with this administration that something is whatever they say it is.  A football is a crescent wrench if Leavitt says so.  

Edited Thursday at 05:22 PM by daz28

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

Why are democrats generally so unhappy? I thought yall are the party of wealth and culture?

[stevestojan]

3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

I'm surprised we still have people lamenting the sad state of partisan politics....

 

Wake up!

 

We've had...

 

Russian collusion hoax. It happened. The criminal behavior by the FBI is irrefutable. Completely undermined Orange Menace I.

 

The most secure election in US history hoax.

 

The disgusting treatment of trespassing J6ers, parents attending school board meetings and pro-lifers.

 

The unprecedented lawfare to try to frame Trump to prevent him from even running again.

 

Two attempts to assassinate the great orange gasbag.

 

Im sorry, you dont get to "both sides" anything in 2025.

 

You just don't.

 

Again the Trump administration at least admitted they f'd up here.

 

And that's exactly where this nothingburger should end.

 

That's way beyond where I'd go given the precedent set by the last clown show administration. 

January 6th “trespassers” really did a number while trespassing on this officers face. But all is good since Trump pardoned each of them. 
 

 

 

And the Trump administration admitted they ***** up?? 
 

“You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again...This is a guy who peddles in garbage...Nobody was texting war plans and that's all I have to say." 
 

- The Secretary of Defense. 

 

Yeah, that seems like a clear admission to ***** up. 🙄 Nope. Instead he’s picking nits on the definition of war plans. How about “this was a grave error, and we are taking steps to ensure it doesn’t happen again.” Ya know, an adult response. 

Edited Thursday at 06:26 PM by stevestojan

[BillsFanNC]

20 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Why are democrats generally so unhappy? I thought yall are the party of wealth and culture?

 

 

[4th&long]

Fox Reporter Destroys Trump Team’s Excuse for War Plans Group Chat

 

https://flip.it/zFWIYa

 

Even fox had turned on trump and you dumb *****! 

 

Fox’s Jennifer Griffin thinks they’re lying.

“There is a debate about whether the operational details Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared in the Signal Group Chat were ‘classified’or not. So I surveyed a range of current and former US defense officials who agreed ‘war plans’ is not the right term but what was shared may have been FAR MORE sensitive given the operational details and time stamps ahead of the operation, which could have placed US military pilots in harms way,” Griffin wrote.

“What Hegseth shared two hours ahead of the strikes were time-sensitive ‘attack orders’ or ‘operational plans’ with actual timing of the strikes and mention of F18s, MQ9 Reapers and Tomahawks. This information is typically sent through classified channels to the commanders in the field as ‘secret, no [form] message. In other words the information is ‘classified’ and should not be shared through insecure channels.”

 

Griffin continued. “This kind of real time operational information is more sensitive than ‘war plans,’ which makes this lapse more egregious, according to two former senior US defense officials. ‘This information was clearly classified,’ according to former senior defense official #1. The Defense Secretary can retroactively declassify information after the fact, but the fact that this was shared in real time before the strike took place makes it unlikely to have been declassified when it was being shared and seen by the journalist for The Atlantic who was inadvertently included in the Signal chat.”

It says a lot when the administration’s own media wing is starting to get tired of its gaffes.

Edited Thursday at 06:46 PM by 4th&long

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

I agree that every every effort should be made to eliminate the possibility of this happening again.

What I would disagree with is overblowing the danger to US forces on these strikes.

 

We are talking about coordinated strikes in Yemen.

That area has very limited, and easily overcome air defenses.

You could tell them a day in advance that a strike was planned, and without naming targets, I wouldn't feel threatened.

 

As background, I have no idea what ships from foreign nations are watching the Truman Task Force.

I do know that it is operating in international waters and might well be being watched by people sympathetic to Iran and the Houthis, if not from those nations specifically.

When we deployed, the carrier was always tailed the second day out of Pearl Harbor through the entire WESTPAC cruise by Soviet intel ships, usually within 15-20 miles.

 

Carriers are not invisible. Getting information on an impending strike is not hard. The F-18's with their visible weapons would have been very visible.

Doing simple math, one could easily predict time on target. Twenty minutes to tank, 350 to "feet dry," then 450 knots or so so to the the target.

 

Heck, when the US launched the attack on Baghdad in 2003, I wrote on another website the time when if would occur, four hours prior.

It wasn't hard. I saw a report that a number of B-52's had launched from a base in the UK. I knew what they carried and I know the times/distances. I was exactly correct, actually the stuff started hitting Baghdad 8 seconds after I predicted.

 

This stuff isn't hard.

 

Again, this is a sloppy, major mistake, and needs to be corrected, but any threat to US forces is exaggerated.

Many military experts disagree. The houthis have formidable anti aircraft weapons. 

[wnyguy]

3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Many military experts disagree. The houthis have formidable anti aircraft weapons. 

And yet the Air Force hit their targets without difficulty.

[sherpa]

16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Many military experts disagree. The houthis have formidable anti aircraft weapons. 

 

Ya.

So how'd they do, and I am quite aware of their air defense weapons.

Answer....

Zero.

[BillsFanNC]

1. Accidently inviting a reporter to a signal chat about a military operation that ended up being successful in every way?

 

Fire everyone!

 

The reporter once he realized that he was mistakenly invited to the sensitive chat dealing with a military operation began taking screen shots instead of leaving immediately by the way.  So there's that.

 

2. Purposely telling the world about a hard deadline for evacuation from Afghanistan to end our two decade presence there that ended in a complete and total disaster in every way, including thirteen dead Marines? 

 

That was a success.  Why would anyone be held accountable for such a success?  We should be giving out promotions and medals.

[JDHillFan]

51 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Many military experts disagree. The houthis have formidable anti aircraft weapons. 

Can you point me to any of the “many” military experts? I would like to read up on their thoughts. 

Edited Thursday at 07:42 PM by JDHillFan
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