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[uticaclub]

On 3/25/2025 at 1:34 PM, folz said:

 

 

I see what you are going for, but why would you compare Sean (.500 career playoff win %) with Marty (.278 career playoff win %). Wouldn't coaches like Mike McCarthy, Pete Carroll, Sean Peyton, Mike Ditka, Dan Campbell, Demeco Ryans, Lou Saban, Chuck Pagano, and Lovie Smith be better comparisons since they all also have .500 career playoff records? Heck, Don Shula's playoff record was only.528. And out of those 10 coaches, 7 appeared in a Championship game, and 6 have won it all---with two of them (Ryans and Campbell) only having a combined 6 seasons of coaching thus far. So, tell me again how bringing up Schottenheimer somehow equates to McDermott can never reach or win a Super Bowl?

 

 

And obviously Marty had a longer career, and Sean has Josh, but here are some of their career percentages in comparison:

 

              Reg. Season Win%   Playoffs Win%   % of yrs in Playoffs   % of Winning seasons   Top-5 rank points scored%   Top-5 rank in Pts allowed%

Marty             .613                         .278                         61.9                                66.6                                    28.5                                         19.0

Sean              .656                        .500                         87.5                                87.5                                     62.5                                         50.0

 

 

 

 

Take away the games against 7 seeds that didnt make the playoffs until a few years ago. Then McD is 3-7 (.300)

[SoMAn]

1 hour ago, Whites Bay said:

Don't forget the nasal "Rochester A".  It's been known to shatter glass at 50 feet.

Not exactly what that is, but still funny. Are you referring to the 'A' you might hear in.... "I left my paahck of Caahmel cigarettes baaahhck in Caahnada". That one?  

If I go to Buffalo, I have to practice the similar sounding 'O's'....To say "I stopped at Tops to get some pop".....repeat after me...

I Staahpped at Taahps to get some paahp.

 

Speaking of One Bills Live callers. did you ever notice that the old timers, the ones who proudly brag about the being a Bills fan from the days of Kemp and Dubenion, always sound like they have a throat full of phlegm and a deviated septum. Reminds of Tom Carvei pushing Cookie Puss on late night TV ads.

[folz]

57 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Take away the games against 7 seeds that didnt make the playoffs until a few years ago. Then McD is 3-7 (.300)

 

And that would still be better than Schottenheimer's record. 😆 But, yes, let's re-write history and subtract games from a coaches record to prove a point. I'll give a shot at rewriting history too:

 

If from 2020 on we were still in the old playoff format, the Bills would have had a first-round BYE in each of those 4 seasons. We would have been more rested (like K.C.) and have played one less game before facing K.C. Considering that injuries have been an issue for us in a few of those seasons, playing one fewer playoff games and having an extra week of rest would have helped a lot. And considering three of those games against K.C. were in OT, loss by 3 points, and loss by 3 points---maybe we win one or more of those games (being better rested/healthier) and instead of a .300 playoff record as you surmised, we are talking about a coach who made one or more Super Bowl appearances (possibly a SB win). 

 

Plus, saying 7 seeds who wouldn't have even made the playoffs previously makes it sound like those 7 seeds were trash teams or were easier wins, so they almost shouldn't count for McD anyhow. As if maybe we would have had a harder time against 6-seeds than we did 7-seeds, if say we were the 3-seed instead of the 2-seed. But first of all, for that to happen, you would already have to take away a couple of regular-season wins from the Bills in that scenario (to knock us down to a 3-seed), which again would be changing history, but...how much worse were those 7 seeds (compared to say a 6-seed)? Could we have not beat these superior 6-seeds if needed?

 

for the years in question:

2020-2021: We played the 7th-seeded Colts (11-5). The Steelers were the 6-seed (12-4). That's the Pitt team that limped down the stretch, losing 4 of their last 5. And who lost to Buffalo in week 14 of the regular season 26-15. Steelers lost in the first round of the playoffs to the Browns.

2022-2023: We played the 7th-seeded Dolphins (9-8). The Ravens (10-7) were the 6-seed. Again the Ravens were a floundering team, losing 4 of their last 7 down the stretch. They lost to Cincy in the first round of the playoffs and again, the Bills had beat them in the regular season that year.

2023-2024: We played the 7th-seeded Steelers (10-7). The Dolphins (11-6) were the 6-seed. Dolphins lost to K.C. in the first round 26-7. The Bills had beaten the Dolphins twice during that regular season.

2024-2025: We played the 7th seeded Broncos (10-7). The Steelers were the 6-seed, also at 10-7. Steelers lost to Baltimore (who we would go on to beat) in the first round of the playoffs 28-14. We did not play the Steelers during the regular season. But, I think most people would agree that by the end of last year, the Broncos were a much better team than the Steelers were.

 

I would say in at least two, if not three of those seasons, the 7-seed was a better team than the 6-seed. But either way, the Bills would have beaten any of those 6-seeds, no problem.

 

 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Take away the games against 7 seeds that didnt make the playoffs until a few years ago. Then McD is 3-7 (.300)

Give the Bills a bye week to get as healthy as possible and have an extra week to repair then maybe they'd have better results.  No other team has been as negatively impacted by the expansion to seven playoff teams than the Bills.

Edited Thursday at 09:13 PM by Doc Brown

[todd]

If you're getting your primary Bills info from OBL, then you need to branch out. They are OBVIOUSLY going to side with the team on everything because they are paid by the team. Gotta hit other sources, as well.

 

Thankfully we've come a long way from the days of Chuck Dickerson and Jerry Sullivan who would take any negative angle possible.