Keon Coleman FaceTimes Josh Allen - Funny

[Westside]

On 3/22/2025 at 6:17 PM, GunnerBill said:

Keon is a likeable kid. I just wish he was a better player.

Gunner, I respect the heck out of you, but I think (hope) you’re wrong. He’s such an easy guy to root for and I think we haven’t seen the best of him yet. 
 

[Don Otreply]

On 3/22/2025 at 6:17 PM, GunnerBill said:

Keon is a likeable kid. I just wish he was a better player.

So shall I take it that you see no improvement going forward? 

[Royale with Cheese]

I think Coleman is going to be your 50 catch, 7-8 TD and big chunk yardage guy.  He's never going to be Allen's go to or primary target.  

[DCofNC]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

His YBC average for the season is 11.8.  He's not a slot receiver.  He only caught 50% of his targets all year.  Worst of all starters. 

 

Pick another game then:  weeks 15 and 16, he played 66% and 90% of Offensive snaps, caught 4 of 9 targets for 44 yards.  The playoffs he was nonexistent--3 catches in 3 games despite playing 60% of snaps.    For the season he dropped 7% of his targets.  He clearly struggles to get open and to come down with the ball.

 

Kid has a long way to go.

 

 

There ya go trying to use facts to make an argument, that kind of nonsense is a violation of board conduct! 
 

Seriously though, he had a pretty rocky year and the back half was flat out bad.   Can he improve? Sure.  Will he? Nobody can honestly say.  Let’s see what happens, we’ll go from there. 

[zow2]

3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I think Coleman is going to be your 50 catch, 7-8 TD and big chunk yardage guy.  He's never going to be Allen's go to or primary target.  

 

Pretty much.   I think we can expect a few games where he goes off....like 7 for 120, 1 or 2 TDs..  and several games where he's 4 for 40 yds or less and 0 TDs.   That's just how it's gonna roll with Keon.  Thankfully we have Allen and enough other guys to pick up the slack....and a solid run game.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Clearly he's no Worthy but he's going to get better and better.

 

I expect a big jump from him his second year.  He was progressing quite nicely until he got injured.

 

I'm a bit shocked some posters are being so tough on a rookie WR.

 

I also think he's playing out of position.  He needs to start in the slot and run lots of crossers where he gets open with no pressure at the LOS.

 

I don't think Brady is using him the correct way.

[RobbRiddick]

On 3/23/2025 at 2:03 PM, Desert Bills Fan said:

I want the Bills to avoid large bodied, possession receivers. Need a fast, great separation guy. Where we will be picking  - rd 4? - means there will be some but associated. But had bad QB in college, or had injury or is under 6 ft , etc.

Ah, Roscoe Parrish it is then

[BillsShredder83]

On 3/22/2025 at 6:17 PM, GunnerBill said:

Keon is a likeable kid. I just wish he was a better player.

Hey, it'll feel that much cooler if it works out.  People kinda forget, myself included..... after 2 full seasons, this was still the narrative around Josh in a loose'ish way.

"Man this kids cool and likeable, it'd be awesome if 'that' kinda guy became THE HIM we need"

 

Season 3 kicked in--- by week 3, we knew we had a superstar.  Dude kept his head down, stayed humble, worked on his craft

 

How freaking sweet was the fruit of that labor!

 

I do think this offseason is going to be Keon's biggest reflection on how he will turn out.  It really would not shock me if he's completely dedicated to prove the doubters wrong.  I think he has that 'IT' inside him.  No wife, no kids, eat and sleep playing ball.  Dude sees and hears all the doubt.  Hopefully Josh is in his ear, telling him what he went through.

 

I know he has a goofy attitude, but I think he really cares about proving people wrong.  Thats at least half the puzzle.... I'll be honest, Gabe Davis had 'IT' too.  Just didn't work out for whatever reason.  Hopefully Keon does, he could be a unique weapon

 

 

[Fan in Chicago]

The topic of this thread was about his FaceTime when at an army base. Instead of appreciating what the kid is doing and the fun of him video calling with Josh, most of the posters are yet again taking the opportunity to bash Coleman. 

There are tens of other threads to do that without totally hijacking and destroying the fun of the original post. 

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

So shall I take it that you see no improvement going forward? 

 

Oh he can definitely improve. But he would have to totally re-learn his technique in running downfield routes outside to be what the Bills need. Honestly what I see is 3 years of him giving WR2/3 production and then he leaves in free agency for a Gabe Davis type deal when corrected for inflation on a team with a rookie contract QB.

 

[White Linen]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Oh he can definitely improve. But he would have to totally re-learn his technique in running downfield routes outside to be what the Bills need. Honestly what I see is 3 years of him giving WR2/3 production and then he leaves in free agency for a Gabe Davis type deal when corrected for inflation on a team with a rookie contract QB.

 

 

You are saying technique but what troubles me about Keon is that he lacks athleticism in his route running.  I think he can get better too, but I'm worried about him being more than just an average NFL receiver. The issue is his footwork.  Almost every college wide receiver needs to work on technique because you can't have the same success in the NFL as college without it.  For example a speed guy will just rely on that until he improves his technique, if he in fact does improve.

 

Athleticism is a tough thing to acquire.  It appears Keon has the "want to", so hope springs eternal.

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

You are saying technique but what troubles me about Keon is that he lacks athleticism in his route running.  I think he can get better too, but I'm worried about him being more than just an average NFL receiver. The issue is his footwork.  Almost every college wide receiver needs to work on technique because you can't have the same success in the NFL as college without it.  For example a speed guy will just rely on that until he improves his technique, if he in fact does improve.

 

Athleticism is a tough thing to acquire.  It appears Keon has the "want to", so hope springs eternal.

 

It is partly his footwork - especially off the line - that is right. But it is largely that he plays to contact. He wants to feel the DB and play off that. It means he gives up leverage constantly, closes his own spaces and ends up reactive instead of proactive in his routes. I am sure it is his basketball background coming out but that is a concern because it means it is probably deeply ingrained in him. There is a lot of unlearning for him to do. He has to completely change the way he runs downfield routes if he ever wants to separate. It doesn't happen when he is in the slot and gets a free release. In those situations he dictates where he is going and makes defenders react to him. But if he is lined up against a DB outside he looks for that DB and plays off the contact. Unless he fixes it his ceiling is limited.

[White Linen]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is partly his footwork - especially off the line - that is right. But it is largely that he plays to contact. He wants to feel the DB and play off that. It means he gives up leverage constantly, closes his own spaces and ends up reactive instead of proactive in his routes. I am sure it is his basketball background coming out but that is a concern because it means it is probably deeply ingrained in him. There is a lot of unlearning for him to do. He has to completely change the way he runs downfield routes if he ever wants to separate. It doesn't happen when he is in the slot and gets a free release. In those situations he dictates where he is going and makes defenders react to him. But if he is lined up against a DB outside he looks for that DB and plays off the contact. Unless he fixes it his ceiling is limited.

 

I disagree, I don't see that as his biggest issue and I really only see him doing that on deep patterns when he hasn't created separation.  I'd go so far as to say, he hasn't or the team hasn't used his basketball background enough, especially in the red zone.

 

IMO, he's not athletic enough to run the type of routes that create separation.  I.E. the dig route.  I've seen him practicing the curl and comeback routes, so I know he's working on his footwork.  It's just not fully translating.  

 

He may not have a single special trait.  I'm thinking work ethic is the most important thing he'll have, for a chance to be a good receiver.

 

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:25 AM by White Linen

[Bills!Win!]

There’s something about injuries that make bills fans dislike players 

[GunnerBill]

9 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

I disagree, I don't see that as his biggest issue and I really only see him doing that on deep patterns when he hasn't created separation.  I'd go so far as to say, he hasn't or the team hasn't used his basketball background enough, especially in the red zone.

 

IMO, he's not athletic enough to run the type of routes that create separation.  I.E. the dig route.  I've seen him practicing the curl and comeback routes, so I know he's working on his footwork.  It's just not fully translating.  

 

He may not have a single special trait.  I'm thinking work ethic is the most important thing he'll have, for a chance to be a good receiver.

 

 

Fair enough. I don't necessarily think you are wrong on the athleticism bit. But I do think it is a significant problem for him creating separation on boundary routes and it limits his ceiling IMO. Using the basketball skills in the redzone - absolutely - but elsewhere that same technique is hurting him. 

[The Jokeman]

22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

His YBC average for the season is 11.8.  He's not a slot receiver.  He only caught 50% of his targets all year.  Worst of all starters. 

 

Pick another game then:  weeks 15 and 16, he played 66% and 90% of Offensive snaps, caught 4 of 9 targets for 44 yards.  The playoffs he was nonexistent--3 catches in 3 games despite playing 60% of snaps.    For the season he dropped 7% of his targets.  He clearly struggles to get open and to come down with the ball.

 

Kid has a long way to go.

 

 

The kid was also thrown on long routes which are much harder to complete than shorter stuff. I'm not saying he has to work on his hands because yes he did drop a few balls but it a whole lot harder to complete a 10-15 yard out vs a 5 yard slant in most cases. 

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

The kid was also thrown on long routes which are much harder to complete than shorter stuff. I'm not saying he has to work on his hands because yes he did drop a few balls but it a whole lot harder to complete a 10-15 yard out vs a 5 yard slant in most cases. 

 

 

Well yeah, short routes are easier--this is why RBs routinely have amongst the highest catch % in the league.  But WRs on the outside are drafted and paid to run those routes and catch those passes.

[TheWeatherMan]

On 3/22/2025 at 3:50 PM, chongli said:

 

Give him another year. It took Eric Moulds three years to break out. Keon is going to stun us all, for the better! 

Moulds (40: 4.5) - Had relatively bad QBs most of career.  Washed up Bledsoe, Rob Johnson, Flutie Flakes and JP Losman. 
 

Coleman (40: 4.61 ) - Has a first ballot HoF QB in his prime throwing him the ball

[uticaclub]

This thread should emphasize how great of a teammate Josh is, rather than focusing on Keon’s career projections.

[Low Positive]

19 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

The topic of this thread was about his FaceTime when at an army base. Instead of appreciating what the kid is doing and the fun of him video calling with Josh, most of the posters are yet again taking the opportunity to bash Coleman. 

There are tens of other threads to do that without totally hijacking and destroying the fun of the original post. 

This result was very predictable. The posters that participate in the board during the offseason are, for the most part, negative posters. Even people who are not exclusively negative get pulled into the dark side due to TBD groupthink. You can't say anything positive about the Bills right now for fear of being branded with the scarlet H. There are a few narratives that are treated like scientific laws around here right now, and god help anyone who challenges them. Keon Coleman and Dalton Kincaid as irredeemable draft busts is one of them. Put on a flame suit if you want to challenge that.