Keon Coleman FaceTimes Josh Allen - Funny

[Solomon Grundy]

8 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Keon was effective down the field, down the sidelines, and in contested catch situations. He had some manufactured touches but go back and watch his highlights it wasn't heavy on manufactured situations. That's not to say that there weren't some struggles and concerns too. But the kind of success that he had wasn't what you described. 

I'd like to see get more RAC routes to show his abilities. He was a return man in college and was good in the gauntlet drill at the combine

[US Egg]

1 hour ago, Since1981 said:

We have to calm on Keon. The dude has less than 5 months playing pro football.

Don’t think the light heartedness of the thread was meant to trigger a dissection of Coleman. But here you have it.

[Desert Bills Fan]

I want the Bills to avoid large bodied, possession receivers. Need a fast, great separation guy. Where we will be picking  - rd 4? - means there will be some but associated. But had bad QB in college, or had injury or is under 6 ft , etc.

[Mister Defense]

Great. Thanks.

 

Only wish that Coleman gave Josh a little more time to say something directly to the troops.

 

These two better be spending an inordinate amount of time together this off season, practicing as much as possible, and hopefully with at least 1-2 of the other wideouts when possible.  And I don't mean 1-2 weeks..

 

Because if Coleman has the kind of year it looked like he was going to have before the injury, the league should be on notice.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 03:00 PM by Mister Defense

[BillytheKid]

I know some are saying they wish Keon was better but if you go watch that video with Josh Allen 2024 MVP season highlights, Keon actually even made more big plays than I remember him doing during the season.

 

So it didn’t seem quite as bad to me. He definitely showed he can make plays for sure on some of those catches.

 

I know he got hurt and it caused him to not do quite as well the last few games but he actually wasn’t as bad as some people think if you go watch that highlight video of Josh. 

[First Round Bust]

21 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I don't think he's a bad player. 

 

I remember just before the draft last year someone did a "Which player do you want the Bills to avoid" thread. Coleman was mine. 

 

My response was something along the lines as "Not that he's not going to be ok, he may be. He's just not the type WR the Bills need".

 

I stand by that opinion almost a year later. He showed a few flashes. Less then I hoped ...but a few. Hoping he develops a bit more this year. I think he can earn a useful role. Still wish we went in another direction last year, however.

my reaction to the Bills drafting Josh back in the day was almost the same...I thought he had too many flaws...accuracy, played against inferior competition, etc

[Mr. WEO]

20 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Keon had in 13 games 556 yards on a 19.2 ypc with 4 TD's at age 21. Had he stayed healthy he was on pace for roughly 770 yards and 5-6 TD's. Even just taking his stats at face value that's still a solid rookie season for a WR.

 

 

no reason to believe that at all.  he had 2 games over 51 yards and 6 under 30.

 

in his last 4 games he had 7 catches--2/10 in the final game.  He was nonexistent in the playoffs.  add those 3 games (3/8, 23 yards) and the last 4 of the season and you get 10/29 for 131 yards (64 going in one game).  

 

He ran out of gas in his rookie season.  Hope he is serious about getting ready for this season.  

[billsfan89]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

no reason to believe that at all.  he had 2 games over 51 yards and 6 under 30.

 

in his last 4 games he had 7 catches--2/10 in the final game.  He was nonexistent in the playoffs.  add those 3 games (3/8, 23 yards) and the last 4 of the season and you get 10/29 for 131 yards (64 going in one game).  

 

He ran out of gas in his rookie season.  Hope he is serious about getting ready for this season.  

 

He also had a significant injury but if you extrapolated his stats over 13 games to a 17 game season his stats were about 770 yards and 5-6 TD's. I don't think he necessarily "ran out of gas" I think the injury derailed his momentum and he just never got it back as he didn't have that experience and the Bills also were leaning even more into a power running game as the weather got colder. 

 

On top of that he is just 21 years old (22 going into this season). I think acting like he's a bust or not going to be able to improve in year 2 and beyond is foolish. 

[Mr. WEO]

40 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

He also had a significant injury but if you extrapolated his stats over 13 games to a 17 game season his stats were about 770 yards and 5-6 TD's. I don't think he necessarily "ran out of gas" I think the injury derailed his momentum and he just never got it back as he didn't have that experience and the Bills also were leaning even more into a power running game as the weather got colder. 

 

On top of that he is just 21 years old (22 going into this season). I think acting like he's a bust or not going to be able to improve in year 2 and beyond is foolish. 

 

who knows the future?

 

Extrapolations never make sense.  the kid couldn't play the whole season--his rookie season.  he averaged 4 targets per game before he went out, 5 after he got back and 3 in the playoffs.  Weather and power game were therefore not factor.

 

After he came back and through the playoffs, his catch % was an abysmal 35% over 7 games.  For the season he was 50%--team worst of any starter at any position.  

 

Let Beane help you out here:

 

“I would say, probably was a little disappointed in the return from the injury. I did not see the same player down the stretch from a physicality, some of the things that he needs to use his size,” Beane said, via the team’s website. “Some of that is youth, some of that is, I’m not sure how many injuries he’s had to overcome in-season and come back. That takes a certain experience level, how to deal with an injury and how to return.”

 

“He has a skill set that we think will play well in this offense, but it’s up to him,” Beane said. “He’s going to have to work very hard this offseason, him and Josh continue to work on that rapport together."

 

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

On 3/22/2025 at 6:17 PM, GunnerBill said:

Keon is a likeable kid. I just wish he was a better player.

 

He was somewhat of a raw prospect who only played a few years of football and was a former basketball player.

 

IMHO, his ceiling is far higher than where he is now. 

[billsfan89]

54 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

who knows the future?

 

Extrapolations never make sense.  the kid couldn't play the whole season--his rookie season.  he averaged 4 targets per game before he went out, 5 after he got back and 3 in the playoffs.  Weather and power game were therefore not factor.

 

After he came back and through the playoffs, his catch % was an abysmal 35% over 7 games.  For the season he was 50%--team worst of any starter at any position.  

 

Let Beane help you out here:

 

“I would say, probably was a little disappointed in the return from the injury. I did not see the same player down the stretch from a physicality, some of the things that he needs to use his size,” Beane said, via the team’s website. “Some of that is youth, some of that is, I’m not sure how many injuries he’s had to overcome in-season and come back. That takes a certain experience level, how to deal with an injury and how to return.”

 

“He has a skill set that we think will play well in this offense, but it’s up to him,” Beane said. “He’s going to have to work very hard this offseason, him and Josh continue to work on that rapport together."

 

 

 

 

 

Extrapolations are just estimates of course, I think had Keon stayed healthy he would have exceeded 700 yards and tacked on 1-2 TD's in a middle range projection. Of course he could go below or above that it's all just a guess. Of course Keon is going to have to learn to overcome adversity and improve upon his rookie season. By all accounts he's a hard worker with a high football IQ, so the effort will be there. 

[RyanC883]

Did the guy ever do the 50 pushups?

[transplantbillsfan]

On 3/22/2025 at 12:17 PM, GunnerBill said:

Keon is a likeable kid. I just wish he was a better player.

 

It's early

 

Honest question since you're more into the weeds than many of us:

 

Don't you think the Keon Coleman pre-injury last year was having a pretty solid rookie WR season?

Edited Monday at 04:01 AM by transplantbillsfan

[Mr. WEO]

11 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Extrapolations are just estimates of course, I think had Keon stayed healthy he would have exceeded 700 yards and tacked on 1-2 TD's in a middle range projection. Of course he could go below or above that it's all just a guess. Of course Keon is going to have to learn to overcome adversity and improve upon his rookie season. By all accounts he's a hard worker with a high football IQ, so the effort will be there. 

 

Beane's quote suggests he thinks otherwise.  Given how he performed in 7 games after he was judged healthy to return, he would not have hit those numbers.  He was not good.  He caught 2 of 10 targets in week 18.

 

[Commish]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Beane's quote suggests he thinks otherwise.  Given how he performed in 7 games after he was judged healthy to return, he would not have hit those numbers.  He was not good.  He caught 2 of 10 targets in week 18.

 

Week 18 elite QB Mitchell Trubisky was throwing the ball...

[RkFast]

I really wish Id see more "entertaining" stuff from Coleman ON the field. 

[The Jokeman]

Interesting things here to say the least

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Commish said:

Week 18 elite QB Mitchell Trubisky was throwing the ball...

 

come on..."the Bills could win 11 games with Trubisky"

 

anyway, in the same game, Samuel went 7/8, Hollins 3/4, Morris 3/4, Davis 2/3.  Trubisky wasn't the problem.

 

Coleman went 3 for 8 in the playoffs with the NFL's best QB looking his way.

[Commish]

9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

come on..."the Bills could win 11 games with Trubisky"

 

anyway, in the same game, Samuel went 7/8, Hollins 3/4, Morris 3/4, Davis 2/3.  Trubisky wasn't the problem.

 

Coleman went 3 for 8 in the playoffs with the NFL's best QB looking his way.

I don't have access to the stats of depth of target per throw, but based simply on average depth of completion, Coleman's throws were twice the distance of next closest, 15.5 yds v 8.3yds for Hollins. I'll give you that my recollection of the game was that Coleman seemed to be mailing it in, but given who was throwing him the ball, and the fact that it was not in the Bills interest to win this game, I understand it...not a reflection of talent or lack thereof, IMO

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Commish said:

I don't have access to the stats of depth of target per throw, but based simply on average depth of completion, Coleman's throws were twice the distance of next closest, 15.5 yds v 8.3yds for Hollins. I'll give you that my recollection of the game was that Coleman seemed to be mailing it in, but given who was throwing him the ball, and the fact that it was not in the Bills interest to win this game, I understand it...not a reflection of talent or lack thereof, IMO

 

 

His YBC average for the season is 11.8.  He's not a slot receiver.  He only caught 50% of his targets all year.  Worst of all starters. 

 

Pick another game then:  weeks 15 and 16, he played 66% and 90% of Offensive snaps, caught 4 of 9 targets for 44 yards.  The playoffs he was nonexistent--3 catches in 3 games despite playing 60% of snaps.    For the season he dropped 7% of his targets.  He clearly struggles to get open and to come down with the ball.

 

Kid has a long way to go.