Mikie2times Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Our executive branch will use its power to grant/remove funding or access to force business and institutions to comply with its request. These requests don’t appear to be on behalf of the American people. They seem to be derived from personal issues the executive branch has with these entities. While this is being supported (I assume) by Trump base? It’s almost like Trump is abusing the power voters gave him to pursue his personal grievances (stunning). I’m curious what arguments the Trump voters use to justify these types of things? I’m sure you have your talking points on how democrats engaged in similar behavior? Curious how similar those examples are… Columbia University https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna197261 Paul Weiss https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna197490 1 1
Homelander Posted March 22 Posted March 22 C'mon man, this administration doesn't care about the American people.
Doc Posted March 22 Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 4:35 AM, Mikie2times said: Our executive branch will use its power to grant/remove funding or access to force business and institutions to comply with its request. These requests don’t appear to be on behalf of the American people. They seem to be derived from personal issues the executive branch has with these entities. While this is being supported (I assume) by Trump base? It’s almost like Trump is abusing the power voters gave him to pursue his personal grievances (stunning). I’m curious what arguments the Trump voters use to justify these types of things? I’m sure you have your talking points on how democrats engaged in similar behavior? Curious how similar those examples are… Columbia University https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna197261 Paul Weiss https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna197490 Expand Yes, forcing universities to actually protect their Jewish students is not in the interest of the American people. Good one. 1 1
T master Posted March 22 Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 4:46 AM, Homelander said: C'mon man, this administration doesn't care about the American people. Expand So then we the people should pay Millions for college students to go around spreading hatred towards any group of people I bet if it they were protesting against the gay community ya'll would be bitchin pretty loud ! Then I suppose it's wrong to actually give jobs to the best person available but instead give a job to some one who is of a certain color, race, or religion just because you need to be more diverse right ? Well then let's fire Josh and give the QB job to a Palestinian because there aren't any Palestinian QB's in the NFL . Yah that makes total sense in your world on both counts right ?? And besides why should a private college receive Millions of tax payer dollars any way, then have the prior POTUS say that those attending that or any college shouldn't have to pay for the loans they took out and that the gov't will also pay for it ? Dam if that isn't a stroke of genius right there, but you were all for that too I bet . I would imagine your check book is just a treasure trove of addition & subtraction ... But when you or the people follow the example of leadership of this country for the last 100+ years what should we expect given those examples ? Oh that's right they are entitled because it's America . Never mind .
Mikie2times Posted March 22 Author Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/22/2025 at 12:46 PM, Doc said: Yes, forcing universities to actually protect their Jewish students is not in the interest of the American people. Good one. Expand You think it’s about that and not the fact that Columbia rejected the purchase of Trumps properties in the early 90’s? Sort of like Tariffs are about drugs? Why was this law firm and Columbia so special? I don’t have to agree with your politics but you aren’t stupid. I’m asking an honest question. Edited March 22 by Mikie2times
Mikie2times Posted March 22 Author Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 1:45 PM, T master said: So then we the people should pay Millions for college students to go around spreading hatred towards any group of people I bet if it they were protesting against the gay community ya'll would be bitchin pretty loud ! Then I suppose it's wrong to actually give jobs to the best person available but instead give a job to some one who is of a certain color, race, or religion just because you need to be more diverse right ? Well then let's fire Josh and give the QB job to a Palestinian because there aren't any Palestinian QB's in the NFL . Yah that makes total sense in your world on both counts right ?? And besides why should a private college receive Millions of tax payer dollars any way, then have the prior POTUS say that those attending that or any college shouldn't have to pay for the loans they took out and that the gov't will also pay for it ? Dam if that isn't a stroke of genius right there, but you were all for that too I bet . I would imagine your check book is just a treasure trove of addition & subtraction ... But when you or the people follow the example of leadership of this country for the last 100+ years what should we expect given those examples ? Oh that's right they are entitled because it's America . Never mind . Expand None of this has anything to do with the question. The executive branch is leveraging government funding and executive orders to force private entities to behave as this administration wants them to. In both the examples provided the President has a history with these entities. So are you saying these actions have nothing to do with retribution from Trump?
BillsFanNC Posted March 22 Posted March 22 The Paul Weiss firm admitted wrongdoing, so there's that. As for Columbia, I would think that violating the civil rights of any group, in this case jews, would have liberals calling for something to be done, right?
Mikie2times Posted March 22 Author Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/22/2025 at 2:47 PM, BillsFanNC said: The Paul Weiss firm admitted wrongdoing, so there's that. As for Columbia, I would think that violating the civil rights of any group, in this case jews, would have liberals calling for something to be done, right? Expand If I had a gun to your head would you admit wrong doing? His executive orders were going to all but shut them down. Is Columbia the only institution that is behaving this way or is it the only institution Trump has a history with that is behaving this way? Edited March 22 by Mikie2times
BillsFanNC Posted March 22 Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 2:49 PM, Mikie2times said: If I had a gun to your head would admit wrong doing? Expand I'm sorry. I missed the Trump administration holding that gun. On 3/22/2025 at 2:49 PM, Mikie2times said: Is Columbia the only institution that is behaving this way or is the only institution Trump has an ace to grind with that is behaving this way? Expand Absolutely not, but it was one of if not the most egregious violator. I expect the others to be dealt with as well.
Mikie2times Posted March 22 Author Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/22/2025 at 2:51 PM, BillsFanNC said: I'm sorry. I missed the Trump administration holding that gun. Absolutely not, but it was one of if not the most egregious violator. I expect the others to be dealt with as well. Expand So in your eyes none of this has any elements of being self serving? Edited March 22 by Mikie2times
BillsFanNC Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/22/2025 at 2:53 PM, Mikie2times said: So in your eyes none of this has any elements of being self serving? Expand I suggest that you read the Paul Weiss EO yourself. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/addressing-risks-from-paul-weiss/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/addressing-remedial-action-by-paul-weiss/ Edited March 22 by BillsFanNC
Mikie2times Posted March 22 Author Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/22/2025 at 3:00 PM, BillsFanNC said: I suggest that you read the Paul Weiss EO yourself. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/addressing-risks-from-paul-weiss/ Expand Does anything past this point really matter? He's targeting a private entity that pursued action against him in the past. He's removing that companies ability to operate using tools of the executive branch. Once that company "apologized" and offered 40 million dollars in future legal services to the Trump administration (with the alternative being suffer 100's of million of dollars in financial losses) now they can operate normally again. You take this as a legitimate politics? It's normal to you that private entities are being coerced by the executive branch based on past, negative relationships with the president? Coincidentally Columbia University rejected Trumps proposal for them to expand in the early 90's into Trump owned properties. Most people around the events at that time made it pretty clear how much Trump was bothered with his interactions with Columbia and the fact that they wouldn't move forward with the deal. Tariffs are because of Fentanyl and Columbia is because of Jews and Paul Weiss is because of inclusion and woke policies. Got it..... Edited March 22 by Mikie2times
Doc Posted March 22 Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 2:39 PM, Mikie2times said: You think it’s about that and not the fact that Columbia rejected the purchase of Trumps properties in the early 90’s? Sort of like Tariffs are about drugs? Why was this law firm and Columbia so special? I don’t have to agree with your politics but you aren’t stupid. I’m asking an honest question. Expand
BillsFanNC Posted March 22 Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 3:16 PM, Mikie2times said: Does anything past this point really matter? He's targeting a private entity that pursued action against him in the past. He's removing that companies ability to operate using tools of the executive branch. Once that company "apologized" and offered 40 million dollars in future legal services to the Trump administration (with the alternative being suffer 100's of million of dollars in financial losses) now they can operate normally again. You take this as a legitimate politics? It's normal to you that private entities are being coerced by the executive branch based on past, negative relationships with the president? Coincidentally Columbia University rejected Trumps proposal for them to expand in the early 90's into Trump owned properties. Most people around the events at that time made it pretty clear how much Trump was bothered with his interactions with Columbia and the fact that they wouldn't move forward with the deal. Tariffs are because of Fentanyl and Columbia is because of Jews and Paul Weiss is because of inclusion and woke policies. Got it..... Expand The way justice is supposed to work in this country is when you have a crime you investigate the crime and bring those responsible to justice. Paul Weiss via former employee Mark Pomerantz began investigating Trump searching for crimes. Backwards banana republic crap. They've admitted they did it and other "pro bono" work in order to knee cap political enemies. Furthermore, Paul Weiss could have dug in and filed a lawsuit in an undoubtedly super friendly jurisdiction to fight the EO. They chose not to. I wonder why?
Wacka Posted March 22 Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 2:53 PM, Mikie2times said: So in your eyes none of this has any elements of being self serving? Expand You can nip the TDS in the bud. TDS is like tertiary syphilis. You have an early stage. Stop it before you end up like Tibby or Slime and your brain is swiss cheese.
Mikie2times Posted March 22 Author Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 6:58 PM, Wacka said: You can nip the TDS in the bud. TDS is like tertiary syphilis. You have an early stage. Stop it before you end up like Tibby or Slime and your brain is swiss cheese. Expand Stunning his his behavior is normalized by his base. Everything has a justification. How about impeaching judges vs just following the court system? When is that open defiance of the judicial system coming? He has prepped his base for awhile now that his defiance of the courts will be for the greater good. That it's the liberal judges that just want to stop American progress. That we, as Americans, need his strength. As he moves you slowly away from democracy, you will be the one arguing it's for the greater good, doing his bidding for him. It's already playing out.
T master Posted March 22 Posted March 22 On 3/22/2025 at 2:47 PM, Mikie2times said: None of this has anything to do with the question. The executive branch is leveraging government funding and executive orders to force private entities to behave as this administration wants them to. In both the examples provided the President has a history with these entities. So are you saying these actions have nothing to do with retribution from Trump? Expand There is possible governmental retribution but I think there should be in some instances . Every action has a equal or larger reaction if those students want to protest and because of those protest cause violence against others then the reaction is due to the actions of those students - IMHO so be it ...
Homelander Posted March 23 Posted March 23 On 3/22/2025 at 1:45 PM, T master said: protesting against the gay community Expand Oh, they're already way ahead of you - just count the endless parade of LGBTQ+ threads cluttering up this site. Because apparently some people have nothing better to do than obsess over other people's identities 24/7.
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