Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[NoSaint]

35 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I would think for a 1st round 1-tech, it has to be someone that can play all 3 downs.  I don't see them spending a high value asset on a big guy who just plugs holes....they can wait to get that guy in like the 3rd round IMO.  I just don't see them using a 1st pick that would play 30%-35% of the time as just a run defender.

or much more cheaply in free agency than the type of player you target day 1

[SoCal Deek]

46 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I would think for a 1st round 1-tech, it has to be someone that can play all 3 downs.  I don't see them spending a high value asset on a big guy who just plugs holes....they can wait to get that guy in like the 3rd round IMO.  I just don't see them using a 1st pick that would play 30%-35% of the time as just a run defender.

While I don’t disagree with the basic point I thought one of the reasons to draft a big fat guy was to free up Oliver to apply pressure up the middle on passing downs. 

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

While I don’t disagree with the basic point I thought one of the reasons to draft a big fat guy was to free up Oliver to apply pressure up the middle on passing downs. 

 

I agree we need that, just think you can get that type of guy later on.  

[mjt328]

1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Mcbeane both commented on size and power both end of year and at the combine.  McDermott said they had to really take a look at what they have done to date and knew they needed to make changes.

 

McDermott's comment was in regards to bigger DT's than he normally has.  The power thing came from Beane in regards to speed.  McDermott  said we must stretch the field vertically. 

 

When McDermott says they need to make a change that is HUGE.  That tells me he knows adjustments must be made to get over the top.

 

That is why imho,  a BIG 1 tech, a CB with size and speed and a WR who can stretch the field will be our first 3 picks.  I am going by what I have hear from the Mcbeane duo this offseason, combined with what Philly did to KC.

 

I may be wrong,but I expect that is how our entire draft will go.

 

Even with Josh Allen at QB, the offense has needed to adapt and change over the years.

Last year, they became more balanced between run/pass.  Targets started going to whoever was open, rather than force-feeding one guy.  

It resulted in possibly the best offense this franchise has ever put on a football field.

 

It's time for the defense to do the same.  Find ways to become versatile, unpredictable and adapt better to different opponents.

Everyone knows what to expect from a McDermott defense.... where it's strong, and where it's weak.

 

I've been pushing for years for the Bills to get better in running man-coverage, and blitzing more often.

Having a huge 1-Tech in the middle is something we've never really seen in a McDermott defense.  We are always undersized.

Someone like Grant can potentially take those double-teams.  But he's also athletic enough to move and get after the passer.

 

[BuffaloBaumer]

So if Buffalo is #4 in defense on 1st and 2nd down, but 29th on 3rd down, wouldn't you think it has to be DB, Safety, or DE in the first round?

[NeverOutNick]

Didn’t do my usual in depth draft analysis but in the first round if we stay put I’m good with:

 

DTs - Grant, Nolen, Harmon

DBs - W Johnson, Baron, Hairston, Starks

WRs - Golden, Burden, McMillan

 

I don’t trust Amos, he feels like a Elam pick, handsy and stiff imo

 

Also later in the draft I want to get a couple WRs PLEASE. Restrepo and Tez Johnson are guys who didn’t test well but both are very good WRs that we can get late

[That's No Moon]

3 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Didn’t do my usual in depth draft analysis but in the first round if we stay put I’m good with:

 

DTs - Grant, Nolen, Harmon

DBs - W Johnson, Baron, Hairston, Starks

WRs - Golden, Burden, McMillan

 

I don’t trust Amos, he feels like a Elam pick, handsy and stiff imo

 

Also later in the draft I want to get a couple WRs PLEASE. Restrepo and Tez Johnson are guys who didn’t test well but both are very good WRs that we can get late

Restrepo will be late to a lot of things but it would make Coleman seems faster by comparison.

[turbo044]

4 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Didn’t do my usual in depth draft analysis but in the first round if we stay put I’m good with:

 

DTs - Grant, Nolen, Harmon

DBs - W Johnson, Baron, Hairston, Starks

WRs - Golden, Burden, McMillan

 

I don’t trust Amos, he feels like a Elam pick, handsy and stiff imo

 

Also later in the draft I want to get a couple WRs PLEASE. Restrepo and Tez Johnson are guys who didn’t test well but both are very good WRs that we can get late

As for WR, Rather get a 4.4 receiver early or late and give our offense something it doesn't have.  Royal, Tai Felton, Bond (if his story checks out), and I'm really intrigued by Thornton (6'5" 4.4 guys don't come around often).

[mannc]

My dream top 3 for the Bills:  

 

30:  Kenneth Grant

56:  Darien Porter

62:  Kyle Williams

 

I think it's doable, but there might have to be a slight trade up, either for Grant or Porter... 

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Restrepo will be late to a lot of things but it would make Coleman seems faster by comparison.

What role would a rookie WR have on this team beyond special teams?

 

Palmer, Shakir, Coleman, Samuel.  

Those 4 aren’t going anywhere, and unless we go WR in the first 2 rounds, they aren’t getting supplanted by a rookie.  
 

And if we went WR in the first two rounds, with our needs at DB and DT, I’d be pissed 

 

[Roundybout]

 

Id be down to trade a mid-round pick for Newsome, then spend our first on Grant. 

[That's No Moon]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

What role would a rookie WR have on this team beyond special teams?

 

Palmer, Shakir, Coleman, Samuel.  

Those 4 aren’t going anywhere, and unless we go WR in the first 2 rounds, they aren’t getting supplanted by a rookie.  
 

And if we went WR in the first two rounds, with our needs at DB and DT, I’d be pissed 

 

Restrepo would be a solid coat rack.

[NeverOutNick]

2 minutes ago, turbo044 said:

As for WR, Rather get a 4.4 receiver early or late and give our offense something it doesn't have.  Royal, Tai Felton, Bond (if his story checks out), and I'm really intrigued by Thornton (6'5" 4.4 guys don't come around often).

I’d love to trade a 4th for Jameson Williams. He fits exactly what we need and hopefully his maturity issues are behind him

[Brandon]

Just now, BuffaloBaumer said:

So if Buffalo is #4 in defense on 1st and 2nd down, but 29th on 3rd down, wouldn't you think it has to be DB, Safety, or DE in the first round?

 

Not necessarily.  Relative player grades still apply at 30,  as well as their expectations for availability at 56 and 62 (or trading up from one or both).  

 

That being said,  I think it's likely that they take their best remaining CB at 30.  I also think it's vital that they find a good run defending 1T that can anchor the LOS and I hope they've taken care of that by the end of R2.  

 

DE is a difficult one to project,  IMO.  They clearly need an elite rush end.  The problem is,  they have four significant contracts on the roster (Rousseau,  Bosa,  Epenesa,  Hoecht) plus a developmental prospect they seem to like (Solomon).   They probably won't keep more than 5.  If you pick one at 30,  he pushes Solomon off the roster (or Epenesa is traded),  but there's a high chance that he gets lost among that group as a rookie and doesn't do much.  To me,  it looks more appropriate to take a guy in R3-5 to compete with Solomon as the developmental guy and then see what you have at the end of the year. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Virgil said:

What role would a rookie WR have on this team beyond special teams?

 

Palmer, Shakir, Coleman, Samuel.  

Those 4 aren’t going anywhere, and unless we go WR in the first 2 rounds, they aren’t getting supplanted by a rookie.  
 

And if we went WR in the first two rounds, with our needs at DB and DT, I’d be pissed 

 

 

Agreed,  and there's a similar problem at DE,  with the rookie behind Rousseau,  Bosa,  Epenesa and Hoecht on the roster and likely just in immediate competition with Solomon.  If he doesn't hit the ground running...and most late 1st round DEs don't...he's probably not going to do anything this year. 

[turbo044]

1 minute ago, mannc said:

My dream top 3 for the Bills:  

 

30:  Kenneth Grant

56:  Darien Porter

62:  Kyle Williams

 

I think it's doable, but there might have to be a slight trade up, either for Grant or Porter... 

Love it - mine too, I would widen it to (my dreams capitalized)

30: GRANT or Williams

45-56: REVEL, Morrison or Porter (even if we have to do a slight trade up)

57-62:  ROYAL or Williams (again even if we have to to a slight trade up)

DL Later:  2nd DL:  West, Phillips, Farmer, WALKER, Norman Lott - I'm really intrigued by Walker as he looked like a sure fire 1st rounder after his 2023 season then played 2024 with a broken back.

DB: Later:  Porter, Nohl Williams, Bryant, RANSAW, Frazier

 

Bean has 10 picks and won't be using them all.  

[gonzo1105]

7 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Id be down to trade a mid-round pick for Newsome, then spend our first on Grant. 

 

Yea I’ve always liked Newsome. Think he’d be a good fit on this roster as well. Bills seemed to have some interest in him coming out of Northwestern just don’t think they can fit his 13 million under the cap and not sure if he’s a player you’d want to extend at this point after having a down season 

[turbo044]

Something like this, just done on PFN.com

30. Kenneth GrantDT Michigan

56. Benjamin MorrisonCB Notre Dame

62. Jalen RoyalsWR Utah State

109. Deone WalkerDT Kentucky

132. Caleb RansawCB Tulane

169. Kyle MonangaiRB Rutgers

170. Jake BriningstoolTE Clemson

173. Jared IveyEDGE Ole Miss

177. Shaun DolacLB Buffalo

206. Alex MastromannoP Florida S

 

Draft won't fall perfectly for us like this, but this mock did.  

[boyst]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

or much more cheaply in free agency than the type of player you target day 1

This ^ + this v

27 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

So if Buffalo is #4 in defense on 1st and 2nd down, but 29th on 3rd down, wouldn't you think it has to be DB, Safety, or DE in the first round?

= The importance of getting a top tier CB

 

I have knee jerk reactions on this because of Elam but if we had got McDuffie or Gardener (who's so overrated) it's pan out. We need to hit on a premium position and find the 3rd down 1 technique player in FA or later. 

[Bigvinny]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

19 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

I’d love to trade a 4th for Jameson Williams. He fits exactly what we need and hopefully his maturity issues are behind him

Agreed. Well worth the risk. Although I’m sure they are asking for more than a 4th