The Jokeman Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I mentioned this the other day: I simply do not understand the fixation with the ‘missing’ 3rd Round Pick. We have TWO 2nd Rounders! So in essence we already moved up. I guess some people would prefer we trade pick so we can get a 3rd? Not me! Big gap from 62 and 109, could lose out on a talented player. 1 Quote
Turbo44 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 17 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Big gap from 62 and 109, could lose out on a talented player. One option for Beane is he has 4 picks around 175 in the 5th. He can take one or two of those along with 109 and move up into the 3rd. With 10 picks currently, we Don’t have 20 open spots 1 Quote
DJB Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Thank goodness. All for a QB wanting help but let the scouts make this call please Josh. You suck at it 1 3 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I think people should really listen to Beanes presser. Beane usually is very honest to media and he’s not blowing smoke. The Bills just don’t value drafting a 2 down 1T high in the draft unless they have good pass rush skills. It’s also been shown in their history of drafting by only selecting one NT in their tenure(Harrison Phillips). Whether they think Grant can be that guy is tbd but guys like Alfred Collins I do not expect them to target 2 1 Quote
Dan in Owego Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Still got a crush on Landon Jackson, so much raw potential and i think he would really excel if you slid him out a little wider than we typically saw with the Razorbacks. Just don't think he makes it past the Lions pick. Could see a trade up if Will Johnson tumbles into the 20's, but ultimately i feel the pick will be at 30 and i'm thinking Trey Amos. 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: Still got a crush on Landon Jackson, so much raw potential and i think he would really excel if you slid him out a little wider than we typically saw with the Razorbacks. Just don't think he makes it past the Lions pick. Could see a trade up if Will Johnson tumbles into the 20's, but ultimately i feel the pick will be at 30 and i'm thinking Trey Amos. Jackson feels like a Billsy pick. And I like him. But I read a bio that compared him to AJ Epenesa. AJ is ok, but I think we need more. But this regime has types they target so it makes sense that he would be a guy they like. Second round feels more appropriate imo, but projections are all over the place. Edited 9 hours ago by MrEpsYtown Quote
DJB Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) https://www.buffalobills.com/news/why-bills-gm-brandon-beane-feels-good-ahead-of-thursday-s-draft-and-shares-which-position-group-is-the-strongest Assessing the strongest position groups in the 2025 NFL Draft Beane was asked about which position group is the strongest in this year's draft and he answered defense is where it's at. Defensive line to be exact. "I would say it's a pretty good D-line draft," Beane said. Buffalo's GM shared you can find a variety of flavors at the defensive line position in this year's draft. "The guys that are getting paid big, big money, are the ones that can win when they get their one-on-one rush opportunities, and the second part of that is get the quarterback down," Beane explained. "More and more quarterbacks like ours are mobile. There's not as many statues. So, it's made it harder for some of these d-linemen that maybe are good rushers, but then they get to the top of the rush, and they don't change direction well…you always have two parts to that rusher. Can he beat the, let's just say it's d-tackle, can he beat the guard or the center? And then secondly, once he wins, can he get that quarterback down, especially the mobile guys." In discussing value of players when looking at how Buffalo rotates their defensive line but not their secondary, Beane said there's benefits to having talent at both positions. "If you've got a guy who can play man, can play zone, has speed, tackle, and turns the ball over, that could be more valuable than a lot of defensive tackles, especially a two-down player who is more of a run player than a pass rusher," Beane explained. "So, I think you would truly have to discuss, player vs. player, where is the most value? We had Josh Norman in Carolina, even Tre'Davious (White) here when he was rolling, and we paid him as a No. 1 guy. We could match up Tre'Davious on a team, you know what I'm saying? He would be more valuable than a number of defensive tackles. Probably not more valuable than Aaron Donald. No disrespect to him. Just using those comparisons." So unless we love Harmon or Nolen I’d say there is a very very good chance we are going corner round 1. Edited 3 hours ago by DJB 3 Quote
Dan in Owego Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Jackson feels like a Billsy pick. And I like him. But I read a bio that compared him to AJ Epenesa. AJ is ok, but I think we need more. But this regime has types they target so it makes sense that he would be a guy they like. Second round feels more appropriate imo, but projections are all over the place. If you took all of Epenesas best tape and squinted real hard i could see it, Thursday night is going to break a lot of boards should be a lot of fun👍 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago From Ourlad’s scouting service: “Red flag medicals are likely to bump down defensive tackles Deone Walker and Derrick Harmon along with offensive lineman Donovan Jackson and edge defender Nic Scourton, among others. “ They also think Kenneth Grant will go in the top 15. 1 Quote
DJB Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) I can definitely see Landon Jackson as our pick at 30. I think the Bills love him. Edited 1 hour ago by DJB 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, DJB said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/why-bills-gm-brandon-beane-feels-good-ahead-of-thursday-s-draft-and-shares-which-position-group-is-the-strongest Assessing the strongest position groups in the 2025 NFL Draft Beane was asked about which position group is the strongest in this year's draft and he answered defense is where it's at. Defensive line to be exact. "I would say it's a pretty good D-line draft," Beane said. Buffalo's GM shared you can find a variety of flavors at the defensive line position in this year's draft. "The guys that are getting paid big, big money, are the ones that can win when they get their one-on-one rush opportunities, and the second part of that is get the quarterback down," Beane explained. "More and more quarterbacks like ours are mobile. There's not as many statues. So, it's made it harder for some of these d-linemen that maybe are good rushers, but then they get to the top of the rush, and they don't change direction well…you always have two parts to that rusher. Can he beat the, let's just say it's d-tackle, can he beat the guard or the center? And then secondly, once he wins, can he get that quarterback down, especially the mobile guys." In discussing value of players when looking at how Buffalo rotates their defensive line but not their secondary, Beane said there's benefits to having talent at both positions. "If you've got a guy who can play man, can play zone, has speed, tackle, and turns the ball over, that could be more valuable than a lot of defensive tackles, especially a two-down player who is more of a run player than a pass rusher," Beane explained. "So, I think you would truly have to discuss, player vs. player, where is the most value? We had Josh Norman in Carolina, even Tre'Davious (White) here when he was rolling, and we paid him as a No. 1 guy. We could match up Tre'Davious on a team, you know what I'm saying? He would be more valuable than a number of defensive tackles. Probably not more valuable than Aaron Donald. No disrespect to him. Just using those comparisons." So unless we love Harmon or Nolen I’d say there is a very very good chance we are going corner round 1. For that draft pick to have that impact, you have to start and play him. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, DJB said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/why-bills-gm-brandon-beane-feels-good-ahead-of-thursday-s-draft-and-shares-which-position-group-is-the-strongest Assessing the strongest position groups in the 2025 NFL Draft Beane was asked about which position group is the strongest in this year's draft and he answered defense is where it's at. Defensive line to be exact. "I would say it's a pretty good D-line draft," Beane said. Buffalo's GM shared you can find a variety of flavors at the defensive line position in this year's draft. "The guys that are getting paid big, big money, are the ones that can win when they get their one-on-one rush opportunities, and the second part of that is get the quarterback down," Beane explained. "More and more quarterbacks like ours are mobile. There's not as many statues. So, it's made it harder for some of these d-linemen that maybe are good rushers, but then they get to the top of the rush, and they don't change direction well…you always have two parts to that rusher. Can he beat the, let's just say it's d-tackle, can he beat the guard or the center? And then secondly, once he wins, can he get that quarterback down, especially the mobile guys." In discussing value of players when looking at how Buffalo rotates their defensive line but not their secondary, Beane said there's benefits to having talent at both positions. "If you've got a guy who can play man, can play zone, has speed, tackle, and turns the ball over, that could be more valuable than a lot of defensive tackles, especially a two-down player who is more of a run player than a pass rusher," Beane explained. "So, I think you would truly have to discuss, player vs. player, where is the most value? We had Josh Norman in Carolina, even Tre'Davious (White) here when he was rolling, and we paid him as a No. 1 guy. We could match up Tre'Davious on a team, you know what I'm saying? He would be more valuable than a number of defensive tackles. Probably not more valuable than Aaron Donald. No disrespect to him. Just using those comparisons." So unless we love Harmon or Nolen I’d say there is a very very good chance we are going corner round 1. Yup, these are a couple of quotes. He also mentions 2 down DTs not being drafted as high because of this Quote
Dan in Owego Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 15 minutes ago, DJB said: I can definitely see Landon Jackson as our pick at 30. I think the Bills love him. Fly in the ointment is Detroit, i could see them or even the Commanders grabbing him first. At any rate just one day left to see how wrong i am lol. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: From Ourlad’s scouting service: “Red flag medicals are likely to bump down defensive tackles Deone Walker and Derrick Harmon along with offensive lineman Donovan Jackson and edge defender Nic Scourton, among others. “ They also think Kenneth Grant will go in the top 15. I am seeing Grant creeping up in a lot of mocks and Harmon falling a bit. Quote
nosejob Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 hours ago, Dan in Owego said: Still got a crush on Landon Jackson, so much raw potential and i think he would really excel if you slid him out a little wider than we typically saw with the Razorbacks. Just don't think he makes it past the Lions pick. Could see a trade up if Will Johnson tumbles into the 20's, but ultimately i feel the pick will be at 30 and i'm thinking Trey Amos. Detroit may also be looking for DT. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago 2 hours ago, DJB said: "If you've got a guy who can play man, can play zone, has speed, tackle, and turns the ball over, that could be more valuable than a lot of defensive tackles, especially a two-down player who is more of a run player than a pass rusher," Beane explained. "So, I think you would truly have to discuss, player vs. player, where is the most value? We had Josh Norman in Carolina, even Tre'Davious (White) here when he was rolling, and we paid him as a No. 1 guy. We could match up Tre'Davious on a team, you know what I'm saying? He would be more valuable than a number of defensive tackles. Probably not more valuable than Aaron Donald. No disrespect to him. Just using those comparisons." So unless we love Harmon or Nolen I’d say there is a very very good chance we are going corner round 1. Yeah, that entire bolded section is explaining Trey Amos exactly. He's fast, can play zone and man, tackles, and gets turnovers. He's a very clean prospect and projection. Quote
NeverOutNick Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago Where is the list of all the draft visits here? Quote
One Buffalo Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago (edited) Just 12 first round grades (for those who don't want to click to view) Edited 52 minutes ago by One Buffalo 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Where is the list of all the draft visits here? 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago (edited) 12 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: This draft has been a bit maligned due to the prevailing belief that there are fewer true 1st Round prospects than usual. The numbers seem to be 12 to 16 players in this tier. That said, there is also a belief that this draft is heavy with Top 60 players... in other words there are more than 60 players worth a 2nd round grade. Thus, the desire for a 3rd Rounder stems from wanting the Bills to be able to draft 4 players who could conceivably be immediate contributors and eventual starters. Thanks….but I think that’s a bit in crystal ball territory. Nobody knows THAT much about the eventual quality of this or any other draft class. I’m actually thrilled the Bills are sitting right where they are with three picks in the first two rounds. That’s amazingly good for a team that’s drafting in the slot we are (having been a play away from the Super Bowl), and desperately needing to stock the proverbial shelves with young, cheaper talent. Add to that the fact that we then get a round off to exhale, see where things stand, and load up on lots of depth, and I’m loving where we sit. Now….let’s ALL pray that Beane doesn’t get too cute and simply goes and gets THREE quality young starters! GO BILLS Edited 47 minutes ago by SoCal Deek Quote
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