GunnerBill Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 9 hours ago, DJB said: Interesting. Nohl Williams's zone numbers are better and his man numbers worse than I'd have guessed off the games of his I've watched. He is my CB10 after the normal nine names have gone. Might bring him into my thinking at the bottom of the 2nd. 7 hours ago, Dr. Who said: If Grant or Harmon are there at 30 (unlikely), I'm taking them and trading up from 56 for a corner. I'd consider Harmon. He'd be tough for me to pass on. I'd take Amos or Hariston over Grant. Quote
sirebors Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Interesting. Nohl Williams's zone numbers are better and his man numbers worse than I'd have guessed off the games of his I've watched. He is my CB10 after the normal nine names have gone. Might bring him into my thinking at the bottom of the 2nd. I'd consider Harmon. He'd be tough for me to pass on. I'd take Amos or Hariston over Grant. What exactly do those abbreviations stand for...? YSNP ? FI% ? RTG? I'm assuming RTG is rating... Quote
GunnerBill Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 17 minutes ago, sirebors said: What exactly do those abbreviations stand for...? YSNP ? FI% ? RTG? I'm assuming RTG is rating... Yea RTG is passer rating when targeted I believe and YSNP is Yards per snap (so total yards given up divided by snaps played in man or zone) and FI% is forced incompletion percentage. 2 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 12 hours ago, DJB said: I understand it’s a deep DT draft with guys like T Williams, Farmer, A Collins etc all available in round 2. But I want a difference maker at that position. Someone teams need to plan for . That’s why I want Nolen, Harmon or even Grant round 1. Move up to get one of those quality corners in round 2 if need be. Unless one of Barron , or W Johnson slip in round 1, why take an inferior corner prospect in Revel, Amos when you could take one of those 3 DT’s and still grab Morrison or maybe Hairston etc round 2 Make it make sense for me When draftniks say these DTs are available in Round 2 it doesn't necessarily mean late Round 2 where we draft. That's why I take a guy like Tyleik Williams at pick 30 that on average grades as the 38th best guy in the draft per https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tyleik-Williams-DT-OhioState. As to me he fits a serious need and to me the ranking between 25-40 (87.4 vs 87.0) is usually minuscule when talking about BPA. Sure other DTs might fall to us at the end of Round 2 but IMO few of them fit in as run blocking NT/1 Tech that we are looking for. Again trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Not wisest of things to do IMO. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Lance Zuerlin isn't a fan of his at all. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-watkins/32005741-5423-4962-f2e3-76ea93ee38ef Quote
Low Positive Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Lance Zuerlin isn't a fan of his at all. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-watkins/32005741-5423-4962-f2e3-76ea93ee38ef Here's what he thought of Puka Nacua https://www.nfl.com/prospects/puka-nacua/32004e41-4355-9347-35af-af88fcaf7ee9 Edited 13 hours ago by Low Positive Puka with a K Quote
FireChans Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Here's what he thought of Puka Nacua https://www.nfl.com/prospects/puka-nacua/32004e41-4355-9347-35af-af88fcaf7ee9 Puka went in the fifth round. Everyone was wrong about him. 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Not entirely Bills related but this seems like a really stupid thing to say. 2 1 1 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Not entirely Bills related but this seems like a really stupid thing to say. It’s also a dumbass lie to. I’m not gonna play unless I can do both sides and not make professional money. Sure sure Travis 1 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: There are some that are talking he could go in round 3 so I’m guessing Buffalo would possibly target after traded or at 109 Quote
DJB Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago I have a concern with Amos and that is a lack of production. 4 INT’s over a 5 year collegiate career is not great for a guy who is supposed to be a round 1 guy. That scares me On the flip side , you have Morrison who has missed a bunch of time due to injuries has, but had 9 INT’s in 3 seasons . 1 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I won’t be too surprised if they he Bills reach a bit for him in round 2 if all the top CBs are gone (like in our Mock 2.0). I’m not saying that they should do that, but it seems like a possibility given their desperation for a corner. 1 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 12 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I won’t be too surprised if they he Bills reach a bit for him in round 2 if all the top CBs are gone (like in our Mock 2.0). I’m not saying that they should do that, but it seems like a possibility given their desperation for a corner. This wouldn't be surprising to me knowing Beane's past but I think moving down from 62 into the 3rd round is a strong possibility and that is where your seeing some of these guys visiting that are likely to go in round 3. 1 Quote
nosejob Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Interesting. Nohl Williams's zone numbers are better and his man numbers worse than I'd have guessed off the games of his I've watched. He is my CB10 after the normal nine names have gone. Might bring him into my thinking at the bottom of the 2nd. I'd consider Harmon. He'd be tough for me to pass on. I'd take Amos or Hariston over Grant. While he's capable of blitzing and contributing against the run, his tackling leaves much to be desired, and he tends to shy away from contact at times. His lack of physicality when tackling could limit his effectiveness in specific defensive schemes that require corners to play a more aggressive role against the run. ( Bleacher Report) Edited 11 hours ago by nosejob 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, nosejob said: While he's capable of blitzing and contributing against the run, his tackling leaves much to be desired, and he tends to shy away from contact at times. His lack of physicality when tackling could limit his effectiveness in specific defensive schemes that require corners to play a more aggressive role against the run. ( Bleacher Report) For sure, he isn't the best tackler in the run game. But the Bills need to defend the pass better. Grant doesn't help us there. Hariston does. 1 Quote
LEBills Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 8 minutes ago, nosejob said: While he's capable of blitzing and contributing against the run, his tackling leaves much to be desired, and he tends to shy away from contact at times. His lack of physicality when tackling could limit his effectiveness in specific defensive schemes that require corners to play a more aggressive role against the run. I think Hairston shoulder injury held back his tackling this year. He was much more involved in 2023. Though a 180 pound corner who is tentative due to injuries is it’s own can of worms. 3 Quote
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