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10 minutes ago, mannc said:

What are you talking about?  Seems incoherent…

He means trade the 2026 Bills' first and 62 for someone's second round pick that is earlier than 62 and also their 2025 third round pick. You end up with Nolen at 30, Collins and Porter with your second round picks, and Thornton with the newly acquired third round pick.

 

It's not incoherent, but it is irresponsible. 

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

He means trade the 2026 Bills' first and 62 for someone's second round pick that is earlier than 62 and also their 2025 third round pick. You end up with Nolen at 30, Collins and Porter with your second round picks, and Thornton with the newly acquired third round pick.

 

It's not incoherent, but it is irresponsible. 

Thanks.  I couldn’t understand what he was even proposing..

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12 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

#30 and our top 2nd gets us to Seattle's pick if they are willing to trade.  

 

I don't think it's worth it.  We need to hit on our top 3 picks and maybe find a way to trade into the 3rd and hit on that.

Our 2026 1st to Seattle should get us from 62 to 52 and get us 82. They have 50/52 and 82/92. They're really only giving up a 3rd and they'll have 2 1sts next year in case Darnold doesn't cut it.  Obviously we keep pick 30. Win win

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5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

I'm an UGA fan. This fella has the swiftness of Hermes and stone hands. I don't think that's fixable, really. If you can do a hand transplant, yes, he could be a steal.

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2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I'm an UGA fan. This fella has the swiftness of Hermes and stone hands. I don't think that's fixable, really. If you can do a hand transplant, yes, he could be a steal.

Amari Cooper doesn’t look to be using his this season, so….

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8 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

This is 7 years of Brandon Beane, with #8 coming up. He is outperforming the league averages, and no reason to believe he won’t do it again this year. 

 

If we’re realistic with ourselves, there are guys below that can find their way into the “Solid Starter” category too. Kincaid, Coleman, Bishop, Williams, R. Davis, Solomon, Van Pran-Granger and Grable all have a realistic shot. 

 


66% (50%) in RD1 (4/6)

 

Allen, Edmunds, Oliver, Rousseau

Elam, Kincaid

 

43% (33%) in RD2 (3/7)

 

Epenesa, Cook, Torrence

Ford, Basham, Coleman, Bishop

 

38% (19%) in RD3 (3/8)

 

Phillips, Brown, Bernard

Singletary, Knox, Moss, Williams, Carter

 

66% (8%) in RD4 (2/3)

 

G. Davis, Johnson

R. Davis 

 

20% (4%) in RD5 (2/10)

 

Teller, Shakir

Neal, Joseph, Fromm, Doyle, Shorter, Ulofoshio, Solomon, Van Pran-Granger

 

27% (2%) in RD6 (3/11)

 

Benford, Hamlin, Bass
Grable, Hardy, Tenuta, Stevenson, Wildgoose, Hodgins, Johnson, McCloud

 

11% (1.5%) in RD 7 (1/9) 

 

Jackson
Proehl, Sweeney, Johnson, Anderson, Spector, Austin, Broeker, Clayton

 

@Deadstroke can you tell me what you disliked about them post? Curious what perspective you have to share

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8 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

This is 7 years of Brandon Beane, with #8 coming up. He is outperforming the league averages, and no reason to believe he won’t do it again this year. 

 

If we’re realistic with ourselves, there are guys below that can find their way into the “Solid Starter” category too. Kincaid, Coleman, Bishop, Williams, R. Davis, Solomon, Van Pran-Granger and Grable all have a realistic shot. 

 


66% (50%) in RD1 (4/6)

 

Allen, Edmunds, Oliver, Rousseau

Elam, Kincaid

 

43% (33%) in RD2 (3/7)

 

Epenesa, Cook, Torrence

Ford, Basham, Coleman, Bishop

 

38% (19%) in RD3 (3/8)

 

Phillips, Brown, Bernard

Singletary, Knox, Moss, Williams, Carter

 

66% (8%) in RD4 (2/3)

 

G. Davis, Johnson

R. Davis 

 

20% (4%) in RD5 (2/10)

 

Teller, Shakir

Neal, Joseph, Fromm, Doyle, Shorter, Ulofoshio, Solomon, Van Pran-Granger

 

27% (2%) in RD6 (3/11)

 

Benford, Hamlin, Bass
Grable, Hardy, Tenuta, Stevenson, Wildgoose, Hodgins, Johnson, McCloud

 

11% (1.5%) in RD 7 (1/9) 

 

Jackson
Proehl, Sweeney, Johnson, Anderson, Spector, Austin, Broeker, Clayton

 

Round 1  - Kincaid will be a multi-year starter

Round 2 - likely to me that at least 1 of Coleman and Bishop end up starters for 2 or more years.

Round 3 - Singletary and Knox would count as multi-year starters

 

i agree that Beane has done well and I think the stats will look even better than you stated.

5 hours ago, nosejob said:

Our 2026 1st to Seattle should get us from 62 to 52 and get us 82. They have 50/52 and 82/92. They're really only giving up a 3rd and they'll have 2 1sts next year in case Darnold doesn't cut it.  Obviously we keep pick 30. Win win

Trading future picks for current year picks at a full round discount is not good business unless you are absolutely sure that the guy you get this year is going to be very good.  That’s only my opinion, but it is basically buying on credit with steep interest.  

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3 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I'm an UGA fan. This fella has the swiftness of Hermes and stone hands. I don't think that's fixable, really. If you can do a hand transplant, yes, he could be a steal.

Dawson Knox did a pretty good job on that.

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3 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

If you can do a hand transplant, yes, he could be a steal.

 

1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Amari Cooper doesn’t look to be using his this season, so….


Don’t forget, Amari had that wrist injury so the Bills would want to check that out before making any decisions on remedial surgery.

 

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1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Round 1  - Kincaid will be a multi-year starter

Round 2 - likely to me that at least 1 of Coleman and Bishop end up starters for 2 or more years.

Round 3 - Singletary and Knox would count as multi-year starters

 

i agree that Beane has done well and I think the stats will look even better than you stated.

Trading future picks for current year picks at a full round discount is not good business unless you are absolutely sure that the guy you get this year is going to be very good.  That’s only my opinion, but it is basically buying on credit with steep interest.  

Or...you can wait til Josh gets over 30. That's bad business.

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Is Alfred Collin’s a first round talent and would the Bills consider him at 30 if he’s there?

 

I know he’s already 24, but he is a physically imposing player who moves well for his size.

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7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Joe Marino’s DT, Corner and Edge breakdowns were pretty interesting and he kind of clearly points out which guys make sense from a Bills perspective. I highly recommend. 

I like Cosells breakdown of the DT's

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15 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Round 1  - Kincaid will be a multi-year starter

Round 2 - likely to me that at least 1 of Coleman and Bishop end up starters for 2 or more years.

Round 3 - Singletary and Knox would count as multi-year starters

 

i agree that Beane has done well and I think the stats will look even better than you stated.

Trading future picks for current year picks at a full round discount is not good business unless you are absolutely sure that the guy you get this year is going to be very good.  That’s only my opinion, but it is basically buying on credit with steep interest.  

Bobby Beathard did that every year as a matter of policy when he was the San Deigo GM. Didn't get him very far. 

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Couple of interesting things about the corners Marino mentioned...

 

He seems to like Amos a bunch. Amos seems like the high floor guy. He's plug and play with a strong zone acumen. He also appears to like Hairston. He mentioned Hairston's 2023 tape was better as he had a shoulder injury in 2024. Those two guys seem like the best fits for us, however, I don't think either will be there in round two.

 

Shavon Revel is also a great fit. His issue is that ACL. At the very least you have to assume he will be slow to start in camp and that likely hurts his chances of stepping in right away. But the upside is really big honestly. I like this player, I just am not sure they go down this road. 

 

Thomas is a crazy physical freak. He's only 20, a bit raw and a man press corner who struggles in zone. Sounds familiar to me. But he certainly has the physical traits and length the Bills look for. 

 

Porter is a crazy athlete with length, but he doesn't have a ton of experience as a corner and he is also 24 years old, same age as Christian Benford. The age thing doesn't bother me as much, but it is an interesting thought to take a guy who is raw and inexperienced and older. 

 

Marino also really liked Parrish from Kansas State. He's just small. 

 

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19 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

 

If the Bills are looking for a late round flyer I can see a guy like Smith being appealing. 

But I'd much rather see them get a little aggressive and secure a spot, even if it's in the late 3rd, to land Dont'e Thornton. I think Thornton may bust out with 90% of the NFL teams. Especially teams who have bigger WR needs and try to throw him out there as their starting X from Day one... But in Buffalo, given an "everybody eats" role... I think there could be something really nice there... B-)

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3 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

If the Bills are looking for a late round flyer I can see a guy like Smith being appealing. 

But I'd much rather see them get a little aggressive and secure a spot, even if it's in the late 3rd, to land Dont'e Thornton. I think Thornton may bust out with 90% of the NFL teams. Especially teams who have bigger WR needs and try to throw him out there as their starting X from Day one... But in Buffalo, given an "everybody eats" role... I think there could be something really nice there... B-)

 

Agree on Thornton for sure.   6'5  200  runs a 4.3  and is immediate vertical speed threat in this offense 

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2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Agree on Thornton for sure.   6'5  200  runs a 4.3  and is immediate vertical speed threat in this offense 

 

Even though Thornton is going to come in raw with a lot to learn, he's still light years ahead of a lot of these day 3 guys because there is a physical element to his game, and he knows how to set up CB's who overplay his speed. And that speed is VERY real on the football field. I think it's always important to remember we have 17... And 17 could make a guy like Thornton famous while more than half the other QB's in the league will have him buried on the Practice Squad...

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