Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[boyst]

10 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

 

I think Jairus Byrd.

as noted byrd wasn't traded

[finn]

9 hours ago, wppete said:

I really like Revel. Then go DT in the 2nd and 4th round. 

Beane doesn't take chances on injured players in the draft, or at least I can't recall him ever doing so. For example, he passed on the highly rated Trey Smith, who fell to the sixth round because of health concerns. Smith of course was chosen by KC and went to the Pro Bowl last year. I would be both thrilled and surprised if he picked Revel. 

Edited 13 hours ago by finn

[GunnerBill]

21 hours ago, DJB said:

 

 

 

Remember when Doug Whaley drafted Kevon Seymour and thought he had a gem because the Bills had noticed a vision issue everyone else had missed and they were gonna fix it and then he was gonna breakout? Yea. Good times. 

 

On a more serious note the medicals are the thing with Revel. If he clears he absolutely is in play at #30. He is my CB4 by film and a borderline 1st/2nd grade. 

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

as noted byrd wasn't traded

I don’t think the other two guys were either so mute point.

[Royale with Cheese]

53 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

I don’t think the other two guys were either so mute point.

Its moo point.  You know, like a cows opinion.  It doesn’t really matter.

[RichStadiumGuy]

34 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Its moo point.  You know, like a cows opinion.  It doesn’t really matter.

You're both wrong... it's MOOT point. Let Google be your friend... look it up.

[Cash]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Remember when Doug Whaley drafted Kevon Seymour and thought he had a gem because the Bills had noticed a vision issue everyone else had missed and they were gonna fix it and then he was gonna breakout? Yea. Good times. 

 

On a more serious note the medicals are the thing with Revel. If he clears he absolutely is in play at #30. He is my CB4 by film and a borderline 1st/2nd grade. 

 

I completely forgot about that!  Of note, Seymour is actually still in the league.  Per wikipedia, he was on the Commandoes last year, and signed a 1-year $3M deal to re-up for 2025.

[Royale with Cheese]

57 minutes ago, RichStadiumGuy said:

You're both wrong... it's MOOT point. Let Google be your friend... look it up.

 

I like my definition better.

[finn]

On 4/3/2025 at 10:52 AM, DJB said:

 

 

Anyone remember JD Williams? He was supposed to be the missing piece of the Kelly-era Bills, a fast cornerback who would pair with Nate Clements to lock down the secondary. A bust. Speculation was that his vision was off, like Ravel. If the sheer desire of the fan base for him to succeed counted for anything, he would have been an All-Pro. 

[MrEpsYtown]

My problem with Revel is he is coming off a torn ACL. As currently constructed we need a guy who can come in a start day 1 and that's not really him. So I think I am out on him.

 

It seems like the plug-and-play guys with zone acumen who will likely be available at the Bills pick are Hairston and Amos. I suppose the question is are you getting value taking them at 30? Who knows? 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

1 hour ago, Cash said:

 

I completely forgot about that!  Of note, Seymour is actually still in the league.  Per wikipedia, he was on the Commandoes last year, and signed a 1-year $3M deal to re-up for 2025.

 

Sound like it was a good pick then. 6th round pick in 2016 still in the league? that's a hit

[The Jokeman]

49 minutes ago, finn said:

Anyone remember JD Williams? He was supposed to be the missing piece of the Kelly-era Bills, a fast cornerback who would pair with Nate Clements to lock down the secondary. A bust. Speculation was that his vision was off, like Ravel. If the sheer desire of the fan base for him to succeed counted for anything, he would have been an All-Pro. 

JD was drafted 11 years before Nate Clements so not sure how they'd play together unless you meant Nate Odomes 😏

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, RichStadiumGuy said:

You're both wrong... it's MOOT point. Let Google be your friend... look it up.

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

My problem with Revel is he is coming off a torn ACL. As currently constructed we need a guy who can come in a start day 1 and that's not really him. So I think I am out on him.

 

I hope this isn't Beane's mindset though. We aren't drafting a 1st round player for day one, it's for the next 5 years and hopefully beyond. Revel usually would be a top 20ish player that we have the opportunity to draft at 30 only because of the ACL. So that is a risk I'd be very willing to take, even knowing that he might not be able to start until the middle of the season. If it was like Benjamin Morrison's injury I'd be more concerned but recovery from ACLs for young players is pretty clean these days and there is low risk of re-injury. JMO

[MrEpsYtown]

32 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I hope this isn't Beane's mindset though. We aren't drafting a 1st round player for day one, it's for the next 5 years and hopefully beyond. Revel usually would be a top 20ish player that we have the opportunity to draft at 30 only because of the ACL. So that is a risk I'd be very willing to take, even knowing that he might not be able to start until the middle of the season. If it was like Benjamin Morrison's injury I'd be more concerned but recovery from ACLs for young players is pretty clean these days and there is low risk of re-injury. JMO

 

I agree! But I think that with a championship-caliber team here and 1 starting corner on the roster, that is a tough risk to take. If they signed a guy like Asante Samuel or even a Gilmore type to a 1 year deal and drafted Revel to be the replacement next year, then I think it makes a ton of sense. 

[MR8]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Its moo point.  You know, like a cows opinion.  It doesn’t really matter.

Love me some friends references!

[HappyDays]

This is usually around the time I would create the NFL draft rumors thread. This year I'll just use this thread though.

 

Here are a few that I consider relevant to the Bills from ESPN insiders:

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/insider/story/_/id/44507247/2025-nfl-draft-latest-buzz-rumors-news-hunter-trades-mocks-sleepers

 

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The lack of true first-round grades in this class is notable. On average, most teams usually have 15 to 20 prospects who are considered true first-round talents. Two high-level NFL executives told me this week that neither of their teams reached that number. What does that mean? Expect to hear unlikely names in Round 1. Because of the lack of high-end talent, many teams are equating the quality of players in the middle of the first round to prospects in the middle of Round 2.

 

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After speaking with multiple scouts this week, Boston College edge rusher Donovan Ezeiruaku is a player teams are hot after in this loaded edge rusher group. He had a breakout senior season with the second-most sacks in the FBS (16.5), and he followed that up with a standout Senior Bowl performance. Viewed as an early Day 2 prospect in January, Ezeiruaku could now be picked as high as No. 15 to the Falcons or No. 18 to the Seahawks.

 

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Everybody sees a different level of value in pro days, but it's important to remember these workouts might be the only live exposure evaluators get with top prospects. Coaches and general managers simply can't go to as many (or any) games during the season, while more and more prospects opt out of on-field work at the combine. One pro day that was incredible, per multiple scouts in attendance, was the one for Ole Miss defensive tackle Walter Nolen. He did not work out at the combine, but he showed how special he is in Oxford.

 

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We've talked at length about the wide draft range of players in this class, and injuries are becoming a prominent influence on rankings near the top of the board. Notable injuries include: Alabama linebacker Jihaad Campbell (shoulder), Ohio State left tackle Josh Simmons (patellar tendon), East Carolina cornerback Shavon Revel Jr. (ACL) and Notre Dame cornerback Benjamin Morrison (hip). I think Campbell, Simmons and Revel are first-round locks at full strength, but scouts are having a harder time specifying a precise range because of their health concerns.

 

[BillsFanForever19]

43 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

This is usually around the time I would create the NFL draft rumors thread. This year I'll just use this thread though.

 

Here are a few that I consider relevant to the Bills from ESPN insiders:

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/insider/story/_/id/44507247/2025-nfl-draft-latest-buzz-rumors-news-hunter-trades-mocks-sleepers

 

Shavon Revel Jr.'s ACL tear makes for an interesting situation.

 

He tore it on 9/18/24. Which would make Week 1 just about 1 full year from injury. So he should be ready to play by then. But will he be able to do anything in Training Camp or the Pre-Season? And would McDermott start a Rookie who hasn't played Football in a year and is making the leap from College to the Pro's on top of that - especially if he's limited or a no go in the Offseason?

 

I think talent wise, if he were to fall to 30 or within striking range - you have to heavily consider him the pick. Though I do worry about McDermott's conservative nature when it comes to his contributions in Year 1. I'd say start Dane Jackson for a little while, easing Revel in and replacing Jackson as soon as possible. But as we saw with Bishop's injury last year and Hamlin starting in his place - I could see a scenario where if he started Jackson it would just be Jackson's job all year with a focus on Revel in Year 2. 

[Bill from NYC]

52 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

This is usually around the time I would create the NFL draft rumors thread. This year I'll just use this thread though.

 

Here are a few that I consider relevant to the Bills from ESPN insiders:

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/insider/story/_/id/44507247/2025-nfl-draft-latest-buzz-rumors-news-hunter-trades-mocks-sleepers

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know how others feel but I cannot remember a draft class that I thought was weaker than this one, and I'm not sure why. 

 

NIL? Transfer Portal? I don't have an answer.

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I don't know how others feel but I cannot remember a draft class that I thought was weaker than this one, and I'm not sure why. 

 

NIL? Transfer Portal? I don't have an answer.

It's not only weak, but also boring. It's weak at the fun positions like QB and WR, and stronger at the positions that are less fun like DB and DT. The best players in this draft are likely to be an undersized EDGE and a two-way player that will primarily play DB at the NFL level. Hense the lower level of intensity to these pre-draft weeks.