Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[turbo044]

13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

If it's true that he's anywhere *near* Jermaine Burton territory, he won't be a Buffalo Bill. And I'd expect him to fall to Day 3.

 

Bond was looked at as a mid to late 2nd Round Prospect without any character concerns. Burton fell to one of the last picks on Day 2 and was a better on field prospect than Bond.

 

I hope that isn't true because I saw him as a good fit both for what he'd bring and where i'd expect him to be Drafted.

wow - didn't see anything about this with Bond.  Thornton Jr is a better lottery tickets anyway - 6'5" 215 with a 4.3 time.  Not sure why Tennessee didn't utilize him more;  Maybe bad QB's or running philosophy??  Cuz the film I've seen on him, he plays fast.  Wish we had a 3rd, cuz I think the 2nd round is too early for him and he may be gone by our 4th rounder.

[TheBeaneBandit]

6 minutes ago, turbo044 said:

wow - didn't see anything about this with Bond.  Thornton Jr is a better lottery tickets anyway - 6'5" 215 with a 4.3 time.  Not sure why Tennessee didn't utilize him more;  Maybe bad QB's or running philosophy??  Cuz the film I've seen on him, he plays fast.  Wish we had a 3rd, cuz I think the 2nd round is too early for him and he may be gone by our 4th rounder.

Tennessee QB play was....rough to be sure.

[Warriorspikes51]

yea we going BIG   
 

Also note the past tense comments on DaQuan

[ColoradoBills]

12 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Also note the past tense comments on DaQuan

 

Right now, I think DQ is an insurance policy at DT1.

We'll see after the draft what happens to him.

He's 34 and may retire if the Bills tell him they have to move on.

A June 1st designation nets $5.5M which would take Beane into the season without any restructures.

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Beane found Benford in the 6th, think he can't find one with one of the 4th? I'm with @Warriorspikes51,get me Grant/Collins or the two DTs from Oregon with my first two picks. Safety or Edge with the 3rd pick. Dominant pressure on the QB is a CBs best friend 

Remember the Legion of Doom in Seattle?  Two of them,  Sherman and Chancelor, were 5th-round picks.  For others, not you, to say we can't find quality like that in later rounds is incorrect. 

 

 

51 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

yea we going BIG   
 

Also note the past tense comments on DaQuan

It sure sounds like he wants to go bigger. There are plenty of guys 310+ who can play 1 Tech and still pressure the passer.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 05:51 PM by SoonerBillsFan

[Warriorspikes51]

2 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

No no not sacrificing a second. Using one of our fourths maybe a fifth and even a 4th or 5th next year to move up higher with one of the seconds in the round to ensure you get a guy who can make a difference. I think we almost have to do this to guarantee we get the leftover position we don't go in the first round such as corner or defensive tackle to get a guy who can come in and help this year.

Once again you can only expect to get lucky in those mid rounds every few years or so. I'm not saying it can't happen, but you can't count on it either. For every Milano or Christian benford there's a four year gap or so before finding someone like that in the mid rounds again.

if we take massive DT’s early, at worst they are immediately helping us stop the run. D is better instantly. At best, they collapse pockets and wreck games. D is elite.

 

if we take a CB early….the player’s floor is MUCH lower IMO. Especially after the Elam experiment

[SoonerBillsFan]

Right now, if I am listening to McDermott and Beane, I have Jahdae Barron from Texas as my CB #1 on the board. The kid can do it all, including tackle.  Trey Amos is another one. Zy Alexander can tackle but is a little slow for me. Denzel Burke, who is out of OSU, has a 4.48 time and can also tackle.  There is plenty to choose from.

[The Jokeman]

13 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Remember the Legion of Doom in Seattle?  Two of them,  Sherman and Chancelor, were 5th-round picks.  For others, not you, to say we can't find quality like that in later rounds is incorrect. 

 

 

It sure sounds like he wants to go bigger. There are plenty of guys 310+ who can play 1 Tech and still pressure the passer.

 

 

Toss in Taron Johnson was a 4th Rounder, EJ Gaines was a 6th Rounder, Levi Wallace was undrafted. Sure it's nice to have better athletes but McDermott has shown he can coach up player's abilities, Elam was just a miss for whatever reason. To me we need a big ugly in the first. 

[OldTimer1960]

2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Beane found Benford in the 6th, think he can't find one with one of the 4th? I'm with @Warriorspikes51,get me Grant/Collins or the two DTs from Oregon with my first two picks. Safety or Edge with the 3rd pick. Dominant pressure on the QB is a CBs best friend 

I know that you understand that just because they were lucky enough to find Benford in round 6 doesn’t mean that their odds of finding another starting caliber CB aren’t better earlier in the draft.  To your point, the Bills found Kyle Williams in the 5th - should they wait until then for another DT?

 

Of course, we all wish that CB wasn’t such a dire need - that would allow them to take (insert your favorite prospect/position).

 

it is going to be very interesting to see how they balance value vs needs and how they maneuver around the board.

[HappyDays]

I don't think this was reported anywhere yet but I was told CB Shavon Revel will be one of our top 30 visits.

[SoonerBillsFan]

13 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I don't think this was reported anywhere yet but I was told CB Shavon Revel will be one of our top 30 visits.

He is a solid tackler,so I can see it.

[gonzo1105]

12 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I don't think this was reported anywhere yet but I was told CB Shavon Revel will be one of our top 30 visits.

He will be there when the Bills pick. I think they would take Amos over him but would they take Hairston over him is the question. It’s good the Bills are doing their due diligence on him 

[Coffeesforclosers]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

yea we going BIG   
 

Also note the past tense comments on DaQuan

 

I wonder if McD's scheme asks too much of a 1 Tech DT?   

 

Is he supposed to stay home, clog gaps and absorb double teams so LBs stay clean and the rest of the DL can work?  Are we looking for a Ed Oliver clone, just a bit bigger?

 

Because if he's supposed to do everything from the 1 Tech spot, eat blocks, rush the passer effectively, soak up double teams...well yeah I'd love having Warren Sapp or Haloti Ngata or Cam Heyward on the DL but those dudes don't exactly fall off the back of the truck..

 

[HappyDays]

17 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

He will be there when the Bills pick. I think they would take Amos over him but would they take Hairston over him is the question. It’s good the Bills are doing their due diligence on him 

 

Yeah makes sense to let the medical staff evaluate him if nothing else. ACL tears don't concern me too much, young players can rebound from them pretty quickly with no lingering effects other than possible mental hurdles. He apparently is a high character prospect and he has an elite length and speed combination. So he fits a lot of what this regime looks for in the 1st round. If the medicals are clean it would be a great 1st round pick IMO.

[NewEra]

16 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Hunter. He’s dead set on playing both ways. Full. I’m not doubting him. Crazy things have happened. This would be unprecedented in the Super Bowl era?

I don’t think there’s any question that he COULD play both full time.  I also don’t think there’s any question that he would be riddled with injury and his career could take a turn for the worse if he does.  Odds are that his body would break down.

[DJB]

34 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah makes sense to let the medical staff evaluate him if nothing else. ACL tears don't concern me too much, young players can rebound from them pretty quickly with no lingering effects other than possible mental hurdles. He apparently is a high character prospect and he has an elite length and speed combination. So he fits a lot of what this regime looks for in the 1st round. If the medicals are clean it would be a great 1st round pick IMO.

If he was healthy he would likely go around pick 20. Talented kid 

[KOKBILLS]

3 hours ago, turbo044 said:

wow - didn't see anything about this with Bond.  Thornton Jr is a better lottery tickets anyway - 6'5" 215 with a 4.3 time.  Not sure why Tennessee didn't utilize him more;  Maybe bad QB's or running philosophy??  Cuz the film I've seen on him, he plays fast.  Wish we had a 3rd, cuz I think the 2nd round is too early for him and he may be gone by our 4th rounder.

 

It was definitely more their Offensive philosophy IMHO... He led their team in receiving yards easily. They ran the ball almost twice as much as they passed it. They had a stud RB...

 

I definitely think Thornton will go by the end of Day 3... Just too much upside. It may be boom or bust... But I don't think that matters much. I just think that kid is picture perfect made for the last piece of the Bills "everybody eats" puzzle. If that is the way the Bills are going to build this WR room, and I have no reason to believe they're not, then they should do everything they can to get into position to Draft Thornton on Day 2. 

But that's just me... 

[Warriorspikes51]

18 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

It was definitely more their Offensive philosophy IMHO... He led their team in receiving yards easily. They ran the ball almost twice as much as they passed it. They had a stud RB...

 

I definitely think Thornton will go by the end of Day 3... Just too much upside. It may be boom or bust... But I don't think that matters much. I just think that kid is picture perfect made for the last piece of the Bills "everybody eats" puzzle. If that is the way the Bills are going to build this WR room, and I have no reason to believe they're not, then they should do everything they can to get into position to Draft Thornton on Day 2. 

But that's just me... 

 

Thornton would be a great pick for us.  Legit vertical threat 

[turbo044]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Thornton would be a great pick for us.  Legit vertical threat 

25+ yards per catch.  Josh would like him and he would open up everything underneath. I'd have no problem picking him with our 2nd 2nd or trading that pick back into th3 3rd

[Nihilarian]

3 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Right now, if I am listening to McDermott and Beane, I have Jahdae Barron from Texas as my CB #1 on the board. The kid can do it all, including tackle.  Trey Amos is another one. Zy Alexander can tackle but is a little slow for me. Denzel Burke, who is out of OSU, has a 4.48 time and can also tackle.  There is plenty to choose from.

Since there is no big trade or FA at CB so far, I gotta think CB in that #1 slot. Heck, I'd also think safety #2 and CB again in #3 after a trade to get a #3 pick. That Buffalo secondary is so devoid of a starting CB and backups it's scary.

 

Hopefully Von and coop come to their senses and resign with the Bills to win a SB in 2025! 🤩