HappyDays Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, LEBills said: I don’t think we will be trading up if that’s the case. Maybe a trade down? Can't remember where I saw it but one analyst said he heard trade ups this year are being discounted to 70 cents on the dollar. In other words the prospects are seen as so similar after the top 10 or so that the normal draft trade chart won't apply. If we want to trade up we can do it for cheaper than usual, if we trade back we won't get as much value. I'm of the opinion we should just stick and pick this year. Probably the best we can get in a trade back is an additional 4th which we really don't need this year. Or if someone like Harmon slides due to medicals I'd be okay using our late 4th to trade up for him. 7 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Its amazing how many “insiders” have all this secret information from teams. All of them “have been told” from teams….. its hilarious because you cant prove or disprove what they are saying. Just throwing things out there for clicks and in hopes something comes true. Its a numbers game. The Definition of “Fake News” I mean in this manner I don’t think it benefits or hurts the Bills if they did tell someone this. Everyone at 30 knows there won’t be a first round grade even in stronger years just might be highlighting how weak the top of the draft is which really isn’t breaking news 1 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 56 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I always thought trading down was the more likely scenario. When you get to this late in the first, the 1st round board is wiped out. Now even though I’m sure they have a lot more 2nd round grades, if the Bills have 12 first round grades, by the time 62 comes around their 2nd round board is very likely going to be wiped out as well. I would expect them to either trade up from 56 or 62 especially after moving down from 30 Rumor was that they had Cook as a 3rd round prospect and that’s why they made those two micro trades before taking him in that draft. On the flip side, if there are 12 players with a round 1 grade and one of them slides into the early 20s (J Barron), it may be very tempting to see what it takes to get him (Cook and a pick for instance). Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago I am surprised by how quiet everything is on the trade front which makes me think that everyone is just waiting to see who is there at about #10 and then we will see 5-6 trades before end of round. I also think that due to the lack of top end talent but lots of similar graded guys that the Bills might've be up farther than expected because the cost will be less. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: On the flip side, if there are 12 players with a round 1 grade and one of them slides into the early 20s (J Barron), it may be very tempting to see what it takes to get him (Cook and a pick for instance). The Bills to me aren’t trading Cook this year. You get one more year out of him and now they have set themselves up to Franchise tag him next year and trade him. If Barron falls to let’s say Pittsburgh who might be in the Dart/Milroe market then sure give up 62 and get back another 5th. I just think Barron won’t slide that far. 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Saw some interviews with Oladejo and dug into a little more tape. Impressed. Starting to think I really like him at #56. He's what the Bills lack in dynamism from the edge. High upside and sounds like a walking talking Process. Just personally, I find Oladejo a lot more interesting than Jackson. I like the dynamic upside. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 30 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: Wouldn't be surprised if this happens- She also reported that Minnesota is interested in trading back to recoup some draft capital since they only have 4 picks. I have seen their pick at #24 as a prime trade up spot if someone is sticking out. Our first 4th and one of our late 5ths might be enough to get it done. 2 1 Quote
BuffaloFan68 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Here's a list of some of the players that I would love to see us draft: DT - Kenneth Grant, Mich. 21 years old, 6'4", 331 lbs. CB - Darien Porter, Iowa St, 6'3", 195 lbs, 4.3 speed WR - Jayden Higgens, Iowa St, 6'4", 214 lbs, 4.3 speed S - Nick Emmanwori - S. Carolina, 21 years old, 6'3", 220 lbs. 4.38 speed These guys, along with some of our current players, would cause fits for opposing teams. Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! 2 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago All I know is this. Whoever the Bills select early will cause the majority of this board to meltdown because they wanted someone else on the board. And by day 3 people will be talking about guys selected in the 6th round that they think will legitimately start this year. Up next: People thinking every preseason cut we make will be claimed and never make it to the practice squad. 4 2 7 Quote
Mailman Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 31 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: All I know is this. Whoever the Bills select early will cause the majority of this board to meltdown because they wanted someone else on the board. And by day 3 people will be talking about guys selected in the 6th round that they think will legitimately start this year. Up next: People thinking every preseason cut we make will be claimed and never make it to the practice squad. Every year! lol 2 1 Quote
Virgil Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 49 minutes ago, BuffaloFan68 said: Here's a list of some of the players that I would love to see us draft: DT - Kenneth Grant, Mich. 21 years old, 6'4", 331 lbs. CB - Darien Porter, Iowa St, 6'3", 195 lbs, 4.3 speed WR - Jayden Higgens, Iowa St, 6'4", 214 lbs, 4.3 speed S - Nick Emmanwori - S. Carolina, 21 years old, 6'3", 220 lbs. 4.38 speed These guys, along with some of our current players, would cause fits for opposing teams. Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! I really want him on the Bills, mainly to see what McD would do with him. Also, with our injury history at Safety and LB, I think he could be a huge asset to us. However, I also thought we should go after Simmons in FA, who was a similar prospect, and we don't seem to care about him so 🤷♂️ Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, BuffaloFan68 said: Here's a list of some of the players that I would love to see us draft: DT - Kenneth Grant, Mich. 21 years old, 6'4", 331 lbs. CB - Darien Porter, Iowa St, 6'3", 195 lbs, 4.3 speed WR - Jayden Higgens, Iowa St, 6'4", 214 lbs, 4.3 speed S - Nick Emmanwori - S. Carolina, 21 years old, 6'3", 220 lbs. 4.38 speed These guys, along with some of our current players, would cause fits for opposing teams. Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! That would just about be a perfect scenario. Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 58 minutes ago, Virgil said: I really want him on the Bills, mainly to see what McD would do with him. Also, with our injury history at Safety and LB, I think he could be a huge asset to us. However, I also thought we should go after Simmons in FA, who was a similar prospect, and we don't seem to care about him so 🤷♂️ I would rather Malaki Starks. I think he would be the best option for us. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Billzgobowlin said: I would rather Malaki Starks. I think he would be the best option for us. I don’t think we end up with either but it’s the argument of getting Starks who is like trying to hit a double. You know he’s going to be solid but won’t be an all pro will make a couple pro bowls and play for 10 years. On the other hand you have Emmanwori. You’re trying to hit a home run with this pick but you could end up whiffing. It’s the Brandon Beane conundrum at its finest. If the Bills took Starks and Emmanwori turns into Polamalu then we’d chastise him for taking the good but not elite player 2 Quote
BRH Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Pete said: Sounds like the apple does not fall far from the tree Not that I necessarily believe a word of it, but I wouldn't draft either of Deion Sanders' kids, especially not Shedeur. You're always *this* far away from Dad making headlines with an opinion about how the kid is being used or paid. No thanks. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) I turn on WGR this morning and hear them discussing the possible DTs... And of course the big guy (Walker) is "too underdeveloped" in his lower body and all the 340 pounds is up high... There's always a reason not to draft the big guys... If he was 298 pounds soaking wet then he would be a "high motor, high character guy" who would fit right in and disappear on gamedays. But I repeat myself. Edited 9 hours ago by TheFunPolice 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, BRH said: Not that I necessarily believe a word of it, but I wouldn't draft either of Deion Sanders' kids, especially not Shedeur. You're always *this* far away from Dad making headlines with an opinion about how the kid is being used or paid. No thanks. I get scared of taking him because how is he going to take different coaching. His father was his HC at both stops in College at both Jackson St and Colorado and Sanders was his coach at the HS level as well. He’s never had anyone besides Deion protecting him. Id be scared to death of drafting him if I was in a large media market 1 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said: I get scared of taking him because how is he going to take different coaching. His father was his HC at both stops in College at both Jackson St and Colorado and Sanders was his coach at the HS level as well. He’s never had anyone besides Deion protecting him. Id be scared to death of drafting him if I was in a large media market IMO Deion will be his coach in the NFL one day too. Bad team drafts him, it goes so-so, they fire the HC and bring in Deion to maximize their investment. 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 37 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I don’t think we end up with either but it’s the argument of getting Starks who is like trying to hit a double. You know he’s going to be solid but won’t be an all pro will make a couple pro bowls and play for 10 years. On the other hand you have Emmanwori. You’re trying to hit a home run with this pick but you could end up whiffing. It’s the Brandon Beane conundrum at its finest. If the Bills took Starks and Emmanwori turns into Polamalu then we’d chastise him for taking the good but not elite player I understand what you’re saying, but I think I’d be satisfied with a 10 year starter who makes a few Pro Bowls. The argument that Emmanwori is more likely to be even better seems to be based purely on size-speed. We know that every year there are size speed guys who never do great things. I know it’s a philosophical discussion, but to my untrained eye, Starks is the better prospect. I also don’t think the Bills will pick either of them. Edited 8 hours ago by OldTimer1960 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago If this draft is truly void of impact players, it's best to trade down and try to get picks next year. This year's draft is very "solid" but lacking true impact players, and that is what we need on defense. Granted, we can "upgrade" the D in rounds 2-4 in this draft, but getting a true impact player... I don't see it happening this year. 1 Quote
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