Einstein's Dog Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM 17 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Our 2nd 4th rounder is enough to move from 30 to 21 points wise. To hell with losing a 2nd round pick I don't think so. According to the chart I looked at the difference between 21 and 30 is 65 points, which is a high third (or IMO J Cook). 1 Quote
Lagoon Blues Posted Tuesday at 09:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:01 PM 1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said: I don't think so. According to the chart I looked at the difference between 21 and 30 is 65 points, which is a high third (or IMO J Cook). yeah...and the chart the dude posted on the last page only shows moving up like 3 spots or so...I would def be interested to know what GM's actually use for reference. Or is it pretty wide spread on that too I wonder. I just don't have a clue. Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted Tuesday at 09:05 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:05 PM 2 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said: yeah...and the chart the dude posted on the last page only shows moving up like 3 spots or so...I would def be interested to know what GM's actually use for reference. Or is it pretty wide spread on that too I wonder. I just don't have a clue. Not only that but our last 2 moves up a few spots required our 4th, and those were to go up 2-3 spots, to go up 9 spots would take a lot more than that. Quote
Lagoon Blues Posted Tuesday at 09:07 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:07 PM (edited) 2 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: Not only that but our last 2 moves up a few spots required our 4th, and those were to go up 2-3 spots, to go up 9 spots would take a lot more than that. Exactly, that would fit the values on the chart from the previous page....I would fully expect going up 10 spots give or take to require one of our 2nds. Edited Tuesday at 09:08 PM by Lagoon Blues Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Tuesday at 09:16 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:16 PM 17 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: I don't think so. According to the chart I looked at the difference between 21 and 30 is 65 points, which is a high third (or IMO J Cook). Cook 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Tuesday at 09:28 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 09:28 PM While I would prefer to stay at 30 or a small trade up for Grant… if we move up to 21ish for Barron…. He seems like an absolute stud. As long as we can still land quality DT’s in Round 2 & 4, I’d be good with it Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Tuesday at 09:34 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 09:34 PM PFF has Barron as their #11th overall prospect The word "versatile" gets thrown around too much with defensive back prospects, but Barron is exactly that. As a natural zone defender with excellent instincts and anticipation, he is a starting-caliber pro at safety, wide cornerback or nickel defender -- sometimes as all three in the same game -- for Cover 3- or quarters-heavy schemes. 1 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted Tuesday at 09:42 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:42 PM 3 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Many say this or something similar, and yet there are so many posters here who are willing to trade 2026 trade picks to trade up this year. Makes no sense to me. Probably in the middle somewhere 🙂 Quote
DJB Posted Tuesday at 09:53 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:53 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, DJB said: “the Buffalo Bills moving up from 30th overall if a cornerback they like starts to come down the board and get in their range. If Texas corner Jahdae Barron gets to the 21st pick in the draft, I could absolutely see the Bills calling and inquiring about moving to 21 from 30. It’s worth noting the Bills have two second-round picks to help them climb up the board if they see an opportunity present itself in the first round.” I think posters are upset at the cost which is fair. I don’t think it’s going to cost us a 2nd to move up that far . But are we happy with the player Bahron ? Has potential but has he shown enough to play outside corner? Especially since we already have a stud nickel corner. Edited Tuesday at 09:53 PM by DJB Quote
The Jokeman Posted Tuesday at 10:02 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:02 PM If we could do like we did last year and move down and get a 3rd I'd be all for it but want our top pick in top 45. As I still like Tyleik Williams as our top pick am starting to see him fall down a few draft boards. Round 2 me be about a starting CB and Edge rusher. A guy like Morrison be a next CB assuming his hip checks out and an edge defender like Bradyn Swindon could be nice end finish the 2nd Round. 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Tuesday at 10:42 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 10:42 PM 39 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: If we could do like we did last year and move down and get a 3rd I'd be all for it but want our top pick in top 45. As I still like Tyleik Williams as our top pick am starting to see him fall down a few draft boards. Round 2 me be about a starting CB and Edge rusher. A guy like Morrison be a next CB assuming his hip checks out and an edge defender like Bradyn Swindon could be nice end finish the 2nd Round. I’ll sign up for Tyleik as our first pick right now. Even better if it’s a trade back 2 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted Tuesday at 11:21 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:21 PM I mentioned this the other day: I simply do not understand the fixation with the ‘missing’ 3rd Round Pick. We have TWO 2nd Rounders! So in essence we already moved up. I guess some people would prefer we trade pick so we can get a 3rd? Not me! 1 1 1 Quote
SectionC3 Posted Tuesday at 11:47 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:47 PM 10 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: I think you’re spot on. I get the feeling that they are a little down on Williams. I like what I see when he plays, but some say he isn’t good in pass coverage. He’s also not in town, as far as I know. FWIW. Quote
Turbo44 Posted Tuesday at 11:58 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:58 PM 35 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I mentioned this the other day: I simply do not understand the fixation with the ‘missing’ 3rd Round Pick. We have TWO 2nd Rounders! So in essence we already moved up. I guess some people would prefer we trade pick so we can get a 3rd? Not me! It delends how the board falls. If Grant, Tyrell, Amos are all available at 30 and we like them all, I have no problem trading down to 34 with the NYG and gaining another 3rd while probably throwing back a 5th. There’s a ton of value in rd 2 and rd 3 this year 2 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted Wednesday at 12:16 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:16 AM 49 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I mentioned this the other day: I simply do not understand the fixation with the ‘missing’ 3rd Round Pick. We have TWO 2nd Rounders! So in essence we already moved up. I guess some people would prefer we trade pick so we can get a 3rd? Not me! This draft has been a bit maligned due to the prevailing belief that there are fewer true 1st Round prospects than usual. The numbers seem to be 12 to 16 players in this tier. That said, there is also a belief that this draft is heavy with Top 60 players... in other words there are more than 60 players worth a 2nd round grade. Thus, the desire for a 3rd Rounder stems from wanting the Bills to be able to draft 4 players who could conceivably be immediate contributors and eventual starters. 2 1 1 Quote
jahnyc Posted Wednesday at 12:16 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:16 AM I don't think most lf us have a fixation with the "missing" 3rd round pick, but there seems to be a sense that there is no way Beane will be patient enough to wait until the fourth round to make another pick after making the second round selections. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted Wednesday at 12:47 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:47 AM 3 minutes ago, Bigvinny said: My wife doesn’t love football in general but I can say without a shadow of a doubt that she’s absolutely with all her soul hates the draft chime 1 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted Wednesday at 12:48 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:48 AM 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: If we could do like we did last year and move down and get a 3rd I'd be all for it but want our top pick in top 45. As I still like Tyleik Williams as our top pick am starting to see him fall down a few draft boards. Round 2 me be about a starting CB and Edge rusher. A guy like Morrison be a next CB assuming his hip checks out and an edge defender like Bradyn Swindon could be nice end finish the 2nd Round. Defense. me like Quote
3rdand12 Posted Wednesday at 12:53 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:53 AM 53 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: It delends how the board falls. If Grant, Tyrell, Amos are all available at 30 and we like them all, I have no problem trading down to 34 with the NYG and gaining another 3rd while probably throwing back a 5th. There’s a ton of value in rd 2 and rd 3 this year Yep sure does, things could change in a heartbeat if you really want a player If those those 3 are at 30 , do they all slip to 34 ? and of course you must have a favorite ? 🙂 Quote
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